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Hi brave PDers,

I was blood-tested for heavy metals and found that the level of Mercury in my blood is two times above the tolerance level, that is 3.78μg/L as compared with 2.00μg/L.

I believe we are all informed about the toxic effects of heavy metals in our health. I looked it up on google and saw that mercury could be responsible not for causing, but for triggering Parkinson's. I know that I can take chemicals -under my doctor's supervision- which bind mercury and expel it from my body

Has anyone faced the same problem? How was it treated, what were the results?

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Greenday profile image
Greenday

You need to eliminate the source of your mercury exposure. Do you have dental amalgams? do you leave in an industrial area? The link between mercury and PD is verified in multiple human studies, for example, the patients exposed to dental amalgam filling were 1.583 times more likely to develop PD afterward compared to their non-exposed counterparts ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl... . NAC may act as a chelating agent to accelerate excretion of the metal ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl....

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christos_k in reply to Greenday

Thanks. It may have been dental amalgams or a vaccine against allergic rhinitis I took for five years, i.e. 2000-2005. I do not remember its substance. I was diagnosed with PD in 2009.

I wonder, Is removing mercury enough to stop PD's progression?

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Greenday in reply to christos_k

While there are some preliminary cell/animal studies which aim to reverse certain gene mutations that cause PD, it is highly unlikely that by eliminating blood toxins it will reverse such mutations, but it might slow the progression of the disease (or not) depending on the level of intoxication. Mind there are serious concerns using chelating agents such as NAC to clean-up mercury intoxication caused by dental amalgams. The best way is to identify and eliminate the source of intoxication. You may take the same test, or better the 24h urine test, some time in the future: if the source of intoxication was the injections or anything that was eliminated in the past, it will show as the levels of mercury coming down; otherwise, it might be derived from the amalgam fillings or any other unidentified source, such as from a seafood diet. Based on some human studies annclinlabsci.org/content/3... , your mercury blood level is in the lower range of mercury intoxication, therefore I cannot tell whether it affects your disease and to what extent. Did the lab where you took the test mention a "tolerance" level for mercury? how did you conclude that 3.78μg/L is double the "tolerance" level? Other labs provide higher normal reference values of blood mercury. mayomedicallaboratories.com...

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christos_k in reply to Greenday

Thanks for your input. In the article you mention I see a reference to a "normal" level of 0-9 ng/mL, which is same as 0-9μg/L, correct?

The lab where I took the test indicates that mercury level must be <2μg/L. So, according to Mayomedical labs my Hg lever is acceptable...

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jujulini in reply to christos_k

no level is normal. but i was told it shouldnt be higher than 4. apparantly, blood tests are the least accurate. 24 hr urine is good. but hair tests are best. if you are having neuro symptoms, i would say that you should remove the source and then chelate (do both of those things properly, so you dont get sicker). read alot about it before you do anything.

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Greenday in reply to christos_k

No level is healthy, when comes to toxins. The quantity of mercury (Hg) found in blood and urine correlates with the degree of toxicity. While anything less than 9ng/ml may not pose an immediate or short-term health hazard, however, any long-term exposure to mercury might be. Some observational studies such as ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl... investigated the correlation between the long-term effects of mercury exposure and PD, but not their causative relationship.

A more accurate interpretation of mercury values might be 1) low exposure 2) mild exposure 2) high exposure

Across 6 human studies, the Mean total blood mercury levels in adults that participated in these studies ranged from 0.58 µg/L to 4.15 µg/L

hqontario.ca/Portals/0/Docu...

Also the following form Labtestonline labtestsonline.org/tests/me...

"An increased blood level suggests a relatively recent exposure to mercury. In general, a blood level greater than 10 mcg/L indicates an unusual level of exposure for someone who does not regularly work with mercury.

In contrast to levels of mercury in the blood, a 24-hour urine sample gives more of an average past history of exposure to metallic or inorganic mercury. Normal urine levels are typically less than 10 mcg/L for someone without risk of occupational exposure. (For information on occupational exposure levels, see the Related Pages tab.)

Levels of mercury in either the blood or urine will not indicate the form or quantity of mercury to which a person was exposed.

An increased level of mercury in hair testing may indicate exposure to increased levels of methyl mercury, but hair samples are rarely used because of issues involving testing standardization, sample contamination, and the fact that hair is subject to many pre-analytical variables (hair exposure to dyes, bleach, shampoo, etc.)."

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MBAnderson in reply to Greenday

Greenday,

probably, a lot of us have amalgam fillings and also take NAC, not to eliminate the mercury, but to promote glutathione. Would you elaborate on what problem this presents us?

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Greenday in reply to MBAnderson

I’ve yet to find any human study in the literature, which provides a reliable proof that NAC exerts a detrimental effect on subjects with dental amalgams. Most of the reasoning against NAC it is based on a hypothesis which has yet to be proved or totally disproved.

The following study may provide a better insight. The study is much more than the few sentences I post. I strongly suggest you read the full study and make your own conclusions.

Longitudinal analysis of the association between removal of dental amalgam, urine mercury and 14 self-reported health symptoms.

ehjournal.biomedcentral.com...

The study included 3 groups

A) group who never had amalgam fillings (never amalgam group)

B) group who had their amalgams removed (treatment group)

C) group who did not have their amalgams removed (positive group).

" All participants in the study received lifestyle counseling and bio-detoxification supplements including: N-Acetyl-Cysteine (NAC), Alpha-Lipoic Acid (ALA) and a high potency multivitamin mineral supplement "

" In this study individuals with dental amalgam fillings were found to have double the measured urine mercury when compared to individuals with no dental amalgam fillings. The combination of amalgam filling removal and bio-detoxification was found to reduce urine mercury levels equivalent to the never amalgam group. "

" We found similar reductions in urine mercury in the treatment and positive amalgam groups. Our results suggest that bio-detoxification reduces urine mercury levels at 85% of the reduction of combination therapy (bio-detoxification and amalgam removal). While there was a greater reduction in the treatment group versus the positive amalgam group, there was not a statistically significant difference between these groups. The near equivalence of bio-detoxification and amalgam removal for reducing urine mercury has been demonstrated in the literature. (Treatment of health complaints attributed to amalgam.: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/183... "

" Our results agree with other studies that have shown that even though amalgam removal initially produces a rise in mercury levels, there is a significant reduction in urine mercury to 60-76% of the initial levels six months later"

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I had all 16 amalgam fillings removed when I was first diagnosed, then did several heavy metal cleanses. The cleanses (sold on Dr. Mercola's website did a very good job, but didn't stop the progression of the pd symptoms for me.

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I'm sorry to hear that...

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silvestrov

Magnesium chloride comes in a liquid and flake form and it may help to remove some of the mercury from your body. The following study applied liquid magnesium to the skin every day and 2 weekly foot baths of participants and there was some evidence of heavy metal removal. It is sort of a 'no-brainer' to use this mineral because magnesium is also good for PD.

betteryou.com/health-matter...

I use magnesium chloride from Swanson (online) because it is cheaper than the brand recommended in the study.

The best study about mercury dental amalgams I have read was done by Bernard Windham and it is comprehensive.

keytoxins.com/hgbiblio-file...

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zanzir

A Scientist Spilled 2 Drops Organic Mercury On Her Hand. This Is What Happened To Her Brain.

youtube.com/watch?v=NJ7M01j...

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jujulini in reply to zanzir

scary............unfortunately this video doesnt mention mercury amalgam fillings. but it reinforced dr andrew cutlers theory for proper chelation, since the woman got worse after starting chelation.......... see my reply to christos-k in this post.

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jujulini

do you have any mercury amalgam fillings in your mouth? if you do - DO NOT detox until youve had them removed properly, or the mercury vapors will go right to your brain. my symptoms started about a week after i had a mercury amalgam filling removed improperly - unable to finger tap (in my toddlers music class), dragging of left foot, unable to swing left arm, extremely slow movements. it looked like i had a stroke. you can read my profile for more details.

when i finally had my mercury level checked, it was 30 (lab said it shouldnt be more than 4!)

i cannot stress enough - DO NOT CHELATE WHILE YOU HAVE MERCURY AMALGAM FILLINGS IN YOUR MOUTH! chelators bind with the mercury and it is then removed from the body. but it cant get it all at once, so what is left is basically stirred up until the next chelator dose. but with the amalgams still in your mouth the overload is so great, the chelator cant keep up, because the levels of mercury are constantly there, so its a losing battle, and the excess goes right to your brain (hence the neuro problems, etc). dmps/dmsa challange tests essentially do the same thing, which is why people feel worse after them. it is better to do a heavy metals test on hair or with a 24 hr urine sample. then get the amalgams removed by a biological dentist that will do them properly (dr huggins method, there is plenty of info online about how this is done).

after that you can chelate. but in order to do it with the least amount of further damage, the method that andrew cutler recommends is the best. that is to take the chelator at regular intervals, every 3-4 hrs, depending on the chelator, around the clock (set alarms, whatever you have to do). the theory is that doses further apart, especially high doses once a day, will stir up the mercury, but wont be able to handle the load, and you will be left with excess mercury floating around. if the chelator is taken around the clock, you will always have a constant level in your system able to handle the mercury.

there is alot of info re andrew cutlers method on line, but i have include one link---

livingnetwork.co.za/chelati...

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christos_k in reply to jujulini

Thanks jujulini (are you Greek? pardon my asking...:) )

I will set an appointment with my doctor (he specializes in nutrition and drugs/supplements correlative action) and go through all those info I gather from you, people. You are very helpful.

Jujulini,I have read controversial theories about the level of toxicity caused by amalgams. I tend to believe is quite low.

A thing that worries me is that in the video it is clear that the biggest part of Hg goes to the lipoid tissue. How can it be removed from there?

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jujulini in reply to christos_k

oh, and btw - im not greek. jujulini is an italian cookie with sesame seeds on the outside. lol

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rebtar in reply to jujulini

I had amalgam fillings removed but still have amalgam in a root canal. Do you know if this also presents a problem?

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jujulini in reply to rebtar

yes, root canals are harmful for other reasons - they harbor bacteria, which then travels thru the body to other organs. its better to have the dead tooth removed, and replaced with an implant or bonded tooth. lots of info online. just one link -

articles.mercola.com/what-i...

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999---666

this may disturb some, but i went to dentist that didn't have chairside water basin and i swallowed some old mercury filling, had to get up and spit in the sink! i think this was deliberate. this is off topic, but I've noticed that the 60's are more a warning of power trippers to come than anything else. as soon as they get a position of responsibility, from postal worker to professional here in separatist Quebec, they think it's a privilege to get away with murder. a blood sport. they seem to operate on premise that whatever you can't prove won't hurt them. gives them upper hand over you. nuf said, but times are sick.

trudeau just apologized to Ukrainian Canadians. and i expect their self-esteem to burgeon.

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jujulini in reply to 999---666

i had swallowed some filling too, and i was concerned. but apparantly its the mercury vapor that is most harmful. not really much consolation........

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jujulini

i dont believe its low. it accumulates over time - every time you chew, brush your teeth, get your teeth cleaned. and anybody not born in the past couple decades was exposed to broken thermometers - i was a nurses aide in the 70's, and sometimes when we would clean the thermometers, we would drop the whole tray of them, and then play with the mercury. i have a friend who remembers a teacher in 1st grade, passing out balls of mercury to the students! we put mercurichrome on our cuts, and on top of that - all the vaccines. so, even if the exposure from the amalgams is low, it could be the final straw. it was for me. i developed neuro symptoms without a week of having an amalgam filling removed improperly.

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Kia17

Jujulini

I removed all my amalgams (3) a couple of months ago.

What is the best way to check the body for heavy metals especially Mercury?

What is the best way to chelate ?

Many thanks

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jujulini in reply to Kia17

kia17 - see my other reply on this post.

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Kia17 in reply to jujulini

Thank you

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KERRINGTON

Every vitamin that we take has a acceptable level of heavy metals, but I often wonder if after adding up the numbers x 10 + supplements each day, 365 days a year over 35 years....if that was the cause of my pd.

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999---666

i didn't know that. thanks. whyfor the addition of heavy metals, where it come from. natural source vits don't contain heavy metals?

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jujulini in reply to 999---666

lead is also in most mainstream brand make-up, especially lipsticks. and of course, old house/vintage furniture paints. old windows are worse because they create paint dust when moved up and down. and old dishes, like fiesta-ware, especially the reds.

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christos_k

Well, finally I went to see my doctor. He said there are certain chelators that can be used without having the amalgam fillings removed, but they have side effects: they cause the level of copper to fall drastically and they effect the bones myelin, where the blood is produced. So, he prescribed me probiotics for gut and liver cleansing and tetoxing and told me to go back in three months to start the chelating procedure.

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jujulini in reply to christos_k

that just doesnt make any sense. i would seriously consider getting a second opinion. or better yet, yourself, is the better second opinion.... read, read, read and research on the internet. thats where i found all the information that saved my life. we all need to trust our instincts, and use our common sense, and learn from other peoples experiences. most doctors know/or want to know little about alternative treatments. and i have found they know even less about the effects of mercury amalgams.

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christos_k in reply to jujulini

Thanks. I don't know if it's my instinct, but somehow I got the idea that PD has come into my life to awaken me. Since my diagnosis, 9 years ago, I have gone through major changes in life. Next bet is to treat my illness in a natural manner, i.e. nutrition, body exercising, meditation and opening my heart to other people.

I trust the particular physician, but I can see your point. I'll do my research. ;)

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