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John Pepper is half way through his UK speaking tour. I have been lucky enough to have John and his wife stay with me for four days. Two mornings we walked together, he shouting 'swing those arms' and 'heel, heel' at me! He walked a little slower than his normal pace so I could keep up, but we still walked 3 miles in under 50 minutes! His two speaking events this week each attracted 100 people who all left excited and inspired. What has struck me most about this man? For him Parkinson's is not an excuse. He works very long days, has endless energy, has determinedly worked to lessen or overcome every Parkinson's challenge he has faced and works tirelessly to help others do the same. He is a very warm and generous man. I will remember my time spent in his company for a very long time to come.

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thank you for the news and for the photo

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Madzy

I am looking forward to his visit in Amsterdam!!! Thanks for your comment

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BillDavid

Thanks for the Post, John is an inspiration for so many.

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nourilo

Wish I could be there! Hope to meet him someday!😘👍

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Joanne_Joyce

This is very inspiring. John continues to encourage us. Glad you had the opportunity to join him on his walks.

Great to see anyone promoting good life habits. I am not familiar with John Pepper but he sounds to me he is on the right track. I have found that Crossfit Which I do 5 times a week greatly increases my up times and i require less meds at least half of what the Dr. RX. I am 61 9 years With PD and am better now than 6 years ago. All Dr. should promote exercise at first to relieve symptoms before Rx drugs. Exercise helps at any stage. But it has to be exercise that pushes to your max not just take a slow 1 mile walk

CrossFit is constantly varied, functional movements executed at high intensity. Ok, now that you are saying “What the *@$&”, let’s break that statement down. A functional movement is a movement that incorporates multiple joints and can move a large amount of weight over great distances in a short amount of time. By constantly varied we mean that we do not repeat specific movements regularly as part of the main workout. High intensity means that we do these movements as fast as possible as part of a timed work out in order to move as much weight over a long distance in as short amount of time as possible. Why do we do things this way in CrossFit? Well, we are trying to increase your power output (Power= (Weight*Distance)/Time) across broad, time and modal domains. CrossFit is designed for this singular purpose. We want to turn each and everyone of our athletes into a race horse, not a show horse, aesthetics are purely a by-product. For more information click here.

Fitness is most easily described through the 10 general physical skills: cardiovascular/respiratory endurance, stamina, strength, flexibility, power, agility, speed, coordination, balance, and accuracy. In CrossFit, we believe that you are only as fit as you are competent in each of those skills, which requires a wide variety of exercises and workouts. This type of fitness breeds general physical preparedness, which simply means that you are not a master of one skill, but are prepared for all of them. Fitness also includes eating healthy, which is as simple as eating lean meats, fruits and vegetables, and some nuts. Being fit is not merely being healthy, it is a higher standard and harder to achieve.

crossfitfch.com/blog

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Hikoi in reply to

Bailey,

John has posted frequently on this forum over the past few years. He says the neurologist describes his Parkinson's as non idiopathic and his tremor as essential tremor with no resting tremor.

He is a keen advocate of fast walking to reverse PD symptoms, you can search his posts for an explanation.

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Ray_rich44 in reply to

John's web site is reversingparkinsons.com and it's very informative.

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Dap1948 in reply to

I read your list of the purpose and benefits of exercise with interest, but you have left out the effect on the brain. Forced exercise produces Glial derived neurotrophic factors (GDNF) which work to heal damaged neurons. The exercise must last 45-60 minutes and be every other day. It must be as full on as you can make It! Email me if you want more info on this d_m_bryan@hotmail.com. The medical profession has known about GDNF for twenty years or more but have omitted to tell us about it, or that forced exercise produces it. The drug companies are producing and trialling an artificial GDNF which needs a catheter in the brain and an abdominal pump to administer it!

John Pepper's book 'Reversing Parkinson's Disease'

Norman Doidge's book 'The Brains way of Healing' devotes a chapter to John Pepper.

I hope this is of interest to you

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I believe that promoting exercise as a cure all is like Dr. using only meds. I have been on several different meds and on too much and have a lot of reactions to them. The problem was when i told my Dr. he would increase them. I began to control my meds as I needed them. If I took no meds I could not function so I slowly increased them to find the smallest dose with daily exercise that i needed. This works for me.

Not all Pd. people are able to do the exercise required to have the most effect for them.

So in most things there is not a cure all. Best to keep our options open as well as our minds. Just keep on posting and keep talking to as many people who will listen the more we push the more we will achieve.

Thanks Bailey

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hanifab23

Please tell me what else did you learn from him

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Dap1948 in reply to hanifab23

I think as the dust settles after his visit I will see things clearer. For now I will say I learnt never to use Parkinson's as an excuse for not doing something. He is a very determined man. He is very cross that the medical profession haven't told us about the benefits of GDNF and that fast walking produces it. He also gets cross with the medical profession when he sees people over medicated and displaying dyskinesia. John clearly still has Parkinson's. He found it difficult to hold his notes, he was shaking so badly, but then he was very nervous and very emotional. Yet he lives a normal life and he'll be 81 next month! A couple of mornings, after our walk, he cooked me a huge fry up, turning fiddly mushrooms over in the frying pan etc. (We of course cooked in coconut oil!) And the major thing - he is no longer on medication. He also stood for two hours during his presentation.

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Hikoi in reply to Dap1948

I have never seen research to support fast walking as producing GDNF, perhaps there is but I doubt it would just be for walking, other exercise too. G D NF had not been through trials 4 years ago. It failed the last trial. I think it unfair to say the medical profession hasnt told us when it is still not proven.

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cunningkelvin

Great to hear this. Where is John delivering his talks exactly?

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Dap1948 in reply to cunningkelvin

London this week, Amsterdam next. A future tour is planned for USA and Australia if he can raise the money.

See life.indiegogo.com hunt for 'Reversing Parkinson's' to donate. John is not a rich man. We raised enough money here to pay his airfares.

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Dap1948

There is a lot of research on forced exercise. Email me on d_m_bryan@hotmail.com and I will attach it all!

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Hil101

Sadly, we saw this after the event. Would love to have seen John Pepper. Has he gone back to SA now or is he still in Europe? Please can you tell me what you think is the best way to pick up his technique apart from reading Norman Doidge's excellent book? Thanks for posting this. Hilary

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Dap1948 in reply to Hil101

He is back in SA now. I suggest reading his book available from reverseparkinsons.net

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Hil101

Sorry, just seen your other post with email. Thanks, will follow up! Hilary

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FergusonJR

I’ve been power walking three times each week for 55-60 minutes each time since diagnosis four months ago. In the last three weeks there is a sore tendon at my top groin area on leg that just aches as I try to sleep. Have I hurt myself exercising for PD? I’m male, only 56 and in pretty decent condition...

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FergusonJR

It’s the tendon that lifts the leg at the front of crotch.

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Erniediaz1018

Excellent pic and report. Thank you.

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JohnPepper

Thanks Daphne.

I have never noticed these Related Posts, I wish I had. I feel very down right now because of the efforts of other people to stop other Pd sufferers believing that I do have Pd. The only reason I can think of is that they belong to the medical world and they see me as a threat to their sales. That is such a pity because they are stopping others from improving the quality of their lives!

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These kinds of conspiracy theories ("the only people who question my claims belong to the medical world and have a financial incentive to do so") dont do you any favours john.

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Does it hurt if people know why you go out of your way to make people believe I don't have Pd?

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Hurt your credibility? I doubt it.

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WinnieThePoo in reply to JohnPepper

John - you published that your neurologist, after examining you, concluded as his diagnosis that you do not have idiopathic parkinsons disease. That seems a pretty good starting point

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JohnPepper in reply to WinnieThePoo

That was the term I think he used when I asked him what type of tremor I have!

That was thirteen years after I was diagnosed and twelve years after the next neurologist took over the treatment of PD.

That was confirmed again by a third neurologist when we met with Dr Norman Doidge in 2013.

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Unless you have parkinsons from a known cause (genetic, drug induced parkinsonism) a neurologist telling you that you dont have IPD is a neuroligist telling you that you dont have PD.

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Dap1948 in reply to JohnPepper

Just feel grateful, John, that you have done as well as you have. It is very hard to say with confidence that a or b is the absolute reason why you have been so fortunate. I know from reading people's comments here that something which helped one person may not help another. Exercise, and walking specifically, helps people but many have found that even following your instructions, it hasn’t slowed down their PD progression. It is natural to want to share what one thinks has worked for oneself so that you can help cure all, but this 'disease' isn’t that clearcut. I’m sure your work encouraging people to walk has done a lot of good, but 'conspiracy theories'....?

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JohnPepper in reply to Dap1948

Hi Dap1498. I have never been under any misconception about being able to help everybody. I hope that I can help 25% of patients at best. Among the people I have worked with here in SA, only about a quarter of them are still at the stage where they could even consider do fast walking, then among those, many of them were not prepared to commit to walking every second day, thinking they could walk for longer, on fewer days. Some ran, instead of walking, others were not prepared to walk as fast as they were capable of doing. But the few who did it properly have done well.There is another aspect of what I do. I teach patients how to walk properly. That means that even patients who are already in wheelchairs and walkers have been able to immediately walk, unaided and without anything to stop them from falling. The problem comes in when they lose confidence and are not sure how they did it. I am only one man and cannot be in several places at the same time, so they lose the ability to walk unaided.

If on;y some physiotherapists would watch what I do and start teaching their patients and see that they keep practicing it until they are comfortable doing it.

I have also found ways to eat and drink without spilling the contents, and other ways of dealing with other symptoms, but without the support of the medical profession it will all be lost, forever!

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"Among the people I have worked with here in SA, only about a quarter of them are still at the stage where they could even consider do fast walking"

So 75% of the people you have worked with in SA are no longer in a condition where they can even consider fast walking?

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When I attend Support Group meetings I don't expect more than 25% of the people to be capable of doing the fast walking, but the other 25% are generally capable, but that does not mean they are willing. It is the residue that I work with, which still amounts to a lot of people.

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ddmagee1

Very inspiring! Using Parkinson’s as an excuse, can sometimes be self-defeating. Of course, each PWP handles coping with it, differently, in their own way. Personally, I tend to accentuate positive things, I am able to do, and adjust, the best I can, with some of the deficits, that I have, and not dwell on what I have lost, or am losing. I very seldom complain to anybody about living, and dealing with PD. I figure, nobody wants to hear it anyway. I’ll ask questions, in this forum, and discuss difficulties, with others, who have PD, and that has benefited me greatly, because, actually, the ones who best understand, and support my dealing with PD, are those who have PD, too! So, thanks to all, within this forum/blog, who have been so helpful, and understanding!

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