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Does anyone else find one of the difficulties of dumping is being in two places at once? Lying down because you feel faint and need to sleep, and sitting on the loo at the same time?

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I think the needs of the loo come first, but you might try keeping a packet of dextrosol nearby to try and mitigate the immediate effects of the insulin spikes that are probably the cause of your feeling so faint.

The longer term issue is to try and smooth out the spikes of insulin / sugar as far as you can by means of diet.

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lonestray

I've found I get dumping syndrome when I eat too much. Over time it has faded and now after more than five years I've begun to feel better. Must check out dextrosol. At present I'm still taking mint humbugs. Must say I'm also running better of late.

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haward

Hi Patchworker

Usually I get very tired, crash out for around 20 minutes, then either I am OK and feel fine or, more rarely now, I head for the dumping ground.

Haward

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brucemillar

I think Alan hits the nail on the head here. Separating true dumping from Hypo's is/was part of my problem.

I was confusing them both into one. I get hypo's that are hypo's and have no dumping associated. By the same token I get dumping that has no hypo associated. I am one year post op now and the dumping has improved greatly by making changes to my diet and eating times and amounts. In fact it is fairly rare to the point that I am able to commute to and from work on the train.

My hypo's are more of a concern now and I have a post on here about my progress there.

God luck to you.

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david001

Hi patchworker

I still get dumping even after 12 years postop but over the years the occurences tend to be shorter - now 30mins or less. Sweating, tiredness and feeling faint. As you do, lying down during this period does the trick. This dumping is 'early dumping' when the sugars are hitting your system before the insulin has entered the bloodstream. Sugary desserts, alcohol etc are great contributors. Don't confuse with 'late dumping' when you have too much insulin in the blood stream and is dealt with by dextrasol.

Not sure how the 'loo' element connects other than you will also find that you might be allergic to some food stuffs that you could normally have toleratedin the past. These foods will be going straight to your intestines before having had time to be digested by the stomach (or what is left of it)

Good idea would be to make a diary and see how different foods affect you. The affects will hopefully lessen over time as you get used to your new system

Hope this helps

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gutlesswonder

You are 5-6 years post-op and should not be suffering so much.

There are two distinct manifestations of dumping --(1) 'early' and (2) 'late'.

There is no accepted medical opinion as to what 'early' is and what causes it; many theories have been advanced.

Things are less controversial and more clear-cut when it comes to 'late'

Hence it is absolutely vital to distinguish which one afflicts you (it could be both)

The principal determinant is time:

Do your symptoms start in the first hour after eating or in the second or third hour after eating?

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juliesharp

I get this.

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patchworker

Sorry everyone, I will reply later. Feeling rotten. Seeing Doc in the morning.

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patchworker

Hi everyone, I'm just recovering, with the aid of antibiotics, from a very nasty chest infection, caused by reflux when my head slipped off my pillows on Friday night. That hasn't happened for a long time, over a year, but as you all know, its frightening when it does.

Dumping happens less often now too I think I must have early and late dumping, but as I tend to graze on food rather than have separate meals, it's often not possible to know if it's the apple I've just eaten or the sandwich I ate 2 hours ago that caused it. But as I said, it doesn't happen so often now.

But the main problem is, I need the loo over and over again, when I just want to sleep it off. ( I don't know how to spell diarhea )

It seems that dumping is slightly different for all of us. I get tummy ache, sweating, faintness, a need to lie down, flickering in front of my eyes. I have tried all the suggestions to avoid it, but it still happens, just less often.

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