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Water - who is up for an experiment?

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I've recently been doing a lot of reading on water therapy. It's a pretty simple protocol. Upon waking you drink 1.5 L of pure water, then you don't eat for at least 45 min after. Also, you're not supposed to drink 1-2 hours after you eat or while eating. Different protocols suggest different amounts throughout the day but most suggest an additional 1.5 L or more minimum. I personally am drinking up to 5-6 L as I do a lot of exercise. I think I've been mildly dehydrated for years and I'm seeing some nice changes already, one of them being that my chronic sinus congestion has all of a sudden cleared up within days.

Then reason I wanted to post this, is because since I've been on this forum I've heard so many people complain of constipation, gas, head fog, sleep problems, and of course complaints of depression are pretty common as well. I was thinking that this water therapy protocol might help some folks. Worth a try? Any guinea pigs out there who have some problems and might want to try it? It's free of course and it just makes so much sense.

Many articles out there... here is just one... Water Therapy

How much water do you drink a day?

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I'll have a look at the article and I may just be a guinea pig one I get back from my weekend away :-)

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I'm terrible, I hardly drink any water. Mostly I drink tea and coffee. I can't even imagine glugging down 1.5 litres when I get up in the morning.

I should try and drink more than I do though.

Hey, at least I don't smoke :D Drink next to no alcohol either, so hopfully that's a plus in my healthy column :D :D

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Drinking more water makes you look younger, takes wrinkles away, clears skin, plus balances hormones.... that's enough to motivate me to do extra trips to the loo ;)

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The other bonus is the extra exercise that I'll get by running to the loo 4 times as much! I can't see a down side to this so far! :D

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The other bonus is the extra exercise that I'll get by running to the loo 4 times as much! I can't see a down side to this so far! :D

Indeed :) To be honest though, I've not noticed that many more frequent trips.. drinking water helps clean toxins out, that's something that's definitely important for an ex smoker.. and only water can do that most efficiently. Anyways, was really hoping some would volunteer to give this a go.... isn't there always someone constipated on this forum?!!! No need to be shy about it, this is in the spirit of science after all ;)

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I hope you don't mind me being the dissenting voice Bella, but I have to say, TBH, I'm highly suspicious about the scientific basis for 'detoxing'.

Of course, if you've been drinking alcohol/smoking/eating high fat high sugar foods, then stopping these and replacing them with fresh foods and lots of water will have a beneficial effect on your health and well being.

However, the concept of actually removing toxins from your body with these kinds of fixes doesn't have much basis in fact. If there's something in the system that the body perceives as toxic, the liver gets rid of it (or the kidneys, if it's water soluble). If it's fat soluble it is stored in the body's fat reserves and you could drink the Thames dry and not shift it. There's plenty of scientific research out there which, in essence, debunks detox in all its forms as a myth.

So yeah, water's great, you need it, but take these promises of its miraculous health giving properties with a pinch of salt!! I found this online

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7521137...

Which might be worth bearing in mind.

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I dont want to be a party pooper here, but anyone considering this should read about water intoxication first and consult with their doc en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water...

Roosa.

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austinlegro11 Years Smoke Free

Sadly if there's one thing science has given us it's bad science. :(

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I dont want to be a party pooper here, but anyone considering this should read about water intoxication first and consult with their doc en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water...

Roosa.

Sigh... somehow I new someone would post this. I've read about water intoxication. 1.5 L in the morning is hardly gonna kill anyone.

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I hope you don't mind me being the dissenting voice Bella, but I have to say, TBH, I'm highly suspicious about the scientific basis for 'detoxing'.

Of course, if you've been drinking alcohol/smoking/eating high fat high sugar foods, then stopping these and replacing them with fresh foods and lots of water will have a beneficial effect on your health and well being.

However, the concept of actually removing toxins from your body with these kinds of fixes doesn't have much basis in fact. If there's something in the system that the body perceives as toxic, the liver gets rid of it (or the kidneys, if it's water soluble). If it's fat soluble it is stored in the body's fat reserves and you could drink the Thames dry and not shift it. There's plenty of scientific research out there which, in essence, debunks detox in all its forms as a myth.

So yeah, water's great, you need it, but take these promises of its miraculous health giving properties with a pinch of salt!! I found this online

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7521137...

Which might be worth bearing in mind.

I'm not talking about miracles Hels, I'm talking about giving your body enough water to do it's job properly. Toxins come into the body, and they have to come out... the body does an excellent job at this via liver, kidney, etc.... but it needs water to do so. Our bodies are mostly made of water. Not going to go into the physiology of it..... is it not a given that a glass of water instead of a sugary drink or tea/coffee that contains caffeine and actually needs to be cleared by the body would be way more beneficial? Funny how suggesting to drink 1.5 L of water meet resistance or start a debate....

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Sadly if there's one thing science has given us it's bad science. :(

Such a crazy statement from a usually sensible man.....

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Party pooper no. Overly dramatic yes.

Did you read that article before you posted it. They are talking about drinking excessive amounts and gave water drinking competitions as an example.

They also say that healthy kidneys are able to excrete approximately 1 litre of fluid water (0.26 gallons) per hour.

Im no doctor, but this made me wonder. Sorry for over dramatising if thats how people see it.

Roosa.

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I'm not talking about miracles Hels, I'm talking about giving your body enough water to do it's job properly. Toxins come into the body, and they have to come out... the body does an excellent job at this via liver, kidney, etc.... but it needs water to do so. Our bodies are mostly made of water. Not going to go into the physiology of it..... is it not a given that a glass of water instead of a sugary drink or tea/coffee that contains caffeine and actually needs to be cleared by the body would be way more beneficial? Funny how suggesting to drink 1.5 L of water meet resistance or start a debate....

Bella - I hope you don't think I was pointlessly trying to stomp on your idea. I wasn't trying to suggest that drinking water was bad for you, or indeed that it wasn't good for you. I had thought my post made that pretty clear.

My mentioning of miracles came in response to the link you posted, which suggested that this regime could do everything from curing epilepsy to cancer. Hence my attempt to give another point of view.

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I definitely see the plus points of drinking water and keeping yourself hydrated, I drink too much in the way of tea and coffee so definitely need to increase my water intake. However what I don't feel is necessary is to drink 1.5l first thing, wait 45 mins before I eat or not drink while eating. I don't feel that I could force that down in the morning and I certainly don't have the luxury of that kind of time in the morning, my approach is to drink 2-3 litres per day at a steady pace, which to me is much more sensible and less 'gimmicky'

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Indeed :) To be honest though, I've not noticed that many more frequent trips.. drinking water helps clean toxins out, that's something that's definitely important for an ex smoker.. and only water can do that most efficiently. Anyways, was really hoping some would volunteer to give this a go.... isn't there always someone constipated on this forum?!!! No need to be shy about it, this is in the spirit of science after all ;)

I dont get constipated but im on my 3rd day of 1.5l of water.:D.....................im with you and i feel great now what is there to lose.

Cheers for this :D

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austinlegro11 Years Smoke Free

Such a crazy statement from a usually sensible man.....

Sensible gets boring sometimes. :p

Homoeostasis is a marvellous tool in our armoury.

If you're dehydrated then you need to up your intake.

If you're not then the water is just another of the 'toxins' that your body needs to be rid of.

Years of winkling out no smoking scientific junk unfortunately has given my BS detectors a fine honing and I'd barely started your linked article before they were buzzing away like mad.

...An especially important result of this treatment is that it cleanses the colon, which makes the body much more able to absorb nutrients from food.

I'd love to hear from the doctors amongst us but I think the only way to cleanse a colon with water is to use a hose or maybe a stout bottle brush and when it's all sparkly clean its ability to absorb nutrients from food is somewhat limited.

A bit of research on Dr. Fereydoon Batmanghelidj and my detectors just refuse to play any more.

At least it's a cheap therapy. You haven't got to buy special water. :D

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