amino acids

[SHARONHELL]

with not eating meat or dairy, whats the best way to get the amino acids, fruits? beans?

not a big bean person

[Bassetmommer NKF Ambassador]

HI Sharon,

Why are you worried about amino acids. I know there is a push for people who eat less meat to take them, but it is not good for the kidney. I would speak to your doctor or a renal dietician first before taking a supplement or increasing the intake of amino acids. It is protein, which you want to limit.

"In our experiments, we address the question of which amino acids, or groups of amino acids, might affect the progression of renal disease.Taken together, these results suggest that high levels of BCAAs contained in the diet have a deleterious effect on the progression of CKD." fasebj.org/doi/abs/10.1096/...

I had to look up deleterious.... it mean harmful.....

[SHARONHELL in reply to Bassetmommer]

I would not take supplements, I am wondering which foods have amino acids in them, suggestions?

[orangecity41 NKF Ambassador in reply to Bassetmommer]

Thanks for good explanation Bassettmommer. My renal diet lists amounts of foods, so on this balanced diet am able to get enough amino acid.

[Bet117 NKF Ambassador in reply to Bassetmommer]

Great research and response Bassetmommer!

Best way to put a healthy diet together is to see a renal dietician and discussion with your doctor!

[lowraind]

That may be a good question to ask people at Natural Kidney Journey. They are quite radical regarding food, but at the same time, they do seem to get good results. I am not ready to be quite that radical.

[steve680]

There's a book titled "Coping with Kidney Disease: A 12-Step Treatment Program to Help You Avoid Dialysis" by Dr. Mackenzie Walser. He discusses a "very low protein" diet to keep people off dialysis for as long as possible. Amino acid supplements are used to replace most protein. His main theory is that protein is not good for people with damaged kidneys. The details are in the book. There are reviews on Amazon of this book that claim get success using the information to improve their GFR. The book was written by a Nephrologist who did studies at John Hopkins on the optimal renal diet; has has since passed away.

[Hidden in reply to steve680]

Thanks. I shall look this book up on Amazon. Meanwhile, don't forget the FREE 2-hour "Kidney Smart" seminars sponsored by the DaVita Corporation (if they have dialysis units in your market). No, I am not a shareholder in this company!

[RonaldoResuelto in reply to steve680]

Lee Hull, a former patient of Dr. Walser at John Hopkins, wrote a book titled "Stopping Kidney Disease" in which he documents his 28 year personal journey since kidney disease diagnosis. The book is thorough, current, and replete with charts, tables, and references which will answer your questions regarding proteins, renal acid, phosphorus, supplements, and multiple other concerns. In the last two months, following his recommendations, I have seen my GFR go from 53 to 63. I also found this reference useful

revistanefrologia.com/en-ta...

I downloaded it as a pdf file.

[SHARONHELL in reply to RonaldoResuelto]

I'm reading it, 1 month no meat or dairy my gfr went from 44 to 49

[RonaldoResuelto in reply to SHARONHELL]

Outstanding! Onward and upward. I don't know how much gfr increase we can reasonably expect, but I am certainly more hopeful than I was two months ago.