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First off, I'm not trying to panic anyone here. Quite the opposite: get a plan B lined up, and it will take away some of those "what if...?" fears that keep you awake at night, because you know you'll be fine in the worst case.

Nor is this a lock-the-doors-and-buy-a-shotgun post. The Zombie Apocalypse probably isn't here. Up to a point, European governments have sufficient resilience and resourcefulness to ride out a major crisis and keep the basic services going, even if they're making it up as they go along.

I'm just offering a few simple ideas based on my experience in the less salubrious parts of the globe, where things are deliberately set up to go real bad, real quick (because fear keeps the plebs in their place). These are things you can amuse yourself with instead of going crazy with boredom while you're stuck in the house, and they'll all be useful even if the worst never happens, especially if you have some outdoorsy hobbies.

1) Arrange potable water. Sawyer, HydroBlu, and a few other companies make "emergency" water filters. These are very effective - you can take almost anything, filter it, and drink it without risk - and they don't cost much.

2) Arrange a water supply. Despite Britain's reputation as a rainy country, annual precipitation is only 800-900mm (400mm is considered 'arid'). You need to collect water from your roof. Maybe you already do, but if you don't, find a big container and set it up to collect roof gutter runoff. If you're handy with DIY, you can set up a "first flush" system on your downspout, but it's not critical. Even if you never have to drink it or bathe in it, you can use roof water for the plants.

3) Grow food. You should still be able to get seeds from the Internet. It's hard to recommend ideal plants for beginners because some areas of the country are unsuitable for certain crops, but I suggest trying salad vegetables, crucifers (cabbage family - including turnips/swedes), "walking" or "bunching" onions, beans (not broad beans), and garlic. All of these are easy to grow and take up little (horizontal) space. If you're growing in pots, leaf veg and carrots are a good bet - you can buy seed for stubby carrots that don't need much depth.

4) Make food. Anyone can make ham, yoghurt, and pickles; they're incredibly easy and a lot of fun. They'll also be of superior quality compared to supermarket rubbish.

5) If you have £1000 to spare, get yourself set up with solar power. This is not difficult if you or someone you know has a bit of competence with electrics. You need solar panels (£500), a controller (£150), batteries (£200), and an inverter (£100). All these bits come with instructions, and there's not much to it except connecting one thing to the other thing. I'm an electronics engineer, so possibly I'm underestimating the challenge here, but a bit of research may reassure you. You can just install the panel(s) on your lawn - no need to put them up on the roof, as long as they're not shaded. As well as running a freezer (see below) you can also set up a separate lighting circuit. I do not recommend installing an automatic transfer switch, or interfering with your house mains wiring in any way, unless you're a qualified electrician. Keep the backup separate.

6) Most people prep with dried and tinned food. This is a mistake - you could end up eating a lot of stodge, and most likely unappetizing stodge. Run your freezer off solar, and stock it up with meat, sausages, butter, UHT milk, and cheese. A freezer and solar panels justify each other. A modern chest freezer uses about 1kWh/day, so size your system for that: 48V (4pcs x 12v 30-40Ah) lead-acid batteries, 3 or 4pcs 150W panels (60V nominal at maximum power point), 500-1000W inverter. If possible, buy a spare 24V controller and inverter just in case some of your panels and/or batteries fail. Use a timer switch to switch off the freezer during the night (it will still hold its temperature if it's full) to preserve battery lifetime.

7) Buy a rocket stove. If things get so bad that the water supply stops, power and gas will be off too. Some people like to build these stoves in the backyard, but in my opinion it's not worth the effort when you can buy a nice one (I have an EcoZoom) for £100 or so. Obviously, make sure you have a good supply of wood, too - they're efficient, but they burn surprisingly fast. If the Zombie Apocalypse doesn't come, they're great fun for camping and daytrips.

8) Perhaps the most important thing of all: get healthy. The COVID-19 epidemic is making it abundantly clear that people who are overweight, (pre)diabetic and have heart disease are at great risk, and these issues are all rooted in poor diet: far too much bread, pasta, rice and sweets, and far too little fresh veg and dietary fat. Now is the time to get this sorted.

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Stoozie profile image
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I am not sure if, like Delia, you are able to create a 'run' on a product, but Sawyer and hydroblu are sold out at Amazon. (Ironic that a Toad can clear the shelves of a means of un-stagnating water!)

Does anyone know of any other means of getting these?

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TheAwfulToadVisitor in reply to Stoozie

Doesn't surprise me ... I noticed EcoZoom are sold out too.

I'm sure they'll get production back up to speed ... they'd be daft to miss an opportunity like this!

Carrots are one of the most difficult vegetables to grow in the UK because of the pests here. Don’t try. Courgettes are easy though...

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Nobody likes courgettes though :)

Carrots are weird. I've had occasional success with them, but they seem to be very picky about the soil. Never been bothered by pests - they just don't grow very big.

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IndigoBlue61 in reply to TheAwfulToad

Wash your mouth out with soap!!! How can you not like courgettes 😂🤪🤣

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Carrot fly is the thing that stops them growing very big - in the uk anyway...

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Carrot fly usually causes visible damage, no? My carrots tasted OK and didn't seem to have anything wrong with them. Just undersized (about 2" long ... and you lot can stop sniggering at the back there).

Courgettes are OK in small doses. It's when you get 150 of them at once they can get a bit tiresome :)

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ChubbieChopsVisitor in reply to TheAwfulToad

I like them fried in garlic butter 😋

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Yep, carrots like a sandy soil, I'm on heavy clay!

Sorry not to be more positive but no freezers available now either.

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Good grief!!!!

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I think it’s a good idea to be prepared although I won’t go as far as the solar panels this week 😊I have been thinking along similar lines but mainly on food substitutes for when common foods become unavailable. Mine are ghee instead of butter, a mushroom growing kit (arrives today), Greek yoghurt making kit and cheese-making kit, pea milk for normal milk, soya cream for cream and aquafaba for eggs. If the water goes (we need electricity for it to run) we can collect spring water from our community reservoir. A wood-burning stove for heat but only an outdoor fire for cooking 😟

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andyswarbs

Generally a very well thought out contribution. But as TheAwfulToad knows we are diametrically at odds on his advice regarding fats. He recommeneds a high fat diet based on dead animals. As a vegan with strong health interests I advise that grains, legumes whether dried or cans are very healthful.

Beans & pulses require no energy to store, whether in cans or dried. They are filling and satisfying and form part of a healthy weight loss lifestyle. Also they are never boring, just add flavouring to suit your personal taste. So make sure you have plenty of herbs and spices stocked up as well.

Dried legumes can also be sprouted bringing, giving not just extra food content but some of the most fabulous nutrition on the planet!

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I wouldn't discourage anyone from buying those things if they normally eat them and enjoy them. But I think it's a bad idea to advise people (as some prepper guides do) to stockpile things they don't really like, and I wouldn't recommend relying on canned/dried goods exclusively.

Anyway, it shouldn't be an either-or; ideally, you need a bit of everything. To be clear, I wasn't suggesting people should attempt to survive on meat, or rely on the freezer exclusively. That would be inefficient, unhealthy, and risky.

Totally agree about herbs and spices. Many of these are very easy to grow. Thyme, mint and rosemary are perennials. Also: iodized salt. If you're not eating animal products, a salt- or iodine-deficient diet is a real possibility.

My main point with the freezer-full-of-meat thing is this:

1) There are several people here who are diabetic or prediabetic. This is no longer a navel-gazing debate: these people are at imminent risk of life-threatening complications if they catch COVID-19. Reversing their condition is critical not just from a personal point of view, but to reduce the carnage that our healthcare workers have to deal with.

2) Meat + fat is a very dense source of healthy calories. 100kg of meat represents 250,000kCal, or about a year's supply of food for two people with the addition of beans, homegrown veg, etc. The average domestic chest freezer will accommodate that amount (for reference, a whole pig, dressed, cut, and packaged, is about 60kg and costs about £400).

But we're on the same page regarding veg ... hence my exhortation to get out there in the garden and plant some.

At the risk of restarting the carbs debate, if this all goes downhill we'll be seeing a lot less starch and factory-farmed meat in the shops: if the government can't subsidize them, the producers will exit that business in droves. Green veg, possibly with a greater range than we've seen so far, will be the order of the day, as farmers switch over to products that are more profitable. More free-range meat, too, I suspect.

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SofaJockey

I just did step #8, (exercise and low carb) otherwise I have a spare pack of toilet rolls and I think I'm good. 😄

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gonnadoitnow

Hey, you can freeze normal milk, not just that long lasting stuff that I wouldn't touch anyway! :)

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TheAwfulToadVisitor in reply to gonnadoitnow

Sure. I just find that normal milk develops a slightly weird "grainy" texture when defrosted; UHT, less so, and you don't have to worry if it accidentally defrosts completely.

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andyswarbs in reply to gonnadoitnow

You can also make your own continuous supply of fresh milk. Lots of online recipes. Nothing need be wasted and some recipes give ideas for any pulp. Best of all you can alter the recipes to suit your own taste.

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gonnadoitnow

And, apparently, you can freeze eggs. (Not in the shell, I'm guessing!) :)

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Portlandprincess

I'm taking no. 8 to heart...pun now written has to be intended.

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