What,s best

[Smiffyliz]

When I signed up I read the initial nhs guide lines and looked at the eat healthy plate where majority of calories come from grains pulses and fruit and veg with small amounts of dairy and animal protein. They also recommend low fat dairy. I can’t tolerate much milk and eat small amounts of full fat cheese but tend to go for low natural Greek yogurt

This site seems to recommend low carbs and high fat. Are the initial guidelines now out of date

[moreless Administrator 7 stone]

Hi Liz,

This forum was set up to support the NHS 12 week plan, which follows the guidelines of the Eatwell plate, as you have stated.

We are all individuals, who are not medically trained and not employed by the NHS. We are following our own weight loss journeys and have, over time, done our own research and found what works for us, as individuals.

This is a peer to peer support group, so when people ask for support/advice, we offer what we have found to work/understand/believe. It's up to you whether you accept and follow that advice, or choose to ignore it.

I followed the guidelines set out by NICE for over 40 years and ended up morbidly obese, after a lifetime of dieting. I joined this forum, believing I was just weak willed and greedy. Other people, further along in their journeys and research, gave me conflicting advice and sowed the seeds of doubt. The first post, that changed my direction, was this one.

healthunlocked.com/nhsweigh...

After that, I made it my mission to find out as much as I could, which led to me losing over 7 stone in weight and getting my life back.

I'm not saying my way is the only way, or necessarily the best way, but I do know that it worked a heck of a lot better than the Eatwell Plate, for me.

I was given a lot of advice and encouragement when I joined and I try to pay that forward, as a laywoman, who's seen the results, rather than as a professional, who's following the rules.

I want nothing but success for you and all that join this forum, in any way that works for you

You may find this interesting and helpful too?

phcuk.org/wp-content/upload...

Wishing you all the best

[BridgeGirl Administrator 2 stone in reply to moreless]

Thanks for re-posting this moreless . I haven't read these for a while, and I'm going to do some rethinking (again!) when planning for next week

[moreless Administrator 7 stone in reply to BridgeGirl]

It's all about keeping an open mind and being prepared to continue learning, Mary. Once we get stuck in our ways, we get stuck on our journeys

[BridgeGirl Administrator 2 stone in reply to moreless]

I've always thought I'm not really "fussy" about foods and I'm not, I'm usually willing to try anything I'm given, but what I've realised in the last 6 months here is how much a creature of habit I am in the broadest sense i.e. what constitutes a breakfast or a lunch. Given that I'm retired and have few demands on my time, there's no reason at all why I can't be more creative and experimental and make some real readjustments.

I think I'm an example of "you can't do it all at once". I'm sure some people can, and "see the light" quickly, but I'm one of many for whom learning is incremental

[moreless Administrator 7 stone in reply to BridgeGirl]

I've been at this for nearly 3 years and continue to learn. I've tried all sorts of different things, but tend to be quite samey with my meals. I know what I like and don't like, so stick to that.

I don't believe in change, for change's sake, but remain open to different ideas, which I may, or may not, implement.

Doing things slowly, means we don't get bored, because there's always the possibility of something new, just around the corner

[RG07 Maintainer in reply to moreless]

I agree with this as well- I tended to have the same breakfast choices- muesli on work days, porridge or toast on days off. trying now to be a bit more adventurous- yoghurt, nuts & fruit and if out for breakfast- going shopping after a night shift I will try others- guacamole,poached egg & tomato on toast. Maybe need to look and try different options when I am at home on a day off. A friend of mine worked her way through her cookery books and made all the recipes in it- some she had only once, some she had again dependant on how she found them. I keep promising myself that I will do that but never do, maybe I will just need to change this staring form next week, since I do need to stock up on my frozen meals for work

[moreless Administrator 7 stone in reply to RG07]

Something to look forward to, RG and something else for you to do on your days off!

[RG07 Maintainer in reply to moreless]

got to keep myself occupied you know!!

[moreless Administrator 7 stone in reply to RG07]

No chance of you getting bored!

[IndigoBlue61]

I read the NHS guidelines differently Smiffyliz, to me the main thing is reducing calories whilst eating a balanced diet. For me, this includes all food groups, including fats and carbs but in moderation. I prefer full fat products so choose to have some for nutritional reasons

This NHS article may help, it does not push low fat products nhs.uk/Livewell/Goodfood/Pa...

[Smiffyliz]

Thanks to all . I will try the full fat natural yogurt instead of low fat. It might keep me full for longer

[lucigret in reply to Smiffyliz]

There is no doubt about it, it will keep you fuller. It is also nice with some oats mixed in, I do 150g of yoghurt with 25g of oats and add some fruit for my breakfast and it keeps me full all morning

[Smiffyliz]

Bought some today but was surprised when I got home that full fat natural yogurt had 25% more carbs and sugar than fat free natural Greek yogurt

But maybe make me fuller and will up my calories