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NHS England: A Call to Action

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'NHS resources should be moved towards prevention and early diagnosis in order to deliver high quality, sustainable care.'

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etinkwah profile image
etinkwah

Employ more nursing this would make bigger impact

appyalison profile image
appyalison

Earlier diagnosis, easier resolution, less damage/chronic illness = more time at work to pay taxes! Simples! :-) :-)

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Lincs2 in reply to appyalison

I agree entirely. Speaking from my own personal experience with the NHS I can honestly say that had my problem being addressed from the outset when I first started having problems I wouldn't probably be in the mess I am in now. Its been one constant battle trying to obtain the right diagnosis after being fobbed off and sent on my way. I have paid a huge amount of money towards private consultancy fees, acupuncture, electro-acupuncture, physio, bowens technique, chiropractic just for temporary pain relief. My father also paid for a private MRi for me because we wee getting worried when I lost my mobility not to mention the agonising pain I was in. Its no joke when patients are pushed from pillow to post and trying to get through to some of these GP's is like banging on wood. Basically, the reason why I was fobbed off is due to funding. They knew I had a serious problem but unless you are about to draw your last breath people have no chance in receiving specialised treatment. The NHS thinks that by sending people on their way is saving money but in the long run they don't because if patients were actually referred to were they should have been sent at the beginning people wouldn't be on the sick and would no doubt be back at work paying back into the system again. I have no faith in the NHS at all and I cant really see things getting any better either. The NHS has failed me terribly.

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PatientVoiceNW

If early diagnosis is done it means better quality of life for Patients & Carers, but also can work out cheaper in the long run for the NHS, everyone wins, common sense really.

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Lincs2 in reply to PatientVoiceNW

Precisely.

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Adawells

Actually, no, because the NHS ends up spending vast amounts of money on treating well people. We do not know which illnesses will go on to be fatal diseases, and which ones will clear up by themselves. Until we do, I'd prefer a wait and see approach, which should means the NHS has more resources to treat the truly sick.

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nmvtripp in reply to Adawells

So you want to wait till it's a fatal disease...?

Here's my example... from personal experience. They did not diagnose my injury correctly. They put me on painkillers hoping it would work itself out. I developed chronic pain from the painkillers... so they put me on more.

Long story short, 12 months later I - at 22 years old - am partially disabled and considering legal action as my 12 month fight for a MRI scan turns out to be wrongly referred and they plan to scan the wrong part of my back.

I have received no therapy for it, except the therapy I paid for out of credit cards and loans.

There is something very wrong in my back, and no one is willing to touch my case - in case they get it wrong because it's now so complicated - no one knows what to do.

12 months ago it would have been simple. Scan me - work out the damage - medication and therapy... I'd be alright by now.

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IKAN in reply to nmvtripp

They will not understand. Their jobs have become being fob off experts

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omji

yes.

The problem here is the initial cost of preventive medicine. I am all for this although with an aged society problems have not been picked up during the last thirty years. Now we are playing catch up and that can be very expensive as the conditions have gone past the easy treatable stage.

Sometimes the patient lets the condition grow worse as well, this can causes more expensive problems.

Personally I feel when at school children should be taught how to read their bodies and take a proactive attitude with their health.

Over the last decade I suppose many Surgeries are bringing people in for check ups at certain ages. Healthy Woman/Man has seemed to be a success as have other check ups. One good point is keeping an eye on your medications about once a year, this also can prevent problems when medications are not viewed on regular occasions.

The problem here is the initial cost of preventive medicine. I am all for this although with an aged society problems have not been picked up during the last thirty years. Now we are playing catch up and that can be very expensive as the conditions have gone past the easy treatable stage.

Sometimes the patient lets the condition grow worse as well, this can causes more expensive problems.

Personally I feel when at school children should be taught how to read their bodies and take a proactive attitude with their health.

Over the last decade I suppose many Surgeries are bringing people in for check ups at certain ages. Healthy Woman/Man has seemed to be a success as have other check ups. One good point is keeping an eye on your medications about once a year, this also can prevent problems when medications are not viewed on regular occasions.

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Buggles_80

There needs to be more nurses in the community and in hospital, this would help prevent inappropriate admissions, ensure safe discharges and ensure those in hospital are receiving best care. We rely too much on support workers to attend to most of care needs, support workers should be what their title states, support not the main provider of nursing care.

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skybluepink

The NHS only allows patient orientated research at tertiary level it then blocks .Many people have numerous chronic conditions how would that be dealt with ? Swimming lessons for those with chronic conditions or of a certain age and status , administered by non medical like Nurse, Technicians & admin.I have been to these Link Meetings as a rep for GP Panel then not allowed to feedback . These Meetings where without Patients & Charities they have been planning this from a while back .

You only have to look at what has happened to A&Es not testing to see the fate of those who may find their lives reduced by 30 yrs .

The whole system needs restructure more as it used to be with Specialists in charge as GP have forfeited their ethics by handing over the funds to the questionable LAs .As for the MPs ??!!

If the tests or screening were black and white ie yes /no then yes the NHS should be spending my money on it. BUT screening is not black and white eg 9 out of 10 positives for breast cancer screenings reported are not cancer.

We now have the threshold for risk criteria of heart /stroke reduced from 20% to 10% over the next 10 years. This is total BS - nobody can give a definitive answer to what is going to happen in the next 10 years. It is merely an example of tightening the criteria in a vain attempt to show that we are allegedly raising standards - it serves only to stress the patient.

IMO the only screening worth having is the Abdominal Aortic Artery - its either bulging or it is isn't end of story; black and white.

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skybluepink

Diagnosis from a nurse , admin or technician doing as directed from contract/remit is not going to happen because of Low Priority Policy causing delay especially with Alzheimers dementia as has an impact on social care that is being ignored .

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nmvtripp

As someone who remains undiagnosed for 12 months now... dear doctors... it's not gonna heal by itself... and now I have chronic pain. I'd like an explanation as to why no one took the time to actually investigate why a 22YEAR OLD HAS CHRONIC PAIN!!!

That's not normal. It's not normal for a 22 year old to use a walking stick and require her boyfriend to dress her in the morning....

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4grandma

Agree to a large extent

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4grandma

Agreed to a large extent

skybluepink profile image
skybluepink

knowing statistics agree with this as can be seen from Cancer Research findings why the No testing directives & acknowledgement of symptoms or research? Ignoring age & REASON or recommendations.Why do the Pilots surely they discriminates further and is against Equalities Act & NHS Constitution . When is the Government going to realise it cannot hide behind decentralisation .It is supposed to be protecting our interests surely?

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skybluepink

My Late Father a pharmacist had to go Private to access NHS over 40 yrs ago early to stave off prostrate cancer .He extended life by 30 years but those were days when Drs took Hippocratic oaths & cared for people & how the NHS functioned .

Now the Drs have sold their souls and our public funds to their cash strapped employers LAs allowing themselves, with little experience & specialism to play God on CCGs dominated by men no doubt .Oherwise why have so many told me I am costing too much no referrals, research consequently causing cardiac arrest .And this is still happening in this humane country .

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skybluepink

If questionable statistics used to ignore chronic conditions acute if neglected causing early mortality NO .The system is not functioning ethically ignoring history genetics & fair urgent access as this is already being used to ignore serious fatal conditions so many are dying before should.

NB Antibiotic issue so amputations & sepsis reigns still not teaching Students about Disability & Research .To use Primary care on 10min delated appts as specialists is downright negligent ?Is it not understood that one disability & condition can cause or be caused by another so restructure and urgent attention needed .

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skybluepink

Many medics are on autopilot not to research & acknowledge symptons using out dated equipment controlled by directed Practioners not GMC registered .Specialists have been ignored when used to control the funding & behaviour /functioning .Lifestyle does play a part but is not the be & end all , before we know it there will be practitioners with no knowledge of specialisms like GPs & we will be ones who suffer dying before our time as left in limbo . Just look at Cancer success rates .The uk is not at the forefront even though Cancer gets priority .