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Dear ladies

I'd like your views on jabs/immunisation during pregnancy and post-pregnancy for both, myself and our baby. My husband and I are very much into holistic/naturopatic lifestyle and he really does not want any jabs to be administered (he never had any). I've been asked by my health care professional to consider Whooping Cough vaccine (I am currently 21 weeks pregnant) and feel confused about the variety of information out there - the medical side makes a pro-argument whilst there is also a lot of literature about the amount of bulking agents and chemicals which are too strong or effective for the baby/mother.

I look forward to hearing your news. Thank you.

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Kempton profile image
Kempton

Unfortunately a lot of literature out there on the side of not getting your child immunised has no backing and is written by any old Joe Bloggs, whereas the NHS is a long standing institution that has a lot of research behind it.

I would personally never gamble with my child's life. In our culture we have managed to almost completely prevent deaths from things like TB and polio bevause we are fortunate enough to have access to free immunisations on the NHS. That's not the case across the world.

I recently came across this poster and it was a little over dramatic but the idea behind it was that the child can't speak for itself so do the right thingand don't gamble. I really don't think the nhs are out to pump yours or your baby's bodu wi th crap.

Your husband may not have had the imms but have you? Whopping cough can be dangerous to the unborn baby. Don't risk it is my opinion.

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Lovefood1984

Personally I got the vaccinations, I’d hate for my baby to catch anything and either end up disabled or worst case dying (extreme but possible). Vaccinations for your baby also decreases the risk of SIDS. Although my baby was unsettled for a couple of days she’s tolderated them well and given I’m not breastfeeding she’s building her own immunity. I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t be allowed to bulk them out with detrimental chemicals but I know the internet must be full of conflicting research/ideas. Personally for me the vaccination programme has eliminated/vastly reduced many debilitating childhood diseases. We’ve just taken our daughter off antacids for silent reflux as we don’t want to medicate her unnecessarily (we’re hoping it was the milk allergy that caused the damage in the first place and now it’s repaired she won’t need meds 🤞). Each to their own though and its up to you what you ultimately end up doing. Hopefully someone who hasn’t vaccinated might be able to give their opinions why as a balance x

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claire16c

If you don’t get the whooping cough vaccination then your baby will be at risk of catching it before they get their own jabs to cover it at about two months old. There is nothing that can holistically protect your baby apart from getting the jabs done. For you and them. Sadly because some parents have not vaccinated their children we’ve had things like measles outbreaks. I’d never forgive myself if anything happened to my child when I could have protected them.

Whooping cough would not be good for a newborn baby to get let alone older.

As Kempton has said there is a lot of literature out thereagainr jabs but it has no evidence. It’s mainly written by conspiracy theorists. The nhs wouldn’t give jabs for no reason.

Lizzielizzielizzie profile image
Lizzielizzielizzie in reply to claire16c

I agree with Claire. The risks of immunisation are tiny. The risks from these diseases are much greater.

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Snowy76

We vaccinate against these diseases for good reason. I can't really add anything more that hasn't already been said.

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Cheekymonkey85

I took a different view & didn't have the vaccine, nor have my children had any.

I didn't make this decision after reading conspiracy theory stuff online.

It's more a risk based decision. I looked at the rates of each illness in my area & decided I was in a low risk area. Gp and health visitors have been very supportive of our choice & we know if we change our mind we can get it sorted.

My daughter is now 5 & very healthy.

Vaccines don't offer cover for life, and there are plenty of other illnesses that can cause harm that we don't routinely vaccinate against.

At the end of the day the choice is yours, and you shouldn't be pressured either way x

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Kempton in reply to Cheekymonkey85

I totally respect your opinion and decision to do what you want with your children but as you say you took this decision based on the fact you are in a low risk area. So really, you are benefiting from the decisions of those around you who are choosing to vaccinate their children and thus making it a low risk place to be.

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ChrisWest1983 in reply to Kempton

Not really Kempton. For example : my son was born in UK - no much risk of Tuberculosis- so noone gets vaccines against it. But where I come from we have it and nearly everyone gets vaccination and does ex-rays every few years to see if they don't have it (health professionals think has it done every year- so they don't pass it to the patients. If dad wants to be present at birth- he needs to do lung ex-ray)

Some deseases are regional.

Like were I come from the rates of measles is 0%

Of course - there's a risk always if someone bringing stuff back from travels & holidays.

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Kempton in reply to ChrisWest1983

Fair point but as you say there is always a risk and I suppose it's just not one I'm willing to take with my baby.

There is a lot of misinformation on the internet about the risks of vaccines and as a result a rise in babies and children dying in the Western World unnecessarily of illnesses that could’ve easily been prevented by a vaccination. Do your own research but please base it on fact and medical research, not other people’s opinions. If you google “google scholar” it will open up a new search browser where you can find information.

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Ellstar87

I was not given the whooping cough booster as I was allergic to the first jab. I caught whooping cough in my teens. It permanently damaged my vocal chords to the extent I was no longer able to sing, which meant I had to give up musical theatre. Please vaccinate your child. If not for them, for the safety of other children and pregnant women that your child may encounter.

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pinkie93

If you're worried about vaccines causing Autism, those studies were proven to be fraudulent and the children in those studies were mistreated. Also my mum didn't vaccinate me because she was worried about Autism, I'm Autistic anyway and had to fight to get all the vaccines I had missed when I turned 16 (still Autistic, nothing changed). The problem is I couldn't get all the vaccines my mum didn't get me a child so I have been left vulnerable and I resent that. Please don't let the anti-vaxxer's scare you, some of them are disgusting individuals, try watching some Jeff Holliday videos about this on YouTube. As for what you can avoid by getting your child vaccinated; my grandad is 90 and hasn't had leg muscle since he developed polio on his 2nd birthday (can now be prevented by vaccine). My nan lost her mum, an aunt and her unborn baby brother to TB (can now be prevented by vaccine). My friend who didn't get the MMR like me is not infertile after catching mumps. Rubella won't harm your child, but if they have it and come into contact with a pregnant woman, that woman's baby could be severely disabled (possibly born deaf and blind). Rather than just reading about vaccines, have a look at the illnesses they prevent, so many people forget the horror of these illnesses because we don't see them so often anymore and I for one want them to stay in the past.

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JLew

I got my vaccinations. My friend's grandfather is a GP, he always got all of his kids vaccinated with whatever was the most recent vaccine. A lot of anti-vaxx evidence has no credibile basis and is written by people who are nor certified, also the autism study was fraudulent. Besides, even if it did cause autism (which it does not) then that is better than losing your child. The NHS would not recommend something if there was no benefit as we don't pay for the vaccines here as the NHS provides them. People who died or became disabled of these diseases would have more than likely wanted a preventive vaccine. So why take it for granted? Some people say they feel ill after vaccinations. I did not and I feel it is a placebo effect that you will feel worse after you are told possible side effects. X

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