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10 years since my circumcision for lichen sclerosus /BXO

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Hi guys, Just thought I would post this here in case it might help others having to deal with lichen sclerosus and having a circumcision done in the hope of curing the lichen sclerosus. imgur.com/qsS2TF5

some guys have asked what it looked like with the LS so the first photo in the link below is of my frenulum which was badly affected this is before my frenulum eventually broke which can be seen in the second photo. the LS spread out from frenulum area to affect most of my inner foreskin I also had some patches on my glans before I had the circumcision. I did try using the steroid creams which did help at first but it never really stopped it completely. I have also posted photos of it now. I hope these photos help. It can be a hard decision to have a circumcision done but sometime it needs to be for medical reasons in my case it was the best decision I made as I'm in remission I known it could always come back in the future at some stage but for now everything is good. If you have any medical conditions or problems down there the best thing to do is have it checked with your doctor.

it would have been great to have a forum like this to ask questions and get advice at that time when I had lichen sclerosus and having the circumcision done.

Feel free to ask me any questions about the lichen sclerosus or the circumcision I'd be happy to help.

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It looks really good. I'm glad you are satisfied with it, that is most important.

I wish my flaccid would look like that.

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Hi Charl, thanks for your compliment man.

It's still early days for you man having some extra skin can be beneficial in ways. It was well over a year before my skin and scar felt right and I did have a slight revision about 4 months after my circumcision.

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Hi Man, if you are not satisfied with your result you probably could have a revision done maybe it depends on how much foreskin is left. I was not happy with one area around the frenulum there was a little bit of excess skin left I didn't like the look of so I had it removed

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Presuming your operation was done for free, were you entitled to your revision for free also or did you have to pay as it was mostly cosmetic?

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Hi, I actually went private and paid for my surgeries. the waiting lists in the public hospitals were too long at that time.

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Thanks NOWHARD I am very happy with my results.

I think this is a very good forum for passing on information from guys like yourself with experience and knowledge to help out others guys with there problems it can be quite daunting when you have a problem.

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Great cut. It looks super neat and hygienic.

Did you choose the style or just the surgeons preference?

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Hi Jimbo,

thanks man. it's low-maintenance now😁. Because of the LS most of my inner foreskin had to be removed so I didn't really have many options other than to have a low and tight circumcision

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Where did you go for your circumcision?

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Hi Jimbo, I had my circumcision done in Ireland it wouldn't be a very common procedure done here.

Amazing , i have exactly the same cut . Amazing results .still very sensitive to clothing

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Thanks Man, I didn't have sensitivity for that long a few weeks and then it just faded away.

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Im just 4 weeks post.op , obviously youre not sensitivr.for 6 years duh ....

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Just imagine 6 years if it was😁

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I cant imagine man , that scares me

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Sorry for asking a silly question. The four photos are all flaccid or only one is flaccid.

I want to do a circumcision revision, as the doctor cut me low without communicating the style to me. I had recurrent balantis caused by a tight foreskin that tears frequently.

Your photos look like mine when flaccid. I have some inner foreskin between shaft and the head when the flaccid penis hangs down due to the weight of the head. When the penis is upright, the remaining foreskin will never go over the glands in flaccid stage. So I suppose my style is low and tight.

However, when erect, all the foreskin retract back to almost touch the glands. My shaft skin is still movable. I want the skin to remain pulled back totally when erected, and I was wondering whether it can be revised.

Your photos are a good reference for me.

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MrMac99 in reply to Nopadob

Hi Man, that's no problem I would class them all as flaccid especially the 3rd the only photo that I am erect in is the last photo.

It sounds like you have a very similar style of circumcision to mine when erect I would have very little movement in the shaft my glans are exposed all the time even when flaccid in the 3rd photo that is as close as my skin gets to cover my glans.

My foreskin tightened over time due to the LS I used to get those little tears and scarring and the balanitis infections which none of them were very nice.

How long have you been circumcised? if it's not that long I would give it more time it takes a long time for everything to settle.

I'm glad the photos were of some help

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Nopadob in reply to MrMac99

I am in my sixth week now. I still have some stitches but the doctor told me the stitches will dissolve completely in the two months, and all activities can resume.

Yes, I think we have a similar style of circumcision. Mine might be looser when erect, and I still have my frenulum.

I had sex for the first time after circumcision, and the frenulum area felt tense like how it was before circumcision. I had always thought it was due to tight foreskin. I only learnt now that the tension could be due to tight frenulum which can be rectified. I would probably remove the frenulum later, and do a revision as well.

Thanks so much for the photos which are a great reference.

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MrMac99 in reply to Nopadob

You were still in the very early stages you're still have healing to do.

I had all of my stitches out in 2 weeks I couldn't stand them I always had a problem with my frenulum being to tight the LS started in that area and spread out so that's why I had to have my frenulum removed before that my frenulum got so tight it broke which released the phimosis I had at that time but the phimosis would start to return with the LS tightening the skin.

it's still early for your healing if you leave it a bit longer your skin will eventually loosen and won't be as tight around the frenulum area I used bio oil to soften the scar

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MrMac99 in reply to Nopadob

Hey man you could still have a revision it all depends on how much foreskin is left if you wanted your frenulum removed you could have that done I'm sure your frenulum will loosen when everything heals up it just takes time

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I had a revision when I was 20. I was already tightly circumcised but I wanted it super-tight with no skin movement at all and I wanted my frenulum removed. All was successful and my frenulum area is more sensitive than before. I can only recommend it though you may need to wait a while, though not for the 20 years I had between circumcisions!

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I look forward to make my soldier super tight as well later.

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Give him a chance to heal first man see then😊

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Hi 15 days since cut all healing well Q how long does it take for the the cut line to soften up thanks

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You ever get the answer 😀

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Hi Man, for me It took some months for it to eventually start to soften and become supple I'd say it would be over a year before you could say it was back to normal at first I thought the skin was too tight but eventually it loosens up and your scar will as well. you will always have a scar but it does fade. I use bio oil I found it to be good for the scar and soften the tissue I used to massage it in everyday

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Hi Bucky, I take that as a big compliment thank you.

as you said LS is one of the very few indications for circumcision.

I do understand the different opinions with regards to circumcision some guys might not be happy with the result and would prefer to have their foreskin back and foreskin restoration is a good option for them. but in my case I am very happy with my result and much prefer it this way.

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Hi, All the pics look really good and has healed really well,you must be happy with the end result,the erection pic to me looks the best and cleaning of them all

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Hi LASERUK, thanks for that Man much appreciated. I think it turned out not too bad for me.

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Very nice, neat circumcision. Excellent! You should be very pleased.

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Hi thanks Drew i appreciate that very much

Your penis look really good, MrMac. Glad you're happy with the result and that the LS has been dealt with. A very neat job indeed. Great result, but as you said it's a bit of a trauma to live through. :)

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Thanks Man. it can be a tough time having it done I was lucky I healed up quite quickly and the LS didn't come back. some of the guys here on this forum are not as lucky. Have you had a circ or LS in the past.

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Yeah. I've had a circumcision, but thankfully not LS, although an ex gf did develop it; not nice in the slightest. :( :( :(

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Did you have it done for a condition or just personal preference and are you heal up now. your ex gf is unfortunate to have LS it's not a nice condition. us guys are lucky if we get in time we can just have a circumcision and hopefully it clears up.

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Hi MrMac. Yes, it was phimosis. It took about four or so weeks to heal and I waited upwards of six before having sex. Yes, I'm well-healed now. I agree, LS is a very nasty condition indeed for women to develop and as in many areas of life, we men have it easy in comparison. Take care!

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Have you noticed any dislikes since you’ve been cut?

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Hi Man, it takes a bit of getting used to it at first. it does take a long time for the skin to settle. it's a new learning curve with everything I found you do lose some sensitivity but it doesn't affect me that much I can't say I have any major dislikes with it now I much prefer it now. I know some guys dislike it afterwards that is understandable but sometimes you have to have it for medical reasons and I do think it is an individual's choice if they want it.

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If you could choose a fully working foreskin vs cut what would you choose?

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Hi Man, that's a very good question I suppose if I didn't have the medical problem with LS I probably would never have had the circumcision done. but I needed to have it done because of the LS so I can't say I had the option. but for me both ways have work equally as well.

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Thank you

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Hello MrMac99. Did you also experience swelling after masturbation or sex? Got circumcised three months ago, I have still some oedema that swells after sex.

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Hi Giogg, that would be quite normal you are only 3 months man your skin is still healing I had the same thing with my circumcision if I went anyway hard it would get puffy and swollen. it was probably well over the year before everything felt normal again and a scar felt soft.

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Your skin and scar will probably feel tight for sometime but this eventually gets better when the skin stretches a little bit and will feel normal again some bio oil or vitamin E oil would be good

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Thank you for your time MrMac99. I appreciate that. Nice cut, by the way!

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That's no problem Giogg glad to help, and thank you.

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Very nice circumcision. What I like about it, is that it’s not to tight, so therefore you will most likely have comfortable erections. I am just curious how tight is your skin during an erection?

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Hi Man thank you for that I appreciated. I wouldn't have that much movement when I'm erect it is possibly to move the skin on the shaft but only very slightly. when I was circumcised first I thought it might be to tight but I think the skin adapts and does stretch a little after some time

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Very interesting, thank you. My circumcision was way to tight, so I stretched it and I no longer have painful erections. It does stretch, but in my case I just had to put the extra effort in to stretch it to cause more skin to grow. I still have no moveable skin during an erection, but it doesn’t hurt anymore. Mine was high and to tight lol.

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And how did you do the stretching

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I did different techniques. You can type in “foreskin restoration: Manuel methods”. There are a variety of different methods to try.

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That's great man you were able to stretch having painful erections would be annoying. just wondering how did you do the stretching what was your technique and how long is it since you had your circumcision. mine naturally stretched over time it wasn't painful or anything just felt a bit uncomfortable

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I was circumcised without my consent when I was an infant, so unfortunately it’s very hard to determine the right amount to take off at that period. I always thought that what I experienced was normal, but in reality it was not. Finally at the age of 31, I finally realized that what I was experiencing was not normal. You can just type in: “foreskin restoration: Manuel methods” and you will see a variety of different methods. Even if a man just wanted to gain enough skin to have more comfortable erections, without going all the way, this can be done as well.

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That's interesting man I'm glad you were able to restore enough skin to make things comfortable you are happy with the amount of movement you have now you don't have to do stretching now. I can only imagine how uncomfortable it must have been it would be very hard to judge the amount of skin to take when you are an infant. my surgent examine me very thoroughly beforehand to see how much he could remove. with the condition I had it was necessary to be exposed all of the time.

That's good information to know it might help other guys who may have problems

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Old posts I know, but to anyone new reading this, be careful with stretching. I also heard this method works, but just want to give some caution to the fact I got BXO under a number of circumstances and I can't be sure which was the cause (if any). During covid stretch, no physical activity due to everything being closed, feeling depressed, and just started anti-depressants. Couldn't get off and ended up causing skin burn. That's where my BXO started and continued over a year to make it all the way around the shaft circumference. I read anti-depressants can affect the immune system. Your mood can as well. I think therefore it's possible a weaker immune system can be an opportunity for BXO to appear in a wound. The older you get, the lower your immune gets and I would just guess that if someone looked up stats on BXO, it likely appears more often in older men than younger men (I'm speculating).

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There is one catch. You need to stretch it around 10% more than you want because when you stop, the skin will go backwards 10%. I am not sure how far I want to go. My frenulum reattached to the head of my penis, which is so exciting. I just think that if they are going to perform circumcision on infants, then they should at-least be more lenient with how much they remove. It looks like you still have your frenulum from looking at your pictures? Also how does masterbation compare to when you were intact? I’ve always been curious lol.

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I suppose that kind of makes sense about the skin contracting after you stretch it. you must have had some remaining frenulum I would think when you still have some of it there. my frenulum was removed it was badly affected with the LS there might be just the very small remains of my frenulum. masturbation is definitely different without foreskin you do lose finetouch when you are circumcised but if you use lube it is very similar, you do get used to it it's not something that would worry me I do last longer now as well which is a bonus. I do agree with you about infants being circumcised.

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Great feedback Mac. Glad to know JO is not all that bad when cut. I do have a concern over that. Lasting long isn't an issue for me, but I have been told by many ex's that their cut ex's would hurt because it would get dry. This also makes sense since the foreskin is the lube basically so the girl doesn't get dry. I know lube is the fix, but who keeps lube in the car for a spur-of-the-moment encounter? Having had both skin and now no skin and mentioning a few differences, how have women responded to the difference? I know that's a bit anecdotal to provide, but not if you were with the same person before and after the operation.

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I have my entire frenulum. The reason is that they didn’t break the adhesions as the first step, which would mean that the outer foreskin/shaft skin was removed in large amounts, but the inner foreskin was protected because the inner lining of the foreskin is still attached to the head of the penis at the neonatal stage, so if the skin is pulled forward without breaking the adhesions, what ends up happening is that only outer foreskin and possibly shaft skin get removed while maintaining the inner foreskin. The frenulum would not be disturbed. What’s interesting is that I have this circular ring of tissue, which is attached to the frenulum located mid shaft. When I stretch it forward, I notice that I pre-cum and it is very sensitive lol. It appears that they broke the adhesions after cutting off foreskin and peeled the inner lining of the foreskin to be part of my shaft. I don’t see how it would be possible for me to have any remnant of the ridged band left after circumcision, but this tight ring of tissue is positioned where the ridged band would have been. This is located right below my circumcision scar. I did hear from reading this forum that the ridged band could be lower on the shaft. If a circumcision is then performed, then the man could possibly still have the ridged band. I guess it could just be scar tissue, but it’s interesting to try and figure out how my circumcision was performed. My frenulum was lower on the shaft prior to me doing foreskin restoration. They ended up removing a lot of my shaft skin as well, which explains the issues I experienced. Out of curiosity how did the sensation of the frenulum compare to the ridge band? I really enjoy talking to you :)

My circumcision is truly a mystery that I am trying to solve lol.

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MrMac99 in reply to At1012

That's an interesting insight into circumcision as a baby. I imagined when it would be done as a baby that they would leave the frenulum in place most of the time. I would imagine your ridged band would have been removed completely the Mark that was left could have been from the instruments they used to circumcise you.

so you ended up with a high and very tight circumcision and frenulum intact when you are flaccid would you have any bunching up behind your glans? the fact that you had problems with it being to tight suggest you are probably a grower?

I found over the years my foreskin got tighter over time and my ridged band wasn't that pleasurable in fact it got more painful over time as tiny cuts started to appear and it eventually got tighter I also found it restricted my glans from expanding quite a bit. my frenulum was always a bit short and tight but was more pleasurable especially lower down there was a G-spot just below the frenulum on my shaft which was very pleasurable

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I’m definitely a grower lol

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I remember being a little boy and how I was able to push my penis into my pubic fat to make it not visible

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2CutNot2Cut in reply to At1012

LOL...I went to the doctor once to show him my dick for concern of a possible STD (it wasn't thankfully haha) and I wasn't big and when I pulled my foreskin back, I made my penis look about as big as just the tip with no shaft...and I was shaved so no hair hiding it. I needed 30 seconds to fluff it, but no go so it was kind of embarrassing.

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Thank You for the insight as I was always curious what it would be like to be intact. To this day I always have to readjust my underwear because the foreskin is not there to protect the glans and it gets irritated and to this day there is certain clothing that I just can not wear. Did you notice a difference in wearing clothing after circumcision? I know exactly what g spot you are talking about lol. It is attached to my frenulum right below my circumcision scar. It appears to regulate my orgasm. I always thought it was a remnant of the ridged band, but most likely it is scar tissue that replicates the ridged band. I’m hoping they left that part, you are describing, of your penis intact. It looks like you got a low and tight circumcision. For your condition, what would have happened if you got a high and tight circumcision? Would it not solve the medical problem? One of the techniques I used was a form of edging, which probably was the best method for me to use because my penis was also buried. I would alternate between having an erection and then letting the penis get buried again. I think this is what you mean by the skin would stretch over time. I just had to help it get there that much more haha. In the past after ejaculating, I had to push on the pubic fat in order to not feel pain. I no longer have to do this.

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MrMac99 in reply to At1012

Hi Man, I think every man has to readjust whether they are circumcised or intact at first I did find it uncomfortable with some of the sensitivity but that didn't last long for me sometimes the boxes I wear have a seam down the middle which can irritate a little.

You are lucky you still have your G-spot unfortunately I lost mine when I was circumcised it was on the border of where I needed to be cut there was some LS close by.

Yes mine is low and tight I couldn't have a high and tight because most of the LS was on my inner foreskin which had to be removed with the low cut if I had a High cut that would remove more of the skin on my shaft and leave the inner foreskin which in my case was where I had the LS so that's why I had to have the low and tight cut.

Yes the skin would stretch the more you use it eventually your skin would settle into a comfortable position.

You must have had a really tight circumcision when it used to get buried in your pubic fat and it's not that way now.

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Yep, I agree that I am very lucky in that respect, but I will always wonder how everything would have been had I been intact lol. That sucks that they removed your inner foreskin, but you were lucky to experience what an intact penis was like. That’s what was so deceptive about my circumcision, they left the sensitive tissue intact, but removed the so called useless skin, as they like to call it, but in my case they just removed to much of it. Pleasure dulled out the pain. It must have been so nice to not have to use lubricant. I was just looking up the condition you have and now I realized why you got circumcised. It’s a lot more serious than I realized and could increase the risk of cancer. I am so sorry you had to deal with that condition. Do you know how you got it?

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You are lucky you're were left with so much Sensation I think it probably is because you were left your frenulum and it's good that you got the extra skin back with the stretching.

I don't mind being circumcised man I actually enjoy it more then before I know I may not be quite a sensitive as before but that's not a bad thing I last longer and my orgasms are more intense now I don't always use lube I can still come ok without it was good before though.

The LS is not a nice thing I don't know why I got it I think it is just something that happens some guys there is no reason for it shit happens sometimes and you just have to deal with it.

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This is why partial circumcision could have some benefits. I think the most attractive looking penis would have only part of the head covered. This would also have health benefits as well. This was the original biblical circumcision. I am so happy that my frenulum is intact, I was very lucky in this respect. When you were intact was your flaccid penis completely covered? I am almost certain it was because when it is covered completely, that’s where all the problems come from.

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Hi Man, yes my glans were completely covered even when I was erect it was mostly covered until I pulled it down. the conditions that I had meant that I had to be fully exposed all of the time because the condition could come back if I was only partially circumcised that's why I had to have a low and tight cut.

So yes I think my condition was caused by it being fully covered.

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Mefirts in reply to MrMac99

In my case I have doubt if was the short frenulum or bxo case the frenulum skin was damaged. So, maybe could be solved the bxo but I still had to repair the short frenulum.

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Exact shape and detail as mine brave man to have it done hope it works out for you and well done for having the courage on having it done top man !

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Thanks Rhino it needed to be done. it's nearly 6 years now since I had it done so I am well used to it. I found it strange at first but I really do prefer it this way and even how it looks it's much better then before.

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I really like the outcome of your circumcision! Looks great.

Unfortunately, mine came out all bumpy and it just doesn't look as good (it's been 2 years since). I was cut similarly to you, perhaps half a cm further down from your scar line. I'm looking into revision sometime soon. Were erections ever really a problem from your revision?

All the best

- John

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Hi John, thank you for that. sorry to hear yours didn't turn out quite as well you are thinking of having a revision. I had no problems afterwards with erections it was only a minor revision around my frenulum there was a piece of skin I didn't like the look of and we were not sure if there was still some LS there.

You said you have some bumps on your circumcision scar what do you think caused them. was it maybe from an infection or do you think it is a keloid scar? And you said you cut is similar to mine but maybe half a cm further down do you mean away from the glans are closer to the glans?

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zavixal in reply to MrMac99

A few weeks into recovery, the stitches on the right side fell out too soon leaving an unpleasant gap which eventually closed up. First, I believe the lumps were from the stitches being too tight. Then the painless, pale, and firm bumps near my scar line were either caused by the vein being cut off or from the holes in my stitches (could also be a keloid scar but the separation between my inner foreskin and the shaft skin merged perfectly). It isn’t so bad, but ofc, I am superficial on its appearance.

I was circumcised half a cm away from the glans, luckily, when flaccid, I have enough skin left so it doesn’t feel tight at all. This could possibly lead me to a better result if I were to get a revision :)

All the best

- John

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MrMac99 in reply to zavixal

That was unfortunate that your stitches came out too soon it sounds like you have a high and maybe loose cut that would be favorable for you having a revision you should have enough skin left for it. Have you had it checked to see what the surgeon thinks?

And it's ok to want to have it looking right I would be the same that's why I had the revision done I wasn't going to leave it that way.

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When you had your circumcision was the swelling between the incision and head like a ring? If so how long did it take to drop?

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Hi John, at first it was a little bit but not that much it was more my shaft skin below my incision line was swollen and especially around the frenulum area that was the biggest problem with swelling for me it looked really weird. eventually it turned out there was too much skin there and I had it removed with a revision.

Do you have swelling still how long have you been circumcised? It can take some time for it to go down everybody is different some guys don't have a problem with swelling other guys do and some guys suffer with sensitivity. ice cubes are good and I think massaging will help as well to reduce the swelling and fluid. mine for a long time used to swell a bit especially after being over used so take it handy.

Hope that helped in some way

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John12123 in reply to MrMac99

Thanks. It’s been swollen for 3 months now. Last month it looked like it was getting better then just stopped. Reading online I hear people say it takes 6 months. Was this the case with you as well? I’m curious how it looked before the revision and if I would need to do a revision

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MrMac99 in reply to John12123

Hi John, that's no problem I'm sorry to hear you're still have swelling after 3 months you said it's like a ring around the glans you can get edema there sometimes if you are cut on the highside you are left with inner foreskin which swells easily. It can take up to 6 months or even longer.

Mine wasn't really like that it was more one spot the frenulum area which had excess skin the swelling did go down but it still took a year or more for everything to feel normal with the scar and the tightness and sometimes it used to swell after exercise. If you'd like to PM me that's no problem.

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John12123 in reply to MrMac99

For that area that was swollen. How long did it take to flatten out? Since I am only 3 months in, guess it’s best to wait another 3 months for the swelling. Was your head also swollen due to the swelling? Mines right now is dry and slight crack,

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MrMac99 in reply to John12123

Hi John, most of my swelling had gone down before I had the revision there was some excess skin which I didn't like the look of, my glans were not swollen it was more the skin below my scar and mostly around my frenulum. It is normal for your glans to dry out and have little cracks on the surface.

I think in your case from what you have described it might be better to wait a bit longer and hopefully the swelling will go down. have you been using the ice cubes? and your GP did not recommend anything?

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A very nice tool you are packing I must say 🙂 partner must be happy

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Hi Man, thank you for the compliment man, from the posts you have put up yours is not too bad either. if I had one I think we would be happy🙂

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Awww that’s sad to hear :/ me too

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Yeah sure something might come along🤞

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How old if you mind me asking

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I'm 44 now🙂 but in my head I'm still 21😁

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Ah :)

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I had mine done in Ireland in 2014 by laser.

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Yes I did as well did you have it done in Dublin. how do you find it now after 5 years?

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Can you please tell me the name of the surgeon in Dublin.?

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Hi Man, it was done with Dr Sam in his clinic in Malahide. I found him really good and with very good knowledge of the procedure.

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Can you please tell me the name of the surgeon in Dublin?

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italidav

Great circ results. Looks very similar to my tight low cut. I was circed at about 20 years ago. In my early 20s. For cosmetic reasons.

Do you know what type of circ procedure was done on your penis?

Not sure on mine....

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MrMac99 in reply to italidav

Hi, as far as I know it was the sleeve resection method. I was sedated so I don't remember while he was doing it.

I do remember there was very little bleeding even afterwards and it healed very quickly the sutures or stitching was like one continuous stitch with like maybe 4 ends around and the scar.

How do you find it now after 20 years?

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I like it very much. Only issue that I have is that I wish my circ scar would have been a moderate to higher cut. Mine is 1 cm behind the glans.

Love the look and how clean my penis feels. Although I lost a bit of sensitivity.

How about you? How many cm is your scar line down the shaft?

Are you happy with being circumcised?

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MrMac99 in reply to italidav

Hey, I love being circumcised it's much better than before. I did lose a little bit of sensitivity as well but I last longer now and have more intense orgasms which is really great. How do you find your orgasms are they more intense?

My cut is about 1 cm or a little more. I think if you had a High cut you could have some bunching up behind the glans when you are flaccid.

I think it looks nicer to be cut low and tight but the compromises is you do lose some sensitivity.

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italidav in reply to MrMac99

Dont think I would have liked to have bunching up against the glans. So guess I should be happy with my adult circ results.

Ya it takes me a long ass time to orgasm. I have to work it hard when having penis vaginal intercourse. With masterbation I can get off much quicker but does require alot of stimulation....

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MrMac99 in reply to italidav

Yeah I'm the same it takes longer now but it's not a bad thing. I used to come to quickly and now my orgasms are more intense. it's not great with using a condoms that's the biggest downside.

Probably a high and tight cut would be ok you would have no bunching then behind your glans.

I know some guys here have that style and it looks quite good

If your condition was so worse it was impossible for your surgery to save your foreskin then you probably end up better.

But if i had opportunity to save i’d save as much as because its road to loosing half of your sensitivity and loss will compound as you get older then finally getting ED (probably)

I’d still prefer partial/high-loose cut which covers majority of glans and intact frenulum to keep sensual sensitivity in flaccid state and retracts comfortably during erection.

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Hi, yes you are correct I needed a full circumcision with my frenulum removed because of the condition I had lichen sclerosus which is one of the very few conditions requiring a circumcision.

I don't feel that I have lost that much sensitivity certainly not 50% and in my case I think it has actually improved my sex life. I last longer now and I certainly have much more intense orgasms than before which is really great.

Maybe in the future I will get ED I don't know. I think that can affect an man circumcised or intact and at any age young or old.. I know the chances of it increases with age that's life I suppose but we can't be worrying about the future.

Sorry to hijack, but this post seemed to have the most relevant replies.

I had my procedure a month ago, tomorrow. I still have a few stitches that have yet to dissolve and my frenulum is a bit sore and bumpy looking.. :/ also post op, I like the look, but it kinda just looks like I’ve just retracted my foreskin..? Is this common? The skin is slightly raised around my head, but if I get a semi, the skin sort of pulls back, so there’s a gap between my head and the raised skin, where they made the cut.

Is this normal? And should I get my frenulum checked or is it still too early? (I’ve been to the doctors about 7 times xD). Almost finished my second dose of antibiotics as I had an infection due to conflicting after care advise =.=

2 weeks post op were horrendous.

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MrMac99 in reply to WildCoastalMorning

Hi Man, don't worry about the hijack that's fine🙂. With normal healing your stitches should be gone by now but in your case with the infection that you had it may have slowed down your stitches dissolving which was probably not a bad thing. if you are fully healed now you could have them removed.

You're frenulum and scar line can be sore and bumpy and maybe swollen for some time it will eventually go. I would use some Bio-Oil and massage the area.

It sounds like you may have had a loose cut this is causing some bunching of your remaining foreskin behind your glans. this can be normal with the different styles of circumcision and the way different doctors do it. does your circumcision look anything like mine or do you have looser cut to mine. you probably still have some swelling as well which doesn't help this should reduce over time as well.

It's a little bit hard for me to imagine what you are asking without a photo maybe if you get a chance you could post a photo it would explain things better.

It sounds like you had a difficult time with infections and this would have slow your healing considerably hopefully you are at the right side of this now. 👍

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Sorry for the delay on replying. Thank you for you reply! Its healing well now, my frenulum is looking much better. The only problem now is I can't get a proper hard on.. I can get a semi, but anything more than that and the skin (by the scar line) gets super tight and seemingly restricts it from getting bigger.. not sure if this is even possible but I can't for the life of me get back my former 'glory' 😂

It's hard to explain, but when I get hard, the area where my penis attaches to my pubic region goes tight on either side. The only way I can explain it, is that it feels as though where I've been cut, the skin is too tight to accommodate the growth. Could it be possible that the skin has fused to my wound?

A tad shy about posting pics of my penis online 😂 but ill see if I can get one uploaded soon - could do with input and piece of mind.

I'm going to book an appointment with the Doc next week, just for a check up.

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MrMac99 in reply to WildCoastalMorning

Hi Man. I think it is normal to not get fully hard at first I was like that as well it takes a bit of time for your full erection to come back. your skin will be tight as well if you use the bio oil and massage it in and have erections often it will eventually stretch your skin it could take up to a year before everything feels normal again. the only problem there might be is if you were cut super tight this would restrict your erections. Hopefully this is not the case and it will settle in time. it's a good idea you are having a check up with your doctor you can ask him about these concerns you have and see what they say.

And there's no need to be shy man we all have something similar😁

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Hi Man, yes it has cleared thankfully there are a couple of spots that I know are there but you can't see them on the photos. It is one of the conditions that require circumcision. it definitely has improved for me and anybody with this condition BXO /LS I would definitely recommend having a circumcision done.

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Hi, your circumcision looks good & I would be happy if my looked anything like that. I’m now 12 weeks post circumcision & I still have no shaft. Went in with six inches flaccid, eight inches erect, now it’s just a mushroom head flaccid and three inches erect. No chance of intercourse or masturbation ☹️ Doc says the skin will stretch, but it’s playing hell with my mind ☹️ Need some reassurance that I will eventually get my dick back & be able to shoot. After my experience would not recommend circumcision to anyone ☹️ See post on my profile for pics.

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Hi Man, I'm sorry to hear you are having some difficulty with your length not returning. I do remember after my circumcision I felt that my length had decreased as well but after several months it did return. It could take up to a year before everything feels normal again. I feel the more you can exercise it and have regular erections it will stretch your skin I found using bio oil really helped. Although your circumcision doesn't look really excessively tight. when you are asleep do you still get night-time erections. And when you have an erection now does your penis stand to attention. And can I ask your reason for having it done did you have a condition?

Sorry for all the questions. I think if you give it more time this is probably the only thing you can do at the moment and keep exercising.

And thank you for your kind comments.

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Hi mate. Thanks for your reply. I do get night time erections, but they are painful. The scar line is sore & the length isn’t even half the length it used to be. I can feel the base of the erection in my groin. Had the surgery due to balanitis.

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That's good man at least it shows it is working it will take time it has only been 3 months I think if you give it another few months and see how it goes. keep exercising use lots of lube something like coconut oil or Bio-Oil. hopefully your length will return at 8 inches erect you are well above the average. Did you have the balanitis long term was there any scarring or phimosis?

Hi think your Willy looks brill good job all the best

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Thank you 😊

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Hello MrMac, Nice looking circumcision. The cut line is very circular. Healing looks excellent.

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Hey thanks Man it's been a few years now since I was circumcised it did heal up quite well I think. I was lucky with the doctor I had he was very knowledgeable and had a good understanding of the procedure. I have to say I am very happy with my results but it does take time for everything to settle down.

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uncutforesk in reply to MrMac99

Hello MrMac, I'm real happy for you. Looks like you had an excellent surgeon that knew what he was doing.

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Your scrotal tissue is very nice. It’s so smooth :)

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Cheers Man 🙂

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What would of happened if they gave you a high and tight circumcision?

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MrMac99 in reply to At1012

Hi, because of the LS I had it affected most of my inner foreskin (mucous membrane) and frenulum if I had a high and tight cut they may not have removed all of the LS from my inner foreskin although I do still have about 1 to 1 and 1/2 cm so it's not a super low cut kind of in-between. I think I'm closer to a low and tight cut because I don't have much bunching behind my glans when I am really flaccid like in the second photo. Hope this answers your question👍

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At1012 in reply to MrMac99

Would coconut oil cure that condition or the bio oil. Was there something you could have done to avoid the surgery? Based on your knowledge now? You are very knowledgable, I always like reading your posts as they are so positive and informative. It always seems like after a man gets circumcised, he becomes more knowledgable in general. Uncut guys don’t seem to understand their anatomy Until after they get cut.

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Hi, no neither coconut oil or bio oil would cure this condition. I had the option of staying on steroid creams to manage the condition over a long period of time but I felt that this was not going to solve the problem in the long run. the condition could spread to my urethra and cause further problems in the long term so I decided to have the circumcision in the hope that it would be curative so far so good. Thank you for your kind words I don't know if I am that knowledgeable I think it's just as you get older you experienced more in life.

64 years of age and a circumcision done 10 hours ago, to be honest I`ve had no pain as such just a stinging feeling whilst peeing, had it done because of phimosis and was mainly worried

about cleanliness cause unable to clean the head at all. Maybe during the night pain and discomfort will occur, with the dressing still on haven`t yet seen the outcome, hopefully my cat won`t pounce on top of me during the night, that just might be a wee tad painful!

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Try to empty your bladder as much as possible before you go to bed and don't drink anything after about 8 PM. That will help with the nocturnal erections (which will not be any fun for a couple of weeks).

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Hi, fair play Man. it can sting and could even ache the first night if it's too uncomfortable take a painkiller and try keep pussy away sorry couldn't help it😁 that's good advice xhardwarex posted also if you try to sleep in a fetal position with your knees forward on your side this will help with the Night-Time erections. It is important to be able to clean underneath your foreskin how long have you suffered with phimosis?

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Hi mate

As a hetro man, I am jealous! You have a great penis. Looks good cut.

Any drawbacks? I read sex isn't as good. But I guess that's BS?

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Hi Man, thanks for that. I find everything works just fine and it still feels great there is not much difference really for me anyhow. I did lose some of the hypersensitivity of the glans but that's fine it just means I last longer now and of course it's not as good with a condom but sure that never was anyway. 😊

Are you thinking about having it done?

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Jnt131 in reply to MrMac99

That's great to know.

I an a gym goer and use shower facilities. I hate the look of my dick currently but if I get as good a look as you have cut. I'll show it off 😂😂

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MrMac99 in reply to Jnt131

I go to the gym and pool as well I don't have any problems with showing him off😂 I wouldn't worry too much about how your looks man I really don't think any of the guys in the changing room will really care that much. they are probably more worried about there own😁

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Jnt131 in reply to MrMac99

Very true haha

Looking good mate, I’d be happy having it done if it looked as good. Surgery was done very well.

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Hi Man, cheers for that. I see from your post you are having problems with phimosis you should consult with your GP.

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I’m trying to work up the courage, they have prescribed cream previously but I have to many unanswered questions lol

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It can be a bit daunting going it's never as bad as you imagine though. how long have you had phimosis for, did the cream your GP gave you help at all?

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Hi Mr Mac, just came cross this site and appreciate replies you've given re circumcision. I've just been diagnosed with LS a couple of weeks ago and feel pretty down about it. Just started a 3 month course of Dermavate. Did you try Dermavate or would you recommend circumcision regardless of any other treatment. I have scarring on inner foreskin. Would appreciate any advice from someone who has been through what i'm now experiencing.

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MrMac99 in reply to guitar22

Hi Man, sorry for the late reply and sorry to hear you have been diagnosed with LS it can be quite stressful and depressing but don't worry too much everything will work out. I don't know your history that much other than you have some scarring on your inner foreskin if it's not too advanced definitely try the dermavate. I didn't use that particular cream but I did try a different steroid creams it did help but when I stopped the LS would return it never really cleared it completely. Circumcision in the long run is probably something you will need to consider take your time and don't rush into it you will need to do your research on the condition and weigh up the pros and cons of circumcision and the condition. if however you have scarring on your glans and around your meatus you would need to seriously consider it. Best thing is to keep in contact with your GP and consultant urologist.

Hope this helps take care

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I was prescribed Dermovate and it was at the time one of the strongest topical steroid creams available. It was a bit worrying reading the patient information leaflet as it said very clearly, “Do not apply to the genitals”

I trusted my urologist’s judgement although I used it as little as possible though. My advice is to be careful with it and don’t over-apply.

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I was treated with CO2 peeling on the glans and circ due two problems, bxo and short frenulum (I do know if this cause bxo but sure it influenced). So if you do not have problem with frenulum or skin breaks, first exhaust all the options before the last one: circ. The peeling resolved partially my problem but it is still working and circ removed the bad skin on frenulum. So I hope bxo subside with both circ and peeling.

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Hi, most cases of BXO are resolve with circumcision so hopefully your two problems are fixed now you may still need some steroid cream for a short period. The frenulum can be a problem area I think BXO can start there if there is any damage caused to the frenulum in my cases I don't know if the BXO was there before I noticed the first tare or not but thankfully my circumcision has resolved it so far. 🤞🏻

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Mefirts in reply to MrMac99

Thank you for your prompt comment. My doctor said a second peeling would be able needed. I am waiting to improve scarline and swelling, then I will meet the doctor again. What steroid cream did you use? Perhaps it can work for the remains patch on glands. Best regards.

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Hi. I think it was fluticasone cream but it was awhile ago. you doctor will advise you on the best options for you keep in contact with them. now that you are circumcised hopefully any remaining BXO will clear up in time.

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Thank you, yes, I will wait more time. Now I have just 3 and 1/2 months being circumcised. So I expect white spot on glans desappear with time. I plan to wait up to six months before going to doctor. Regards.

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I'd never heard of CO2 peeling on the glans before, was it successful and what's the healing process like? It also sounds somewhat uncomfortable and I'm assuming you get a local anaesthetic shot to cope?

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It was partially successful. It reduced the white spots on the glans but not completely. It was not painful since it was done same moment after circ and I had anesthesia. It was not unconfortable, glans heal faster than scar line. It healed well with some days but scar line is still healing.

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Thanks so much for your reply Mac, you're helping a lot of guys with your thoughtful replies.

I have been highly stressed after reading info regarding the disease on the net and your "everything will work out" helps a lot. I have no scarring on glans and meatus that I can see. Just scarring around half the inner foreskin. The glans looks more of a brownish colour in parts. I'd been trying to get to the bottom of what was going on for the past couple of years, but have been let down by my doctor, STI clinic and more recently my Dermo who didn't pick up on what was going on either. I made the diagnosis myself after reading info on the net, then went to a higher grade S/health clinic who confirmed LS. The clinic suggested autoimmune probs, but this appears to be more in women than men. I hope you don't mind if I ask further questions at some point... you're doing us all proud over something that is extremely worrying. Take care of yourself..

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That's no bother Man I understand your worry I was there to. Sometimes Dr Google doesn't help you always see the worst case scenarios but it is not always that bad. the disease is quite slow progressing I had it probably two years before I did anything about it. I had quite a bit of LS on my foreskin & frenulum what was left of it I had some on my glans as well so circumcision was the best option for me. I would try the steroid cream and see how that goes it probably won't get rid of it but it may be managed, do you have any phimosis with it? down the road though you may need to have the circumcision done. If you have any other questions that's no problem.

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guitar22 in reply to MrMac99

Hi Mac, I had the start of phimosis with some tightening. Ive only been using the Dermovate barely a week but there does appear to be improvements already with softening and loosening of the band. I'm not sure if my frenulum has LS or not.. they tend to say very little at appointments and just tell you to follow the procedure. Do you have any idea why yours started..? Do you have any autoimmune probs or other skin disorders. I'm itching all over, but could just be the stress. How do you feel 6 years down the line - does it affect you psychologically these days or do you feel free from the disease. Thanks in advance..

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That's good news the steroid cream is improving things hopefully it will continue just a word of caution as User1957 suggest use it sparingly and if things continues to improve you will need to reduce the use slowly with the advice of your Doctor. I've no idea why I develop this condition. I don't think there is any definitive caused the only thing that I suspect is my frenulum was always a little tight, and it tend to start there at first and it slowly spread out i also think that stress doesn't help it either. I feel fine after almost 7 years now I do feel free of it But I do keep an eye out just in case it comes back. I feel luck it has turned out well for me so far 🤞🏻

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Thanks Mac, there is professional info on the net saying to ignore the warning of using Dermovate on genitals. It's fine, but use sparingly and cut down usage gradually over the 3 month recommended period. I'm new to this but have researched a lot of info on the net... often freaking myself out. I had an opp on my frenulum to release the foreskin when I was around 10 years old, but it still always felt tight. May have added to my prob... I also thought stress could add to the mix. I'm pleased your experience turned out well and you feel free of the problem. You've helped me over the past few days Mac, i'm very grateful.

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Hey Man, your GP will not prescribe something if he thought it was going to make things worse using a strong steroid cream is one of the recommended treatments for LS it would be recommended to use very sparingly and reduce over time. if it does improve the LS for you You may need to just use it once or twice a week to maintain. see how it goes but if it's not improving don't let it get too bad. I also had a tight frenulum and I feel it started there so maybe it has something to do with that. I don't think the doctor's really know how it starts it's just something that some guys can get.

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Cheers Mac, I think my symptoms are very similar to what yours were... I think I may have slight sign of LS on the glans... not quite sure. The Phimosis band has softened and loosened up in a week, so quite an improvement. The clinic said I should be able to maintain things using cream once/twice a month, but I like the idea of getting rid as you've done. I did ask previously if you had any autoimmune disorders... i'm a pro musician and appear to have some rheumatoid arthritis in my fingers, which is worrying….also experiencing Seborrheic Dermatitis and itchy skin. It all seems to relate to inflammation of the skin, so just wondered if you've experienced any of these symptoms..?

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Hi Man, that's good you have seen a improvement the steroid cream will help but it won't really get rid of the condition completely it will possibly help to maintain it from getting worse. Once or twice a month would seem quite spaced out I would think once or twice a week would be more realistic. If it has spread to your glans depending on how severe you may need to consider having a circumcision. I don't think I have any autoimmune disorders but LS could be classed as one doctors are not sure what causes it. I would have some skin sensitivity and allergies I did have a reaction to medication last October which was quite bad it took months for my skin to come back normal again I still have marks in my nails from it. Are you famous musician? 😊

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Hi Mac, just on my PC and your message came through. My steroid cream course is every night for 1 month, every other night for 2nd month, twice a week for third month... then cut down to twice a month, sorry for the confusion. I'm guessing i'll eventually have to go for the "circ" which worries me as I've read many mixed reviews, some very negative. You seem very happy with your result which gives me some faith. I can't deny this whole thing has scared me... i'm very up and down in myself, and I know you've been there yourself.

Any positive info regarding being Circ'd would be much appreciated. I'm not a particularly famous musician, but have played all over the world and done over 3000 gigs. It's been a great life so i'm just hoping i'm going to come out of this little episode ok. Thanks as always..

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MrMac99 in reply to guitar22

That looks like a good plan see how you get on you have already seen an improvement that is positive. Yes having a circumcision is a worry there can be a lot of mix reviews and outcomes. mine has turned out quite well and I do prefer it now to before but that's just me maybe as I get older it will change for me but I am quite happy at the moment. it is quite a worrying time for you and I have been there. the biggest factor for me deciding to have it done was I just couldn't deal with the not knowing if it was going to clear up. it always came back to the fact that circumcision is almost always curative so I took the chance.

It sounds like you have had an interesting time travelling the world and playing gigs I'm sure you have some interesting stories to tell and have played with many famous people.

This is just another bump in the road you will have many of them along the journey.

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Rey-01 in reply to guitar22

The surgery overall is super positive. The best is that everything is so clean and it does not smell any more. That is a big upgrade and even though I had some issues, I recommend it 100%

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Thanks for reply Rey. Great that you recommend being circ'd... although I thought from your posts you were having a few probs.? I keep reading that masturbation sucks after the procedure. Just wondered what you and Mac have to say about that.!

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I wouldn't say it sucks completely😊 it's just a bit different you would need to use lube at first anyway for me it's still very pleasurable.

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Thank you for sharing MrMac.

I am seeing a doctor next week, considering circumcision. I thought partial first. I see they removed your frenulum also. Why? Didn't you loose much sensitivity?

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Rey-01 in reply to martintrente

During the surgery they removed mine and believe me, I lose really a lot my sensitivity...

Honestly, I still dont know why they did it since it was fine and never had an issue with it. And even worse since the doctor built a fake frenulum with some skin. So basically I lose sensitivity and did not gain on the aesthetic...

I did it 4 months ago, so I would expect to improve.

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Hi Man, well being honest I did lose sensitivity but saying that everything is still very pleasurable for me I would have more control and last longer with a much stronger climax. The frenulum is a very sensitive area and I suppose I do miss that but I have gained in other areas so it is a compromise for me it's not a problem I feel it was too sensitive before. if you have a circumcision you do need to lose some sensitivity to function and do your daily activities and wearing clothes if not it would be too uncomfortable. I suppose everybody is different in what there results are.

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guitar22 in reply to MrMac99

Interestingly since I discovered I had LS a couple of weeks ago I've kept my foreskin back in the daytime. I actually forget it's pulled back much of the time..... so just testing the waters I guess. I also thought it could help to stop LS on the glans.

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Yes that is a very good idea the LS will not like the dryer condition when you keep the foreskin retracted. I also did this and found it to help and before my circumcision I also kept the foreskin retracted I found it really helped with the glans hyper sensitivity afterwards that so many guys suffer following circumcision.

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Hey Man, do you find it hard to keep the foreskin retracted during the day I found it nearly impossible I had to readjust it during the day several times.

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No Mac, no problem keeping it back although it can slip forward once in a while without me realising it. Here's a question... if you could go back to being intact and have no health issues - would you do it.?

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Just to be clearer on earlier question Mac... would you rather be circ'd or intact now you've experienced both.

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Hey that's a really good question the short answer is no I wouldn't go back to being intact now after experiencing both ways. but I wouldn't have even thought about having the circumcision before when I had no problems it was only when I started having problems that I started thinking about it I'm glad now I made the right decision and have not looked back since.

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That's really great to know Mac... it sounds like something that started out very worrying ended up being a bit of a bonus. Did you ever look into laser treatment for the LS. There have been some good reports, but I think there would be more info about it if it was very successful. I believe you have to go private for the treatment.

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MrMac99 in reply to guitar22

Hey Man, at the time there wasn't much information about laser treatment so I didn't really look into it that much, at the time it seemed for a male circumcision was the treatment of choice when the steroid cream didn't really help. I have updated my post I have now included a photo of my frenulum sometime before my circumcision you may be interested.

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guitar22 in reply to MrMac99

Thanks for posting that photo Mac, looks similar to mine but much whiter on the glans. Did you have Phimosis at that stage.?

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MrMac99 in reply to guitar22

Hey Man that's no bother. Mine is much whiter or did you mean yours is? At that time I didn't have phimosis but it was tight and uncomfortable eventually I did have balanitis with phimosis causing tightness with phimotic ring scarring.

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guitar22 in reply to MrMac99

Hi Mac, sorry I didn't get back earlier after your last message. Your LS was much whiter than mine on the glans... not sure if I have it on the glans or not. Did your circ get rid of the whiteness on your glans and the inner foreskin scarring.? I'm guessing you had a full circ including inner foreskin and frenulum. Interesting that some sites on the net say circumcision doesn't cure LS, and other sites say it does in around 90% of men if it's confined to the prepuce and glans. Hope you're well..

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MrMac99 in reply to guitar22

Hey Man, no bother yes the circ did clear up the whiteness on my glans it did take some time for it to fade. I would know myself where it was. Yes I had a full circumcision most of my Inner foreskin was removed and frenulum. I think if you have the circumcision early enough you would have a good outcome with a high success rate. It is something that can come back so you still have to be vigilant. it can be serious if it is left too long it can affect your urethra with scaring which would need more invasive surgery.

So how is it going for you have things improved is the steroid cream working well?

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guitar22 in reply to MrMac99

Hi Mac, the steroid cream softened and loosened up the scarred area and band in the first 3/4 days and stopped soreness... but I don't like the look of the scarring. I've never had a prob retracting foreskin so maybe the phimosis is in the earlier stage.

Did you have scarring on the inner foreskin.? I'm guessing you don't have to use any steroid creams now.? I hope you're clear for life..

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MrMac99 in reply to guitar22

Hey, that's good the steroid is improving things for you it should really help with the phimosis as well it can take some time for the scarring to reduce and it may never completely go.

I did have quite a bit of scarring on my inner foreskin it was removed with the circumcision. I did have some patches on my glans and I did use some steroid cream after the circumcision healed for maybe two weeks I haven't needed to use any since so hopefully I'll be clear for good.

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guitar22 in reply to MrMac99

Hi Mac, sent a message a few days ago but didn't hear back so hope i'm not asking too many questions. I have hospital appointment next week with urologist and it looks like it could be decision time for me. I will mention low and tight cut due to the LS and listen to what the uro says also. I hope I can look back in a couple of years and feel as positive about the outcome as you have..

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MrMac99 in reply to guitar22

Hi Man, sorry maybe I missed it my last reply to you was on Monty 555 post. it's not a problem don't ever think that sometimes I'm just a bit slow to reply.

That's good you have your appointment coming up see what they have to say you don't have to make the decision there and then if you're not ready get all the info first. if they suspect LS they usually recommend a low and tight to cut they perfer for your glans to be fully exposed all the time. How are things going with you now has the cream improved the LS?

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guitar22 in reply to MrMac99

Hi Mac, I just looked at message board and can't see my question so i'm guessing it didn't go out around 3/4 days ago... anyway thanks for reply as always.

Yes the cream has improved things and lessened the LS slightly, but still a little sore at times. It can be a frustrating condition, but i'm only 1 month in on the 3 month treatment. I won't be going for the circ at my appointment next week and i'm surprised they suggested it in a letter I received. I need to have a good chat first.!

Re questions...I asked if you still see your doctor on a regular basis regarding the LS or do you just keep a check on things yourself. Also did the LS experience leave any ongoing psychological sexual problems, or do you feel back to normal these days.

Always good to hear from you, and I hope if any new worried guys come onto the site they can read our posts for some help and reassurance. I read one section where the guys were all happy and some absolutely loving their circ's which helps us guys who still have the worries. Cheers Mac..

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MrMac99 in reply to guitar22

Hey Man, that's good the cream is helping I wonder when you stop what will happen I suspect it will return it's not something you need to rush into you are at the early stages the condition only progressive slowly and the steroid cream is slowing it down have a good chat first.

To your question I have no check ups anymore for LS but maybe my GP check it when examining me and says nothing i just keep an eye on it myself. I can't say it doesn't affect you psychologically it can be a difficult time dealing with it. it doesn't affect me sexually or with my confidence I actually feel I am more confident now being circumcised. it is something that is in the past but it's not something you would forget about it was a major changing point in my life physically and probably mentally.

Hopefully this will help some guys it can be a difficult decision to come to some guys have difficulties afterwards and other guys love it everybody is different I suppose. All the best for now

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guitar22 in reply to MrMac99

Your replies are great Mac, and fantastic to know the LS is in the past for you.

I've been shaken up at times with the whole thing and it feels a bit life changing for me also. Great to hear that's it's given you more confidence.

The answer is to turn anything negative that comes into our lives into a positive... I think you've done that.

You've helped me a lot Man... cheers for now.

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MrMac99 in reply to guitar22

Hey Man, my replies I don't know about that but I suppose I understand as I have been there. And that is so true about the negative things that come our way they need to be turned into positivity.

I hope I have helped This forum is a very good platform for support and to share knowledge and experiences. All the best for now.

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It appears very good man, you should be proud, hope mine will look like that soon. I had my surgery 4 months ago. In my case the doctor told me that he would keep the frenulum, but when I woke up it was no longer there and he built a sort of false frenulum with some skin. Not nice at all. Unfortunately the sensitivity went off like 55% if not more and honestly, I would have prefer to have it plane as yours rather than having this fake frenulum without sensitivity. What are your thoughts on this? Is there a way I can upload a pic so that you can see yourself?

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MrMac99 in reply to Rey-01

Hi Rey, thanks for the compliment. Sorry to hear your frenulum was removed when you didn't want it removed but maybe during the surgery there was a problem and your surgeon had to remove it no surgery is always straightforward. If you don't like the look of it you can always have it removed if they sent it to me he is gone I think I would if it were me. it has only been 4 months so it is still early days for you maybe give it a bit more time.

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The result looks great

And you're completely satisfied with what you have, that feels great.

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MrMac99 in reply to blackman79

Cheers I am very satisfied with what I have I sopose every guy would like to be bigger but it may do 🙄 I think. I'm grateful I don't have LS anymore.

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user12931

did u notice a change in size after u were circumcised?

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MrMac99 in reply to user12931

Hi, at first yes I did noticed it did look smaller erect and flaccid I think I missed the foreskin overhang as well. but gradually over time the length Returned both erect and flaccid I think the skin was quite tight and it needed to stretch to allow for expansion. My glans also flared out slightly as well.

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UKlad1970 in reply to MrMac99

This gives me hope!

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user12931

most people are saying it will eventually come back but I still don’t see how it’s gonna come back . Also Did u notice a change in length when flaccid or erected or both ?

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user12931

thanks for the reply ! I’m also feeling that when erected it feels as if It’s not erected fully so just wondering if it’s something I should be worried about ?

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MrMac99 in reply to user12931

I presume you have been circumcised recently it is normal for it to feel that way it should improve in time when the skin stretches. when you are healed enough you should use a little oil or moisturiser to massage this will help to soften the scar and stretch the skin

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user12931

yeah I’m on my 6th day and everything else seems to be fine it’s just i wouldn’t consider my penis big so losing length worries me a bit but thanks for the help man !

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MrMac99 in reply to user12931

Your still at a very early stage Man give it 6 months you won't know yourself. I'm a very average size so I was worried as well but eventually it came back to normal or just average I should say😁

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user12931

Thanks a lot for the help man . Means a lot ❤️

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Fernz12

I hope mine looks like that in six years, im on day 18 and im frustrated that I can't use it yet. I still have a few stitches left and the bottom right is still a bit swollen.

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MrMac99 in reply to Fernz12

Hi it's early day's Man in 6 months you will be all good. we all heal differently in a few more week you should be ok to try him out. The swelling can take time to go and may even come and go as you start using you penis. Have you tried to masturbate yet? That migh ease some frustration just use your fingers on the glans with some lubrication.

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Fernz12 in reply to MrMac99

Hello, 6 months sounds like a long time from now and I’m counting the days. I don’t want to use it until the stitches fall off and the swelling dies down a bit . I am super horny and I get my night erections but I don’t do much about it. I’m just a little scared to mess it up

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MrMac99 in reply to Fernz12

Hopefully in a few more weeks you'll be good to go but definitely don't go back to soon. You could try a very gentle massage with just your fingers on the glans only and stay away from your scar and any stitches use a little moisturiser or Bio-Oil as lub it won't take long. but only if your wound are healed enough.

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Fernz12 in reply to MrMac99

Yea I think they are pretty good just the few stitches and the swelling on the bottom right. I’m sure I’ll have a big load when the time is right

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MrMac99 in reply to Fernz12

The swelling and stitches will go in time once the stitches have gone the healing will be much faster. You could try washing with some salted water in a small bowl twice the day salt is good for healing

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WalkingOtter537

Hey man I was circumcised when I was 8 but I feel likey glans are a little more greyish nowadays. Do you think circumcised man can have bxo or LS?

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CuriousQ in reply to WalkingOtter537

They can but I think it's rare. You might just be dry? If you're worried talk to your doctor.

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MrMac99 in reply to WalkingOtter537

Hi, yes it can happen but it would be quite rare for a circumcised guy who was cut at a young age to develop LS. Can I ask if you were circumcised for medical reasons? For a guy who is circumcised a long time the skin can be quite pale in colour especially when flaccid. If you are concerned about it you should ask your doctor.

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WalkingOtter537 in reply to MrMac99

I had phimosis but my family was unaware. I circumcised when I was 8 and I am a Muslim so it was for religious purposes.

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MrMac99 in reply to WalkingOtter537

Hi, it can be Common to have phimosis at a young age it usually rectifies itself as you get older. but it can be a problem if there are infections. Your circumcision was for your religious beliefs which is fine. If you are concerned about the discoloration on your glans you should seek the advice of your doctor even if it's only for your peace of mind.

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Overthinker_99

Hi man, your circ looks awesome, I admire how you kicked LS in the ass, you’re a fighter. I also had/have LS/BXO in my penis for which I got circumcised 6 weeks ago. My cut is quite similar to yours, maybe closer to the corona of the glans, and although there is some swelling left, I can tell there is and there will be some bunching of skin when totally flaccid, since I’m definitely a grower. Is this a suitable situation for LS?

On the other hand, I applied a corticosteroid ointment only on the scar for the first weeks, but my doc recommended to stop its use for two weeks and then use it again. Before this I had been applying a vitamin B5 moisturizer on my scrotum and my doc said I could use it on my scar line to help it heal faster and also on the glans to aid in the dryness I carry. I moisturize my penis twice a day with Cicaplast Baume B5 from La Roche Posay, is this ok? not actually contributing to LS’ survival? I wanted to make sure I’m doing everything I can to make it disappear and not come back. Please guide me. Cheers.

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MrMac99 in reply to Overthinker_99

Hey Man cheers for that. Sorry to hear you had LS now that you have been circumcised it should clear up completely. it will take some time for you to heal up and all the swelling to go. Do you have any discoloration on the glans or foreskin now? Or is it gone

any bunching up behind the glans when flaccid shouldn't cause any problems with the LS coming back it didn't for me anyway.

Your doctor seems to have a good understanding of the condition I would follow there instructions. It was good to use some steroid cream at first but I would stop and see how it goes but if you need to use it just a little. I would Definitely keep using the B5 moisturiser it will help. I think you are doing everything right it's just a wait and see how it goes hopefully you are finished with LS now.

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Overthinker_99 in reply to MrMac99

Thank you so much for your quick reply. Yes, I still have most of the discoloration from pre op on the glans, and particularly around the meatus. The inner foreskin appears to be fully clean from it.

So I proceed with the moisturizer, what about adding some coconut oil too?

So you recommend not applying the corticosteroid on the glans? I had used hydrocortisone for 5 months in a row because of the lockdown and not knowing how to proceed, I kinda want to stay away from it, at least on the glans.

Also, my doc told me to wash the whole penis with neutral no-fragrance glycerin soap daily, but I find it dries up not only the penis but between my fingers as well, and my skin in general. Is it okay to never apply soap and gently wash it with water? Thanks again for your time. Cheers.

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MrMac99 in reply to Overthinker_99

Hi when you still have some discoloration on the glans you will probably need to continue to use the steroid cream and follow your doctor's advice you may need to cut back slowly. Hopefully the discoloration will fade in time but you may always have some scarring. so you were circumcised 6 weeks ago it's still early days for you things should improve in time . You could use some coconut oil if you want I found it a little messy the B5 moisturiser I think would be good. you can just wash with water and not use any soap sometimes it can irritate the skin you can get an emollient wash which would moisturised skin and gently clean. I generally just use shower gel now and make sure to wash everything of completely with water an then a little moisturiser.

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Overthinker_99 in reply to MrMac99

My doc just told me to apply the corticosteroid on the scar in two weeks time, not on the glans, he said the long keratinization process makes it tough for LS to prevail so it will heal just by being exposed to the air and the passing of time. What you’re telling me makes me want to go check it with my dermatologist, since he just told me to leave the glans alone besides using moisturizer.

For how long did you apply the steroid cream on the glans post op?

There’s no issue in washing it gently with water only, right?

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MrMac99 in reply to Overthinker_99

Yes your doctor is correct the keratinization process should prevent it from getting worse and hopefully the pink colour will return to the area. you should go with the advice of your doctor he seems to understand the condition but do keep an eye on it you don't want it to spread the the urethra. I only used a little steroid cream for a couple of weeks maybe I only had a small amount of LS on my glans which cleared up eventually. I used some Bio-Oil and moisturiser.

Yeah there's no problem washing with just water but do moisturise after as just using water can cause dryness as well.

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Overthinker_99 in reply to MrMac99

Ok, I truly value the information you’re providing. One last thing, what do you think about water based lube? I have the KY one.

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MrMac99 in reply to Overthinker_99

Yeah I use KY myself find it good it tends to dry up or get absorbed quickly I find.

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Overthinker_99 in reply to MrMac99

So you use it but it doesn't work nicely for you? What about saliva? is it ok for at least personal enjoyment?

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MrMac99 in reply to Overthinker_99

If having sex KY is fine especially for both people. but if it's just a wank sometimes I just use some moisturising lotion so you're getting the two jobs done 😊

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Overthinker_99

I see, it seems to dry up pretty fast, I like adding a bit of saliva when this happens and it feels awesome, is saliva safe to use with LS to wank if I clean it afterwards?

My scar itches a little on a spot on the left side, is this normal almost 7 weeks post op?

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MrMac99 in reply to Overthinker_99

Yeah sure saliva is like a natural lube been used since the Dawn of time it should be fine.

You are still healing so it's normal for the scar especially after sex or masturbation you could have swelling and redness as well.

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Ok then, thank you. See you around.

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Hrbman

Hi there, Mr Mac. Just want to echo the sentiments made by other guys here in saying that I greatly appreciate the time and thoughtful responses you have provided. They are truely invaluable as much of what is provided by way of the medical profession is almost always rushed and incomplete.

My battle with BXO started a little over 4 yrs ago. I struggled with the progression of the disease and the inability of the GP (saw a few) to make an accurate diagnosis. All of them thought it was fungal based Balanitis. It wasn't until I saw a Urologist that the BXO was identified.

Unfortunately, by that time, I had developed Sclerotic plaque on glans as well as well established inflammation on glans and foreskin. Like others, the steroid cream only seemed to be a temporary fix (always crept back).

After waying the pros and cons, like you, I decided to have the op done. I had a low and tight style done as well with frenulum left intact.

My question is that even after 3 yrs, everything has not returned to normal. Plaque still remains on top side of glans (albeit somewhat faded now), along with stubborn residual inflammation on glans. Do you believe that steroid cream should be considered? I haven't used anything since the op. I'm not sure why my progress is taking so long. I'm 41 now, so could be slower to heal. I'm aware that steroid cream will thin the skin so theres that to consider.

Also, I'm at odds with the fact that with an erection, the scrotal skin seems to ride way up on the shaft which interferes with sex. This really hasn't changed in all the time that's past since the op. Wondering if your familiar at all with what I've described here. Did you experience this difficulty? Once again, I thank you for your time. Sorry for the Xtra long post.

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MrMac99 in reply to Hrbman

Hi Hrbman. thank you for the kind words and encouragement I do hope this posted has help some guys going through what can be a difficult time with BXO or LS.I'm sorry to hear about your struggle with BXO. some of the GP 's are not that familiar with the condition it's really a urologist or dermatologist that specialise in this condition your GP should have referred you after your second visit with them. Anyway sometimes the discoloration on the skin can unfortunately remain. I presume the condition has not spread anymore since your circumcision? Are the plaque near your meatus? I think you probably should have it checked with a dermatologist and maybe a mild steroid cream for a short period of time to see if it helps would be no harm.

As for the scrotal webbing this can happen after a circumcision when you are cut relatively tightly. it doesn't seem to affect me that much I would have some hair's on my shaft all right🙄. I think the webbing should be a easy fix for any good surgeon if you want to have it sorted.

Thanks again for the kind words it helps to talk about things even if it's just from our own experiences.

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Mr Mac you are so right. It most certainly does help to discuss these things with others who have been through it. I am grateful for your time and your words. You are a highly valued member of this online community.

For me, as far as the plaque is concerned, it is confined to the top of the glans toward the back (semi circular band near the corona) I believe it has not advanced since the circumcision. As I mentioned, it has faded somewhat but most certainly has not gone away. I did consult with a dermatologist about a year ago and she said that it was likely going to remain as a permanent scar. This opinion, however, conflicted with what my urologist passed on as he was believing everything (plaque and inflammation) would be removed by the body in 3-4 months. Obviously, this did not happen. Not even close.

I'm aware that as people we are broken up into different groups with regard to the rate of healing our bodies are capable of. When I returned to the urologist with my ongoing concerns after 8 months, he explained that some men are fast, medium, and then slower healers. With me definitely being in the latter camp. The longest case he knew of took 1.5 years to clear (plaque and all) I'm at almost 3 yrs which is why I'm here talking with you- at a state of unknowing around why my case remains unresolved.

You mentioned perhaps a short stint with a mild steroid cream. I picked up some hydrocortisone 1% cream recently. I believe it fits the description of a more mild topical. Does that jive with your knowledge? I'm just apprehensive to put steroids on the glans, as in the past (pre op) it tended to cause the inflammation to get really pissed off. But, I'm thinking, now that the environment has changed, (foreskin removed) the response could be different.

Thanks for your thoughts on the scrotal webbing issue. I included concern in my chat with the surgeon/urologist back at the 8 month mark and he indicated that he was familiar with what I was referring to and believed it would diminish in about a year. That, again, has not taken place. It is a problem for me, as it prevents a "clean" up and down motion along the length of the shaft. Also, I believe, that the prickly hairs from the scrotum irritate my partner's vagina. It really seems to be prohibiting enjoyable sex. I was under the impression that the body just needed more time to get to a better place with this, but that belief has begun to fade as time continues to pass without any improvement. Thank you for your insight. I didn't consider that a surgical option might exist. Just like in your case how you mentioned you were unhappy with an aspect of the result you received and acted on it by getting a surgical touchup.

Well, that was a pretty heavy download from my mind. I apologize for this lengthy piece of commentary, but there really is no one out there for me where I can talk about these issues with stress free freedom of thought. Like I stated previously, my experience has been that when you step into the office of a med professional the clock is ticking. They offer you a peace meal response and a vibe that seems to be interested in pushing you out the door. I get stressed out easily and often leave without feeling like I got what I needed in order to feel better about this. It seems that the advice can change depending on who you talk to.

Mr Mac, thank you again for being on the other end of my concerns. You are a breath of fresh air.

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MrMac99 in reply to Hrbman

Hi Hrbman. That's great it hasn't spread the circumcision has stop the BXO in its tracks unfortunately you still have some discoloration on your glans at this stage after 3 years the dermatologist you were with is probably right it may never go completely. I can't advise you on using the hydrocortisone cream this is your decision and your doctor's advice would be best. I did use some shortly after I had healed from the circumcision I thought it would help as I read somewhere it can be used afterwards for a short period. to this day if I look closely I can still see some discoloration on my glans as well but it doesn't worry me now as it hasn't changed 🤞🏻.

As for the scrotal webbing if this concerns you I think I would have it sorted I'm sure a good surgeon would be able to fix it and maybe advised you and the discoloration on the glans as well probably going private would be your best option I'm not sure if you're in the UK or not. I think you mentioned your frenulum is still intact the discoloration on the glans is it close to it?

I know what you mean about going to the specialist or doctors sometimes you feel you left without asking some question are getting a definite answer don't be afraid to write down your questions and bring down with you.

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Hrbman in reply to MrMac99

Hi again, Mr Mac. It is truly reassuring to get your feedback. Thank you again for taking the time.

I agree with your stance. Think I'll hold off on the steroid cream until I've received a second opinion. Your thoughts on suggesting a private consult sound like a wise way to go. There is a private practice clinic here (Victoria, BC, CAN) that specializes in circumcision. My feeling at this point is that it could be useful to gain some greater understanding into this matter from a professional who is experienced with the disease and the surgery. I believe this follow up could provide me with the peace of mind that I seek.

The discoloration on my glans is not near the frenulum. It is concentrated on the top of the glans toward the middle/back. This affected area has largely been where the disease has chosen to reside. And now that the affected foreskin is out of the picture, it's last stand.

Thank you for the heads up around bringing in a written down list of questions with me when I sit down with the doc. I know that will be of assistance when it counts. Sound advice, Mr Mac.

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MrMac99 in reply to Hrbman

Hay Hrbman, that sounds like a plan of action I hope you will get more insight into the condition from the doctor at the clinic. Hopefully they can advise you on the scrotal webbing as well. I think your BXO is in remission even though you still have some discoloration I wouldn't worry too much about it hopefully you won't ever have problems with it again. Do let us know how you get on with the clinic.

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MrMac99 in reply to Hrbman

Hi Hrbman just wondering if you had any updates on the lichen sclerosus on your glans has it improved or is it still the same? And if you see any specialist after and what did they recommend?

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Hrbman in reply to MrMac99

Hi MrMac, great to hear from you, my man. Sorry I let so much time pass without an update.

I'm pleased to report that the LS on the glans of my penis has subsided somewhat over the course of this last year. It's still apparent but not as red and angry looking as before. Decided not to apply any further topical, as my doctor suggested we just continue to allow the body to remove the damage on its own over time. Advice that I'm ok with following for the time being but I do awknowlege that the doc's understanding of this condition was limited (explained that's he's primarily a cancer urologist).

It's frustrating because the progress is very slow. No quick fix here. It's been 4 years since the circ and I'm still dealing with glans that show unmistakable residual LS skin damage (remaining plaque and inflammation).

However, I have recently looked into alternative therapies available for this disease. One of those (which seems promising) is PRP Therapy. Offered through a nearby private male health clinic and skin care center, Platelet Rich Plasma (PRP) treatment is a "simple and near painless, well tolerated procedure that involves the injection of platelet rich plasma derived from the patient's own blood which has shown promise in stimulating regeneration of blood vessels, nerves and tissues. There is encouraging scientific data that shows the potential ability and safety of PRP Therapy in improving the health and functioning of penile tissue." I thought it might be useful to get another point of view on this from a different source, seeing as these therapies are not offered through the conventional door. PRP Therapy also seems to be used in cases such as mine (stubborn LS remaining on glans despite circ having taken place previously).

Presently though, I'm moving on the other related issue being the penile scrotal webbing that I ended up with as a consequence of the circ. I decided to take your advice and "get that sorted" as it is a source of constant worry and stress for me. As I described in an earlier exchange, both the aesthetics and the functioning of my penis have been undesirably altered such that I feel sexually disabled now. I decided to look into having the corrective surgery done so that I can hopefully get past this current obstacle. Life, I figured, is just too short to be dealing with constant unhappiness as it relates to this matter. I'm scheduled to have this procedure done in about 6 weeks time from now.

Thank you again for your caring guidance and encouragement. It has been invaluable. My hope is that you are healthy and doing well in your part of the world. My very best to you, MrMac.

PS I promise to report back on how things progress. Won't fade away this time. Cheers, bro!

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MrMac99 in reply to Hrbman

Hi Hrbman thanks for getting back it's good to hear how other are getting on. I'm glad to hear that you are doing well and that the LS has improved somewhat and not getting any worse the circumcision seems to have helped you a lot. I don't think there's any quick fix but it will be interesting to see how the PRP therapy will go if you decide to have it. there have been some good reports about it.

Its aslo good your getting the scrotal webbing sorted as you've said life is to short to be stressed about it. it should be a straightforward procedure. Do let us know how you get on with everything.

I'm doing well and in good form thanks for asking. It's a very stressful time for the world at the moment with the conflict that is going on hopefully peace will be restored soon.

Thanks for the update. all the best for now and keep us posted

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PabloHu in reply to Hrbman

Is there any progress to report?

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Hrbman

Hello Mr Mac, I do strongly appreciate the encouragement. Wonderful to receive, thank you. One must remember to remain optimistic, you have assisted greatly in helping me that way. When there is more to report on, I will most certainly be checking back with an update. Cheers!

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MrMac99 in reply to Hrbman

That's no problem Man keep positive. I'm sure they are other's on the forum who would like to know how you get on as well. 👍🏼

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4x4er

MrMacc99, thanks for this! As many have said it helps a lot. I’ve just been diagnosed with BXO/LS and it seems to be spread around the glands as foreskin. I tried stretching things myself for a year thinking it was phimosis! I’m due for a circ two months and am going to try get some cream from the doc to stop it in the meantime. I hope to have the same luck you’ve had!

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MrMac99 in reply to 4x4er

Hi there that's no problem man glad it has helped you. Sorry to hear about your LS. I think you probably have it a while? it usually farley slow progressing it can even ease off and then flare up again. with LS stretching doesn't really work that well I would recommend you use some steroid cream in the meantime before your circumcision it can slow it down hopefully afterwards it should clear up. I don't mind If you have any questions or concerns to ask. All the best

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4x4er in reply to MrMac99

Sooo, I’ve tried the cream today, dermol (clobetasol propionate) and I’ve had pins and needles and a strange feeling/taste in my mouth. Did you ever come across that? I’ve emailed the doc to see what they think, I hope I’m not allergic to the thing that will help!

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MrMac99 in reply to 4x4er

That's good you got some cream Man hopefully your not allergic to it. It is possible but unlikely the symptoms you have are they a known side effect for that cream. you don't need to use much just a little Will do. And keep in contact with your doctor

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Sataha123

I just had my circumcision and came to findout my glans has this white stuff. is it how a bxo in glans looks like?anybody to confirm?

Please help me out!

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MrMac99 in reply to Sataha123

Hi Sataha in my opinion it does look like Bxo or LS but there are other conditions with similar symptoms you should see your doctor or dermatologist once your circumcision has healed up enough they may prescribe some steroid cream sometime after a circumcision the glans can be pale in colour only time will tell. But if it is LS now that the glans are exposed hopefully it won't spread anymore and will improve. I presume you had phimosis for some time? At this stage you should keep in touch with your doctor.

I'm sorry to inform you that photos are no longer allowed to be posted on this forum unfortunately in the past some inappropriate photos and under age post have caused this ban which is understandable but it has meant that posters are no longer allowed photos showing there genuine problems ether.

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Overthinker_99

Hey Mac, hope you’re doing fine. I’m 11 months post op and my penis health has improved a lot since then. I’m a bit concerned about the redness/irritation/hyperpigmentation that still shows on the glans tho, especially on the tip. This is hardly noticeable in everyday life, however, I see it when I jerk off and minutes after. Sometimes when I do it with saliva only, I find I have to spit many times because it dries up quickly, and there’s this friction that makes the whole experience a bit less pleasurable, is this normal? Does LS actually ever leave? can it stay dormant and still affect me? Am I just overreacting?

With regard to my rinsing habits, I usually gently wash with warm water, then carefully pad dry it with toilet paper, moisturize with Cicaplast Baume B5 after the shower every single day. I find this moisture to last long and sometimes I find rests of the product between the folds of the remaining foreskin bunching up behind the glans, am I doing anything wrong? Should I take any precaution when I work out, wash or jerk off?

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MrMac99 in reply to Overthinker_99

Hi, glad to hear things are improving for you. I presume you were circumcised for LS? It's normal to have more redness on the glans especially after masterbating or sex there is more blood in the glans when erect. But saying that if there's any LS there it could also make it red looking. I don't know if you could ever say it's gone completely yes it may lie dormant it's just something you need to keep an eye out for. but now that you are circumcised you are giving it every chance to improve. A good water based lub would be best there is a happy medium not a enough it drys out and too much it's not as pleasurable ether. It does take time to get used to everything generally your glans wouldn't be as sensitive as before but orgasms can be quite intense.

It's sound like you are keeping good care of the lad I'm sure you find washing is much easier now and it's always good to moisturise afterwards maybe use a little less if it's not being all absorbed by the skin.

If you are in any way worried ask your doctor about any concerns you may have. I Hope this has helped you in some way.

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Overthinker_99 in reply to MrMac99

Thank you so much Mac, once again you’ve cleared out my doubts and reassured me. Have you always been moisturizing since you got the circ? Is this supposed to be a lifelong habit?

Orgasms are quite intense, yes, and the appearance does improve a whole lot. I think this ruminating I comment to you above also has to do with the psychological trauma as an aftermath of LS. Like one needs to be sure everything is done correctly so as to preserve the health we’ve achieved thanks to the circ, not to mention the fact it is a part of the body we give huge value to, the one we’re talking about right here.

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MrMac99 in reply to Overthinker_99

Hi yeah I moisturizing most days but not every day it's probably a good habit to get into 😊. I wouldn't worry or think too much about it now that you are circumcised if caught early enough LS should improve a lot afterwards. Keep a positive outlook Man.

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2CutNot2Cut in reply to Overthinker_99

I'm just curious about the orgasm statement. Were they not as good before? I cannot really understand how the orgasm would change. I can see how it would take longer to achieve due to a lack of sensitivity and therefore it's like edging orgasm. Is that what is going on here? I'm reluctant to have a circumcision at this point and am looking into skin stretching technique for my bxo condition which is more of a tight wide ring of skin around the shaft 2" down from the tip. I do have logical concerns about how long to wait for circumcision if that is needed. I'm learning there are various types and it is in different depending on where it is on the skin.

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MrMac99 in reply to 2CutNot2Cut

Hi Man don't get me wrong it was still good before the circumcision but sometimes it would happen a little to quickly. You are correct it's like having a edging orgasm it's just more intense.It's understandable you are reluctant it's a big decision I don't know how bad your LS is it sounds like you have a band or ring around you foreskin. You don't have any on your glans? See how the stretching goes, do you have any steroid cream? This can really help. But ultimately you may need to consider having a circumcision there are different types of circumcision but really it depends on the LS and where you have it.

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2CutNot2Cut in reply to MrMac99

It's a 1" think ring around the shaft 2 " down the foreskin. Urologist said a 90% cut would be needed but the ring is only about 60% I think that has to go. Just a bit below the ring and up as to go. I don't like that he said 90% and reading all those who are tight. The 1st Urologist said sex would be better. Not sure why that is info I need from him as it's an opinion I didn't ask for and he seems to be trying to push me to getting one. I think my BXO spreads from from masturbating and microtering the foreskin that is tight. I plan to create a stretching device so that it will be fully stretched inside the ring causing the cracking of the skin but then it will heal while stretched versus healing while soft and then tearing next time it gets hard repeating the cycle and causing more scar tissue. If it heals stretched, it shouldn't crack when I get an election. That is my hope. Otherwise I have to get cut and cry myself to sleep.

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2CutNot2Cut in reply to MrMac99

Right. I only have it around the outside of my foreskin halfway down the shaft. Actually more like 2" down so I have a lot of skin they would be cutting away if they were to do a 90% cut. I am going to stretch it with a tool that I'm going to keep in place so it stays stretched while it can heal. The comment about the moisture makes sense as I have read that bacteria could be a cause of BXO as well. If it is bacterial then you might be able to remove it with antibiotics.. There is a steroid shot that you can have in the penis that apparently can help as well.

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MrMac99 in reply to 2CutNot2Cut

It sounds like you have a phimotic ring caused by the LS and is it the inner foreskin you say it's 2"down the shaft can you fully retract?

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2CutNot2Cut in reply to MrMac99

Yes you're almost right. It's on the outside, not inside of my skin. No I can't because the skin is now too tight from the ring forming. The ring gets past the head That's why I've explained the solution I have. The skin is rough on the ring where it has small tears and is healing constantly and on the back it's smooth ring. Once I stretch the heck out of it with a ring stretcher and let it heal, I hope to have smooth healed skin. It will never heal flaccid as it will just tear again when hard. You have 2 Dr choices here. Cream or cut. I'm the type to question ideas and I get the steroid cream idea but not circumcision as the next and last option. It's not even the last as grafting skin would be something they do when circumcisions failed.

Has anyone experienced bxo or ls and recalled if they had other issues overlapping? Like diabetes, obesity, changes in lifestyle like eating, exercise, mood? Meds effecting immune system, excessive smoking, slow healing cuts, swelling or tingling limbs, or open cuts /injuries in groin area (eg from sports or shaving)?

I think ... it's more immune related and trigger by infection. So if you're immune is weak and a small cut happens, that cut could start an infection that the immune system is slow to attack. Doctors don't seem to know the cause but they think cutting it away is the only solution if it doesn't stop on its own. Also, depending on where your bxo/ls is spreading, your response will need to be adjusted. See a doctor asap, cream it, and if the above list matches you, seek changes in lifestyle. Better food, stop smoking, exercise , cut out sugar,etc.

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MrMac99 in reply to 2CutNot2Cut

That's what I thought it might be on the outside. eventually it may spread through to the inner skin. It's important that you keep a close eye on this if you can't retract the foreskin it could be problematic It's a vicious circle Man definitely try the cream and stretching and see how it goes. and the alternative remedies may also help lifestyle change and trying not to stress would also be helpful. keeping it clean as well I remember when I had it there was always a odor so it could be a bacterial thing with a low immune system.

Definitely keep any eye on any progress of LS and act accordingly hopefully it won't.

Do keep us informed of how you get on.

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2CutNot2Cut

1st off - great site. 2nd off - if any uncut guys have some friction burn on their foreskin, treat it early as soon as you see some white scaring when it heals. Steroid cream and don't JO until that friction burn has healed. BXO is not a fully known cause, but bacterial, immune problems, or maybe cancer are some thoughts from what I've learned on the topic. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Good doctor work you had done. I have BXO for about a year now. It made its way around the entire diameter of the foreskin about 2" down from the tip. Saw 2 dermatologists and a urologist. First 2 gave the typical steroid creams (the clear by the 1st and the white by the 2nd). When that didn't work, all 3 said circumcision was the only option. About a 90% cut is the best he can do as far as leaving foreskin. My concern is if it doesn't take and you do a 100% cut, what's left then? Grafting skin back...no thanks.

So I'm glad to see this forum. I saw a youtube video of someone who had it done and they said 2 big things were different. A, JO is now requiring lube. B, It's less sensitive after the skin is gone, and the head is exposed and rubbing clothing all day. It makes perfect sense that this would be the case from seeing how cut men masturbate, and from the fact that there are so many nerve endings in the skin and foreskin protects the head so it's not dried out. I'm reluctant to get it done but might need to for medical reasons. My ring makes it painful or impossible to pull my skin all the way down now because it is too tight and would tear if I pulled it down further.

What I would like to know is whethere I can have the skin band sliced through to relieve the tension and then let the cut/wound heal as a scar? I just need some of the tension gone because I think for me, part of the reason this condition isn't stopping is that it keeps micro-tearing during erection/masturbation. Less tension in that skin would stop the micro-tearing which heals when my skin is not perfect and I believe joins together. It needs to heal in an expanded/erect state so the skin is healed when fully stretched, not when it is contracted. This is just common sense to me because if you were a kid and scraped your knee, you would know that everytime you bend it, you rip open your scabs slightly since scabs are flexible lol. The circular BXO ring really seems like scaring from tearing and it also common sense to me that scar tissue is not elastic. So stop the scaring, stop the BXO. (I know there is more to this, but I'm just explaining what my experience has been and I find mine only gets worse after JO and I'd rather give up my foreskin than that :)

I asked the urologist if the band can be removed (leaving 2" skin at the top, and the skin below and joining them. He said no due to the blood supply that would be unavailable to the top half of the skin.

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MrMac99 in reply to 2CutNot2Cut

Hi Man see my previous post to you. I think you have a good understanding of the condition in what you explained. if the steroid cream and stretching didn't work and the 3 doctors think you should have a circumcision it's probably the best way to go especially if you can't retract the foreskin fully without pain. it's also important to wash underneath the foreskin everyday. The problem with LS or Bxo is that it likes the moist environment underneath the foreskin by having a dorsal slit and not a full circumcision it can still spread on your inner foreskin and on your glans.

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2CutNot2Cut in reply to MrMac99

Bretting to my inner glands is a concern and and right now I am taking a risk by not getting circumcised right away.. I would probably say I am too concerned to move forward with a circumcision based a consumption based on the horror stories here. I'm also hoping that a change in my lifestyle will cause the symptoms to go away And that my little stretching device will be the cure to the constant healing and tearing from masturbating. I have what is kind of like a famosis ring but halfway down your penis. I do see white spots Under the Skin above this ring which has me wondering if it is spreading upwards and then I suppose what you suggested will probably be more of a concern to me as it gets closer to the head.Doctors only have one solution for BXO and that is circumcision so I'm a little skeptical that they would suggest anything outside of their medical practice because they would be liable.I'm basing this on my 2 years of living with it that it seems to have settled down usually when I'm not playing with my Dick and that doesn't happen often. I usually masturbate 2 or 3 times A-day and I think if I had a circumcision I probably wouldn't at all. I feel like I'd rather have BXO and and foreskin lol. I'm being facetious here

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MrMac99 in reply to 2CutNot2Cut

Hey Man if you want to hold off on the circumcision that's fine but you should be on some steroid cream which would help clobetasol is usually the first choice for the doctors to use. you will need to watch for it spreading if it starts to spread you should have the circumcision. scar tissue is usually not very flexible I would be a little sceptical that the stretching will help long term using the clobetasol with the stretching might help or slow it down.

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2CutNot2Cut in reply to MrMac99

That is the cream. In both clear and white cream formats. Not sure why both as it's expensive and a big tube. I have enough for 5 years. I want ideas aside from cutting 90% of the skin away and having tight skin in sex or masturbation, and worse pain or open sores. Grafting skin isn't off the table similar to a 2nd circumcision of the bxo returns. Stretching and massage I hope will work but the key is also that the skin isn't dry. It cracks then so keeping it oiled and soft during and after I'm done will be important. And if it doesn't work, I will have to consider circumcision more seriously

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Mongeri

Hi mr mark for me is not realy the same, im circumsised since kid, i do surgery 3month ago to remove an cyst du to ingeown hair on the shaft by cut the skin around and remove it and i got 3stitchesSince this done when im erect my penis is skin at this zone is too tight

I want to know if the skin going to stretch or not im very anxious ☹

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MrMac99 in reply to Mongeri

Hi Mongeri after having any kind of surgery the skin can become tight with a scar. in time hopefully it should improve I'd keep it moisturised and keep stretching the skin this will help to soften it over time.

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Mongeri

thank you for answering mr marc i have another question, how long did it take for the skin to stretch completely in your caseby the way im 20

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MrMac99 in reply to Mongeri

It can take several months to feel normal again and even up to a year in some cases. I used bio oil to help soften the scar and skin. if you could use something like that it should help in time.

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PabloHu

Hey, I've got what I think is pretty advanced BXO, and would be thankful to get your opinion on whether it is still worth trying Dermovate or if it is better to go straight for the circ at this point. Let me know if you're still around on here. Thanks!

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MrMac99 in reply to PabloHu

Hi Pablo sorry to hear that you have BOX, I presume you have been diagnosed with LS /BXO it would definitely be worth trying the Dermovate even if it's just to slow down the progress while you await having the circumcision, if it is advanced then it would be best to have it done.

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PabloHu in reply to MrMac99

I don't have an actual BXO diagnosis, but am pretty sure that's what it is. My GP is fairly useless. I came to him because the BXO caused a phimotic ring on my foreskin and I couldn't retract it properly. I told him I'm afraid it might be BXO, but he played it down and gaslit me and asked how often I have sex and suggested as a remedy I have sex more often, which would supposedly stretch the foreskin and heal the condition. 🤦‍♂️

I went back once I found whitish spots on the head and he finally prescribed Dermovate, but still refused to refer me for a proper diagnosis. Now reading this thread I'm worried about it spreading to the urethra and getting to the point where even a circumcision might not be enough to help.

The white spots are growing and the meatus turns red and itchy now and again. The Dermovate helps with that, but am I losing precious time with the Dermovate?

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PabloHu in reply to PabloHu

At the same time, a circumcision seems scary, and also very expensive if you go private! But I guess there is no price too high to avoid permanent urinary and sexual issues...

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MrMac99 in reply to PabloHu

Right so you should keep going back to your doctor or if there's a different GP you can go to, they should really be sending you to a urologist or dermatologist for a proper diagnosis. Could you retract your foreskin before this started or has phimosis always been a problem for you? Has the Dermovate helped with retracting the foreskin?

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PabloHu in reply to MrMac99

No, the phimosis only appeared some years ago. At first I ordered some rubber stretching rings (PhimoCure) and used them in combination with over the counter topical creams, but gave that up after about three months because it didn't seem to make much difference and usually just caused micro-tears and swelling.

That was around the time Covid hit and it was not possible to get a proper GP appointment and I was too insecure to talk about it over the phone. I finally went to the GP after the lockdowns as mentioned in my previous post, when I was told the "have more sex" thing.

I think the Dermovate helped a little so far. It does reduce the itching and it is slightly easier to retract the foreskin, but only when I'm not erect (I'm a grower).

Can I maybe send you a photo or two of the spots, to see what you think?

Cheers!

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MrMac99 in reply to PabloHu

It sounds like you have acquired phimosis then which suggests there has been changes to the skin whether It Started from a balanitis/fungal infection or Bxo? the rubber stretching rings probably would not have helped things causing more scarring 🙄Your GP doesn't seem to be very helpful "have more sex" can you see another GP in the practice you need to be referred

Unfortunately they don't allow photo on this site anymore

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MrMac99 in reply to PabloHu

Hay How's it going with you now it's been a while any updates?

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