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Covid rules about continuing training whilst living in supported living?

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Hi My adult daughter lives in a supported living house with 2 others. She attends a training course 2 days a week working with animals outside. The care company has said that she can no longer go even though the national guidance is that education can continue. Does anyone have any relevant guidance that I can quote to allow her to continue going please?

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Good morning. Although technically that is true the guidelines for education is that. But there’s issues when that education involves other things rather then a school setting.

I think you find if it’s with working with animals on a different setting I am guessing a farm or something in that nature,that’s probably where there’s risks . You could potentially call that setting and find out for yourself rather than accept what care provider telling you. Hope this helps. Take care.

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XGCC in reply to Leosammas

Hi, I'm waiting to see what new updated guidance is re: supported living. My daughter is in similar situation. Stables said she could no longer volunteer which is understandable if public cannot go pony trekking etc. Supported living stopped visits from family and friends but unsure why her support worker from different organisation who helped her with volunteering cannot go to take her for exercise - maybe not 'essential' care and provider can make own rules for access even though supported living is supported person's 'home'. ?

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Leosammas in reply to XGCC

If your child lives in supported living on her own with care and no others sharing hallways drive ways or reception areas she should 1 have family to visit family is part of the bubble and essential part of her care.

2 guidelines states that a person with autism pe ld has a right to go out should go out and Carers or care provider shouldn’t stop that normality happen.

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XGCC in reply to Leosammas

Thanks, She does share with others but guidance seems to say I could bubble with her as i am a single household if I and the other household aren't bubbled with anyone else...at least she can Facetime me on her ipad. I would also like to know where it says she has to self-isolate for 14 days when she goes back to her house if she comes home to me at Christmas...

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49Twister in reply to XGCC

I believe the government are considering that if families get together over the Xmas period that they will have to self isolate for 2 weeks before they go back to their own homes. This will include those in supported living which is a small price to pay to be able to spend Xmas with them. This is not set in stone as yet but seems that it is a very likely solution for Xmas.

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49Twister in reply to XGCC

If they share with anyone in supported living it gets more complicated. My son only shares with one other person and can’t form a bubble with me (his mum) and I live on my own because he shares with another person. Not been able to go inside his home or him in mine for months.All his classes/clubs/ volunteering have all been stopped for the duration of this virus, we live in the North East.Everything online which isn’t the same but he does get something out of seeing his pals. The support staff in her supported living should ensure she gets some exercise which I think is essential for her mental wellbeing. They probably don’t want other support worker from other organisation involved due to risk of spreading the virus but her staff should provide this. It really is getting so bizarre !!

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ShueCommunity friend

Hi, so frustrating isn't it trying to fathom out what's allowed and what isn't. Government guidelines allow for groups of up to 15 to continue for support purposes, training is a form of support isn't it? Best wishes.

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Sarah_MencapAdministrator

Hello

I have been in touch with Mencap's policy team for a bit of advice about this. They have suggested that some potential reasons for the decision are:

a) if your daughter is on the Clinically Extremely Vulnerable (CEV) list it would mean she is strongly advised against attending educations settings. The guidance on CEV is here - gov.uk/government/publicati...

b)if she is not on the Clinically Extremely Vulnerable List, then it could be the result of a risk assessment by the provider of care/ support. If this is the case then the guidance about education being open is here - gov.uk/guidance/new-nationa...

It also worth noting that the guidance around CEV people is only guidance and it not mandatory.

I really hope this helps a little. I am sorry it is not a clearer answer.

Please let us know how you get on.

Thanks

Sarah

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