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lupus dog connection?? or just my insomnia making me crazy?

lupus dog connection?? or just my insomnia making me crazy?

last night during yet another bout of insomnia I started wondering about lupus the word and whether it was related to wolves/dogs. It apparently is latin for wolf from which we get dogs. Is it a coincidence that a lot of the posts people have pictures of their dogs? Are lupus sufferers more likely to be dog people or are dog people more likely to have lupus? Is there a genetic connection between lupus people and dogs?

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I'd like it to be known that my profile pic is a wolf, Canis lupus, and not a domestic dog. Naturally, I share many genes with both, like every other mammal on earth. Interestingly, we have selected domestic dogs to show behaviours that make them much more infantile than wolves; their problem solving ability is weaker, for example, and they are much more likely to seek help and direction from humans, whereas wolves will cooperate with each other to solve a problem. I'd rather be a wolf!

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I know you're a wolf it was your picture that set my brain rambling in the early hours of this morning. I haven't seen any profile pictures with cats I think Eeyore is the only other animal I've seen

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you are right! That'll keep my own sleep-deprived brain ticking over tonight! :)

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good job they didn't use my dog for the test in bottom video. he would have just sat there and waited for the food, didn't see why he should work for treats. he knew he would get them anyway.

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Great question! My dog was a wolf who liked a feather bed and steak hand-fed in it......her problem-solving ability was much greater than mine whisperit ! 🤣...so I guess I count as a dog person 🐺

Like my hound, full moon keeps me awake - last night was the Hunter Moon, daylight by night for tracking quarry/prey - and I was up till well past my 9pm bedtime! Not, I hasten to add, bringing down deer with my speed, tenacity and agility. Nor with nightsights and an empty skull: bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-... 💩

XOX

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I saw that American numpty too. what is it that makes some people enjoy killing animals for fun. the farmer here has about 60 ducks all with there wings clipped so they can't fly waiting on a small loch to be shot. guess it's where the term sitting ducks comes from

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Aye, I don't know how much bone from the neck up it takes to shoot tame, hand-reared pheasants that can barely fly anyway, but I reckon near 100%

No howling at the moon tonight now ! Or if you do, I'll be with you 🤣🤩😘 xxx

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I may try hanging upside down tonight and try and see things from a bats perspective. no I've got a headache that won't work, I'll join you in a howl

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🐺🐺🐺 XOX

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So that's at least three in the pack tonight....x

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Let's keep it together and tight ! 🐺🐺🐺 XOX

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I was howling too but as I’m a Sjögren’s doodle dog perhaps my howl was a bit dry and hoarse and no one heard it? My dogs don’t appear to have much wolverine in them until it comes to chasing cats and pigeons. And growling at the postie or anyone in a fluorescent jacket.

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now that seems to be another "connection" full moon and we're all awake howling. could that be a pattern to my insomnia? I will have to keep a diary on the insomnia and moon phases. maybe a medical breakthrough :)

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Beautiful moon last night. I was on my 3.00 am prowl. The bladder calls me most nights. Love to look out and see the night sky. xx

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4am for me, and it was very beautiful! xxx

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What an interesting question! I did a quick search and found this:

resources.lupus.org/entry/w...

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I reckon 'lupus' means running wild and free ! 🐺🐺🐺 xxx

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Don’t know, but your dog looks happy😂

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Ah, it's a dog's life ! He certainly does look like 'thanks for the interest but I'm busy right now', as mine often did 😂 xxx

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he was, I lost him back in march. He was helping me in the garden in this photo, sitting in the wheelbarrow with his teddy. are you a dog or cat person emee?

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I’m so sorry😞 He obviously had a fantastic life with you. I adore dogs! I lost mine in 2011, but I think about him every day. He is buried in a cemetery and I visit him regularly. Also I have a huge portrait of him above the fireplace. It’s like he’s always with me, I love him so much😊

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so sorry for your loss, it's hard without them. I have a huge photo I took on my wall. they're just the best aren't they. all are the very best dogs ever.

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I know! I don’t want another, but they kind of brighten up my day, even if I just see one on TV😂

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sorry you mean the bed picture. he was in the wheel barrow in my profile picture

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Well as you can see I am a penguin ;) I think there is a whole old times medicine reason why Lupus is called it, something to do with "wolf bite" and it not being diagnosed properly or being beloved to be something super natural..

I am personally more of a cat person but I do love dogs! Did you know dogs can get Lupus too? There is a dog (from a YouTube channel) that has it.

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The very first time I heard the words 'auto-immune disease' was about a dog friend...the vet had diagnosed it at one consultation, and could pinpoint the cause to his second booster jab !

He had an extremely happy life, if shortened.....and yes, I have asked the vet if he will see me 😀 xxx

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Hey, who knows maybe it could help! X

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He has been doing stem cell therapy for ten years, and as it involves using your own body and no medications...it wouldn't have to go through the clinical trials process for the same technique in humans (with lots of no-blame legal docs of course)....🤪 xxx

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I have been wondering if stem cells could help us

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It's those pesky precursor cells that start out in the bone marrow that seem to be the problem in AI-ers....so some folks go abroad for stem cell treatment (eg BBC's Caroline Wyatt for MS: dailymail.co.uk/health/arti... and there are some clinical trials in the States xxx

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how come the vet was able to pin point it so accurately and yet our specialists can't???

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Knowledge.........🧐 xxxx

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Also I feel humans are slightly more annoying to treat, ethically, monetery and with other health complications. They can cure arthritis in cats but in humans nope.

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How right you are Penguintaz, some doctors regard patients as an irritating appendage to their work ! xxx

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I didn't mean it in a rude way! Though I guess pets can't complain about how bad they are feeling as much as we can..

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'I didn't mean it in a rude way!'...wish I'd heard that from my GP ! 😂

Yes, vets have to go on symptoms and not dismiss them as 'functional', as Twitchytoes will agree ! 🤣 xxx

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which arthritis can they cure? mine is osteo although I was told originally it was rheumatoid.

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I read that too about it looking like a wolf bite. I just wondered if maybe there was some sort of genetic connection that made lupus people connect more with dogs than cats. penguins well I can't figure a connection there at all, maybe your gene mutated ;)

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I just like them! I feel I can connect with a bird that is meant to be adapted to the ice but still falls over a lot and is very snuggly (mainly for warmth)

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Loving this analogy. So relate - although I do wish I could bounce back and that I relished snow and ice like penguins. When my kids were young we had the Pingu videos and I loved watching them as much, maybe even more, than they did!

PS it’s not just a Lupus thing - RA people have as many posts on NRAS HU as we do here - maybe more. I think it’s the warmth, unconditional love and feremones poisinally.

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Oh love the pic and the "im staying right here " look. xxx

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he had the sun on his back and he loved a pillow

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My reply here has no bearing on anything other than perhaps your interest. On the FB group UK Lupus sufferers, one lady has a dog called Archie who has lupus! It’s sooo rare on dogs and this poor lovely has to wear a UV protection coat!

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oh poor thing. that must be hard for the dog to understand but good that it's human cares enough to help him

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I've got possible lupus and two dogs and two ponies. Have had dogs for the last 34 years and although I like cats too I find them a little scary! My dogs don't have much wolf in them either. The only time I've seen them wolf like was when one of them got a chicken by the neck (I rescued it!) and my Jack Russell cross killed a rat in the back garden! Neither of the dogs wanted anything to do with the rat once it was dead - they didn't seem to recognise it as food!

And my vet is MUCH better than any of the Rheumies I've seen! If he's seeing one of my dogs for their annual vaccines he is quite happy to answer any questions I have regarding my elderly pony's care (I don't need to book an extra long appointment and he doesn't charge me for the extra advice either).

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do we have dogs because we can't have wolves as pets. a lot of us seem drawn towards dogs rather than cats

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I'm a dog person (allergic to cats) but I'm afraid my dog has about as much wolf in him as a spud, plus he's terrified of the cat next door! His great love in life is running and doing sharp swerves. Interestingly, long dogs like greys and whippets run in a different way to any other breed, including wolves according to a Beeb documentary.

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Yes, sighthounds have a double suspension gallop, like a racehorse, but using their back muscles like a coiled spring, and their tail as a rudder...quicker than Red Rum up to about 500m as the fastest accelerating creatures on earth*, hitting top speed within a couple of seconds....a quite incredible thing to see, but tricky if your furry friend is half a mile along the beach before you can shout 'come back' ! 🤩 🐺💓🌠 xxx

* ssh, don't mention the cheetahs

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When I first got him I had to pretend he was a puppy. Especially when a film crew were in the local park. He investigated all the trailers before spotting the crew's alfresco lunch tables. Half a wheel of cheese later he was out of hearing of the canteen manager's shouts ( or at least pretended)!

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🤣 Ah, selective deafness ! It's the speed, when you're running at 40mph, all you can hear is the wind! 🤗 xxx

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they're cats they don't count :)

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has anyone rehomed a retired guide dog? keep getting posts pop up and thought I might enquire. so asked if the local centre got many retirees. reply was all the info is on website. which tells me nothing. what would be the point in applying if the local place doesn't have any? if I were a cat person and the farmer didn't shoot cats on sight it would be so easy here to get a cat. dogs on the other hand are rare.

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