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Good afternoon everyone!

Following your feedback, we have made a small tweak to the “like” button.

Instead of the thumbs-up icon, likes will now show as hearts (which we think is lovely - no pun intended!)

The heart icon is already used in our app, so it is now more consistent, but more importantly, the level of support that’s shared across HealthUnlocked is phenomenal, and the thumbs-up icon just wasn’t quite cutting it anymore. We hope you agree that the heart icon is a more empathetic and appropriate response to the experiences that are shared here.

Let us know if you love it (sorry!) or hate it in the comments below, or if you would like to see any other icons/emojis included when reacting to posts or replies.

Lots of love,

HealthUnlocked

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GMa27 profile image
GMa27

❤️❤️❤️

MissisB profile image
MissisB

Have to admit, not keen. At all.

Love is a higher degree of enthusiasm than a Like - and If someone has posted a message about struggling, I would really not want to "Love" it. There are also certain comments or Members who I would definitely not want to comment with a Heart to.

I will be far less likely to use this button - so in effect will interact less with posts that I am not actually commenting to. I may even have to go back to some posts I have "Liked" and remove my "Love" for them.

Of course, Facebook has both a Like and a Heart as well as a few others - so you can react more appropriately.

in reply to MissisB

Very good points? A 'Like' is equivalent to an 'OK'. Any more depth of response is more likely to prompt a lengthier reply - which is what we want everywhere on Health Unlocked? 😶

mauschen profile image
mauschen in reply to MissisB

I agree with Hidden , you have made a good argument against using the heart icon.

In my opinion a heart can be interpreted in many ways. To love/like a post, to let someone know that your heart goes out to them, to let someone know that you share their concerns... using the thumbs up when someone has just posted that their partner has died seems very insensitive. A heart on the other hand can convey empathy...

No one icon will cover all eventualities but a heart for me is more personal and conveys more emotion.

IndigoBlue61 profile image
IndigoBlue61

Sorry, but I don’t like it . . . On other social media sites a heart icon means ‘love’ not ‘like’ and I feel is inappropriate

CarpeDiem11 profile image
CarpeDiem11

I agree with the above two posters (not the 1st one). My first thought was ugh! I thought maybe I was just being a misery! I personally don't want to love anyone's post, just agree with them or signal that someone's response is a good one ! I feel reassured that there are others who feel the heart is not appropriate.

BridgeGirl profile image
BridgeGirl

Not for me. I'm happy to Like posts but there are very few I'd Love, and if I did feel strongly I'd reply with a positive message.

You mention the app: it frequently causes confusion as it doesn't give access to all areas of the forum: maybe that would be a priority for any tech tweaks.

Or the ability to add pictures within thread, rather than just in the opening post.

It seems to be the answer to a question that wasn't asked.

BridgeGirl profile image
BridgeGirl in reply to BridgeGirl

PS I have just had to Love a post when I was simply acknowledging I'd seen it. A bit excessive, I think

CarpeDiem11 profile image
CarpeDiem11 in reply to BridgeGirl

This last statement is a good point, we weren't asked beforehand.

BridgeGirl profile image
BridgeGirl in reply to CarpeDiem11

When I'm sure there are plenty of tech improvements we would appreciate

BridgeGirl profile image
BridgeGirl in reply to BridgeGirl

And I'm wondering why the profile pages have a new layout that adds nothing that I can spot

CarpeDiem11 profile image
CarpeDiem11 in reply to BridgeGirl

Hear hear! Wasn't sure if I should love your post lol😊

BridgeGirl profile image
BridgeGirl in reply to CarpeDiem11

I felt exactly the same :D :D

Activity2004 profile image
Activity2004 in reply to BridgeGirl

What about a smiley face for like and two smiley faces for love?

AlMorr profile image
AlMorr in reply to Activity2004

😊😊😊😀😀😉😁

Activity2004 profile image
Activity2004 in reply to AlMorr

Thank you!😀👍

Newdawn profile image
Newdawn

Members have already commented that a ‘love’ heart should be red not blue.

Personally, I press ‘like’ as an affirmation of support or an agreement on content. When members are posting details of their battles with an incurable blood cancer on our site, I’d feel very awkward about ‘loving’ the content particularly if they’re posting bad news.

Which is why I hate the ‘how did this post make you feel’ feature.

Newdawn

IndigoBlue61 profile image
IndigoBlue61 in reply to Newdawn

Exactly my thoughts ☹️

ABDESSLAM1 profile image
ABDESSLAM1

H❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

Nathalie99 profile image
Nathalie99

Hi Laura,

Some members express empathy by using the symbols of hugs and kisses/love to express "I feel for you".

However, I think it could be better to have a different range of expressions, like "thank you" (for a valuable, interesting resource), "empathy" (I feel you), "sad" (for when there are some sad news) and maybe more.

Sometimes I can't like a reply because I feel "that's terrible" and I don't have a way of acknowledging the response.

This is just a quick suggestion and I would need to think of ideas while responding to posts.

CarpeDiem11 profile image
CarpeDiem11 in reply to Nathalie99

I like your suggestions. This love button is all or nothing, but your suggestions echo how I feel, that there should be a range. Sometimes, someone posts such a thorough response I don't feel I can add anything to it, and liking it doesn't really say that. I usually write saying I support it. However, a button for "great answer " would save a lot of time.

IndigoBlue61 profile image
IndigoBlue61 in reply to CarpeDiem11

I often just respond to one of our members who has posted a good response saying just that. A heart symbol just doesn’t work

helvella profile image
helvella in reply to Nathalie99

Another (non-medical/health) forum I frequent has this range of options:

Like

Dislike

Agree

Disagree

Informative

Useful

Big grin

It feels a bit awkward if all options are positive - but so often I'd rather see people just ignore rather than slap a negative onto a post. (At least in the context of a support forum.)

CarpeDiem11 profile image
CarpeDiem11 in reply to helvella

Yep! Totally agree with this. I have left a forum because of the sheer volume of negative comments. Support forums should have positive comments, although I take your point about all options not being positive on other types of forum.

Nathalie99 profile image
Nathalie99 in reply to helvella

Me too, helvella

Mmrr profile image
Mmrr

I'm happy to like lots of posts, but I love very few. Many people post to try and get advice/support as they have a problem, loving the post is not appropriate in these situations.

CarpeDiem11 profile image
CarpeDiem11 in reply to Mmrr

I agree with this.

IndigoBlue61 profile image
IndigoBlue61 in reply to Mmrr

Exactly 😊

pigeonCl-HU profile image
pigeonCl-HU

Hi Laura, to be perfectly honest? No, I don't think it is a good idea at all. It seems way over the top.

I may like a post or a reply, because I happen to agree with them, or otherwise like the content, because I find it helpful, informative, encouraging, not necessarily for me personally, but to the community as a whole.

But I do not LOVE it.

If I think that a post/reply is really outstanding, I might post a reply, but otherwise, the 'thumbs up' is perfectly adequate; it says 'yeah, I agree with you mate', and that's it.

On the other hand, the heart symbol, in this instance, just seems excessive, and to be frank? it just looks out of place and almost phony.

I am actually surprised that the members were not consulted on this, as this is something we use all the time.

You couldn't possibly reconsider, could you?

IMHO, it would be so much more important to sort out the totally inadequate new "members search". Whoever implemented it, have they ever actually tried to use it??

Anyway, that's the end of the rant.

pigeon.

BridgeGirl profile image
BridgeGirl in reply to pigeonCl-HU

Spot on

annienell profile image
annienell

Sorry Laura, but I have to agree with nearly everyone else. I really don't like 'love'. I've got used to 'like' though often even that's not really appropriate. A range of expressions would be better, as in Nathalie99 's response, otherwise I'll just go back to commenting on a post. I can't imagine many instances where I'd want to love someone's post or reply.

helvella profile image
helvella

I have a phrase for things like this: vomit-worthy

Sorry, but that is how I feel.

crabapple profile image
crabapple in reply to helvella

Yay!

moreless profile image
moreless

I agree, APsnotFab! This smacks of immature teenage girl behaviour, who also like to dot their i's with hearts!

If this remains, it will be a very rare occasion that I use it!

martino profile image
martino

Having a heart or thumbs up doesn’t matter to me. It’s what my boss used to call a taste and fancy sort of thing.

Patsy164 profile image
Patsy164

I don’t see anything wrong with the heart I just wouldn’t use it if the members story was bad I would just respond to them.

Samson1953 profile image
Samson1953

Neat idea

pamela22 profile image
pamela22

Hi I like the "like"👍 button as sometimes a "heart" ❤ is not always appropriate as a response to comments made on the forums.

Perhaps both 👍and ❤ could be options and we can choose our response depending on the situation and nature of the thread.

XxX

Samson1953 profile image
Samson1953

Wow just read responses. Can u put both. Love n Like. I use love a lot. There r diffrent levels of love.

music61 profile image
music61 in reply to Samson1953

I agree

CarpeDiem11 profile image
CarpeDiem11 in reply to Samson1953

Bearing in mind that they have now decided to go ahead and count the hearts, I think this would have been a better option, to give both, then it would have been easier to see which one people use more rather than as someone said below, we now only have one option.

AussieNeil profile image
AussieNeil

Seems like (as would be expected), we need a choice of icons/emojis available for us to choose from. The response to this change just shows how impossible it is to find just one symbol to represent our feedback to a wide range of post topics in over 700 communities supporting a very diverse range of health interests.

Laura, I can see the biggest positive of this change is that it will encourage more members to reply to a post - provided they have the time :) .

Neil

BridgeGirl profile image
BridgeGirl in reply to AussieNeil

Was it really something worth bothering with? Was it worth the time put into it? A simple 'Like' can be used to acknowledge/show approval of a post, and if anything more is needed, we can write a response.

Kkimm profile image
Kkimm

Hi Laura

At first I thought it was a good idea but having read others replies that it is inappropriate for the content of posts on this website I agree that we should stick with the thumbs up.

Something I would like added is to continue to see how many likes my replies have had when they are shown on my profile page not just whilst seen in the thread of communication.

I agree that this website is amazing for the support it provides so thanks alot.

Kim

helvella profile image
helvella

There has always been ambiguity about reactions to responses.

When I have posted, I want to thank others for reading and making the effort to reply. I might, or might not, agree with them. And if the response is something like "Thank you for posting that helvella.", I really don't want to add another "Thank you for thanking me." response. But nor do I want to ignore it.

I have used "Like" for that purpose and hoped the recipient has taken it that way. But "Love" just goes too, too far.

I've often wanted an "Appreciate you taking time to respond." option. If there ever is a possibility of multiple reactions, please include that.

pigeonCl-HU profile image
pigeonCl-HU in reply to helvella

'Multiple reactions' would be a very welcomed addition.

And of course I agree with you about Love Heart being way over the top and not appropriate.

pigeon

ddmagee1 profile image
ddmagee1

Thank you for your explanation. I agree!

Scobs profile image
Scobs

Love it.

LouiseRoberts profile image
LouiseRoberts

Can't help but agree with the people not loving it - sorry Laura.

Whitechinchilla profile image
Whitechinchilla

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️looks like a YES to me.😉

mariootsi profile image
mariootsi

Great idea!

Smiler53 profile image
Smiler53

Heart is not always appropriate. If there isn't a drop down option to choose between feelings 👍🙂🙁😡😰❤ probably best to stick to LIKE. Sorry, good intentions though - Thank you.

crabapple profile image
crabapple

Totally inappropriate.

Big_Dee profile image
Big_Dee

Hello LauraHU

I would agree with posts I have read, I do think heart over does it. I used the "Likes" to show agreement, not love.

Interestingly, the heart is beside a ‘Like’ word... shouldn’t it be ‘Love’?

I agreed with Laura’s post title: All you need is love. Love ‘like’’, love ‘agree’, love ‘disagree’, love ‘interesting’, love science. love support, love ‘love’.

So... I love to disagree with you, but as an Aspie I’d love to see a ‘Hug’ button. You see, it’s easier for me to hug people virtually 🤗

saifomar profile image
saifomar

Doesn't make any difference, I wasn't getting any likes anyways just cause I have a strange name which is not English sounding.

Mmrr profile image
Mmrr in reply to saifomar

Lots of people on the forum don't have 'English' sounding names, the site isn't English. It's a United Kingdom organised site, but open to everyone.

S11m profile image
S11m in reply to saifomar

Is it not quite easy to change your username?

OldFart81 profile image
OldFart81

Hello Friends...here's my 2 cents...

Many of us use this site for research to help us formulate decisions on:

should I or shouldn't I

would this be better than that

does this work or doesn't it

what happens afterwards

which course of action yields the best quality of life

Those discussions and citations within posts give us much helpful info, but often necessarily contain a review of horrific -- and sometimes tragic -- results. We LIKE those posts because they provide fodder for our decision-making. It's impossible to LOVE them because of the subject matter and post content.

Men cannot LOVE talking about removing a prostate or testicle any more than women can LOVE talking about removing a breast.

Please return the LIKE symbol.

pigeonCl-HU profile image
pigeonCl-HU in reply to OldFart81

You are so right.

pigeon

marcyh profile image
marcyh

Thank you for the effort to be more accommodating. It was well intentioned. However, in a forum such as this, posts evoke a broad range of emotions. Therein lies the conundrum. But then too many options makes things fuzzy. We can add our own emojis if we like. "Like" worked for me most of the time, but not when I wanted to express sympathy or support for someone going through a hard time. Also, I have wanted to simply express appreciation for a post, especially when someone has done some digging for information.

marcyh

pigeonCl-HU profile image
pigeonCl-HU

"Consult the Admins". Very good point.

pigeon

Thank you all for your feedback, we have taken it onboard. It’s great to see so many of you sharing your thoughts.

We will be monitoring the metrics of the like feature to see if the icon change affects how it's used. This is a method we use a lot at HU, changes are initiated by feedback and numbers. So it's great to coincide these numbers with direct feedback.

We did this previously way back in 2014 when the button was changed from 'Recommend' to 'Like'. Initially this yielded some feedback that 'Like' was too strong of an emotion and faired too similar to social networks. The metrics showed that the feature was being used far more when comparing it to Recommend, and so we changed it indefinitely. There was a 84% increase in the number of clicks and a 92% increase in the number of people who used the feature. A pretty big improvement!

There is room for improvement and we would love to offer more than one way of expressing your emotions to a post or reply, as this would solve the concerns you have shared. Leave it with us and we'll investigate 💪

For now, we will keep an eye on how the feature is being used and the numbers and give you an update here in a few weeks time!

BridgeGirl profile image
BridgeGirl in reply to

Well, without another option to signify acknowledgement without making a reply, you'll probably get the figures you want, but to interpret that as approval would be stretching it a bit when we have no alternative

IndigoBlue61 profile image
IndigoBlue61 in reply to BridgeGirl

Yes, I agree.

pigeonCl-HU profile image
pigeonCl-HU in reply to BridgeGirl

BridgeGirl, your argument is spot on!!

In fact, they probably will get the numbers they are looking for just because of us discussing it here and 'liking' replies.....doh.

As you said, if they REALLY wanted an unbiased picture from the 'metrics'?

Give us an alternative!

With an alternative they'll soon see how the little loving heart Shrinks.

pigeon.

BridgeGirl profile image
BridgeGirl in reply to pigeonCl-HU

I'm getting the usual number of likes I get on a Sunday (which is a busy day for me on the forum) and I would guess most people haven't noticed and, if they have, there is no alternative. Not much of a popularity test, is it?

pigeonCl-HU profile image
pigeonCl-HU in reply to BridgeGirl

A popularity test it is not, for sure. As you said, the metrics will be useless.

pigeon.

helvella profile image
helvella in reply to

The Recommend option reads distinctly differently to Like.

I would tend only to Recommend when I want to suggest others read the response or post.

I often Like as an indication to the person who posted/responded.

Yes, obviously, there is overlap and ambiguity. But changing what something actually means is a different thing to expressing what it means in different words.

BridgeGirl profile image
BridgeGirl in reply to helvella

I agree. Like is a sufficiently neutral word to cover various intentions. I mainly use it as an acknowledgement when someone has replied to me, or has given support to another member.

I'm finding it tedious to avoid clicking on Like, now, but I know that doing so will be interpreted as approving of that heart

CarpeDiem11 profile image
CarpeDiem11 in reply to helvella

This is how I feel about this switch from one word to another also.

pigeonCl-HU profile image
pigeonCl-HU in reply to

Hi Laura,

Thanks for your reply.

Honestly though, how can the 'metrics' have any meaning to them if you only give us one choice: that blinking heart!

As other members have noted, in reply to Bridge Girl, we now click on the heart certainly not because we love it...but only because we have no other choice.

To have meaningful metrics, leave the thumbs-up in place, as well as the new heart....

Only then will you be able to learn what the membership prefers.

pigeon.

BridgeGirl profile image
BridgeGirl in reply to pigeonCl-HU

Agreed (but not Loved :D )

pigeonCl-HU profile image
pigeonCl-HU in reply to BridgeGirl

what? not loved?....Emoji

(sorry can't copy emoji)

pigeon.

BridgeGirl profile image
BridgeGirl in reply to pigeonCl-HU

I don't have emojis on my laptop, except the basic ones I can create. I can see I'll have to fire up the iPad for when I'm busy on the forum :D

IndigoBlue61 profile image
IndigoBlue61 in reply to pigeonCl-HU

Also agree 👍

CarpeDiem11 profile image
CarpeDiem11 in reply to pigeonCl-HU

Precisely. Well said! Maybe that's what's next- a blinking heart😏

Ali_B62 profile image
Ali_B62

I quite like the thumbs up icon to be honest. :-)

Activity2004 profile image
Activity2004 in reply to Ali_B62

What about a thumb up and smiley face for like and two smiley faces with a thumb up for love. The heart may give the wrong idea to some members.

Ali_B62 profile image
Ali_B62 in reply to Activity2004

That sounds good to me. :-)

Activity2004 profile image
Activity2004 in reply to Ali_B62

Thank you 😀. I hope HU agrees with you.

MissisB profile image
MissisB

The only way I can show my dislike for this move is to personally stop using the only option of the heart. Which I will have to do. And therefore it will appear that I am not interacting with, or not reading, Member’s posts.

So be it. (And I will not be offended if you do not ❤️ me).

CarpeDiem11 profile image
CarpeDiem11 in reply to MissisB

That is what I have decided to do also, hence " not loving it" . However, I fear we will be in the minority since so few people have seen this post in relation to the numbers actually using HU. If they had pinned it to each forum, then maybe it would have given more people food for thought?

pigeonCl-HU profile image
pigeonCl-HU in reply to MissisB

I can see your point, MissisB, but to tell you the truth, I would find it difficult not to acknowledge a post/reply to which I really want to give the 'thumbs up'.

Besides, as CarpeDiem points out, HU did not pin it to each forum.

In this way they have ascertained that resistance would be greatly minimized.

I therefore doubt that 'abstaining' will have a major effect, and the bods who installed the heart, would still get their 'positive' blooming metrics....as artificial and non-representative as they might be!

How annoying is that.

pigeon.

CarpeDiem11 profile image
CarpeDiem11 in reply to pigeonCl-HU

This whole thing makes me wonder, what is it exactly that they are trying to prove? Where did this desire for "loving" something more than "liking it" come from (Perhaps they work for McDonalds on the side?- joking of course!!!)? I must say I don't understand the thinking behind it. Anyway, based on what Laura says happened before, it looks as if our thoughts will become an idea some of us explored, but everyone else remained oblivious to and so it became a "thing". I too want to acknowledge peoples' posts, but will live in hope of the return of the thumbs up.

HissingSid profile image
HissingSid

I believe in the principle of KISS (Keep It Short and Simple) so why not remove the option of “like” or “love” and just let us reply to a post. That way we are not showing any emotion towards a post and the content of the reply will determine if the post is liked or hated. If it is thought necessary to show how many have read the post then use a symbol of a book. This site is beginning to resemble Facebook or Instagram with emojis indicating like, love, funny, sad or angry. We’ll be having an image of red lips next indicating kisses next!

Really it doesn't say love this post it says: ♡ Like this post, so is quite innocuous.

My concern was it might encourage the lonely hearts, but I think that it is friendly and is understood across the world so it's grown on me.

I'm sorry to disagree with some here but its not racist sexist ageist unfriendly or offensive so let's take it in the spirit that it was meant, as to represent...Like ♡

IndigoBlue61 profile image
IndigoBlue61

Have HU had chance to read through all these replies Hidden ? I am not using the ❤️ for the reasons expressed above and would welcome a return to the thumbs up. After a week I would hope you could check the biometrics, although with no alternative I suspect most people are still using the ❤️ as they haven’t noticed

This is what the blue emoji represents:

💙 Blue Heart

I have full confidence in you! Represents platonic love, faithfulness, loyalty and friendship.

So a blue outlined heart sounds perfect to me...♡

Zest profile image
Zest

Hi Hidden

Thanks for explaining the changes. I have been considering my thoughts on it, and realise that essentially I don't think I've paid too much attention to the 'symbols' in the past - and have clicked on the 'like' button because it says 'Like' - i.e. I think I paid attention to the semantics of the word, rather than the potential meaning of any symbols next to it.

However, I do find that since the change has been made, that I actually do genuinely 'like' the heart symbol, and personally prefer it to the thumb's up symbol. I don't regard my pressing of that button as meaning that I 'love' a person or necessarily 'love' what they are saying, but when I press it, I do 'like it' and 'acknowledge it' and I feel the heart symbol represents something positive. I am certainly continuing to use it.

Zest :-)

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