If food be your medicine then what are they?
What foods fight inflamation? Give food nice flavour and are relatively cheap?
What are you favourite? I challenge you to name one!
Ginger has many healing qualities for the gut, inflamation, arthritis and blood. Many studies out there and happy for people to add them to this post. Here is just one youtu.be/VFa1_LqFQ10 simple guide
Healthy evidence help me...
I've posted here before but I think most people find what I do too extreme to their way of thinking. But I would suggest that you try my approach for 28 days in that time your taste buds will adjust and you will be feeling the benefits. Remember in the beginning you will feel worse as the toxins are eliminated. We eat whole food plant based with little salt, sugar and NO oil. The whole diet is anti inflammatory. It's not something I've made up it has been scientifically proven. I followed the work of Drs John McDougall, Michael Greger, Michael Klapper,Dean Ornish,Esseltyn,Campbell,Alan Goldhamer,Doug Lisle and numerous others who have used food to treat disease. As Hippocrates said let food be thy medicine. My husbands arthritis disappeared after 3 weeks. We are in our 60s and have never felt healthier and fitter. That's besides the enormous benefits of weight loss while eating all you want to satisfy your hunger. Everything we have been told is turned on its head. But it tells you something when large corporations in the USA are sending staff to these Drs seminars because their staff become fitter and healthier and it reduces time off and medical insurance.
So do you have a link or you tube channel telling your story or stuff you learned and experienced.
All the above Drs have their own websites. As far as I am aware they all have YouTubes. The film Forks over Knives made in 2011 I personally think is one of the most forceful representations. You can see this on YouTube and Netflix. My special favourite is Dr John McDougall whose book the Starch solution is a brilliant easy factual read. He makes a weekly thursday webinar available on YouTube and his website discussing his thoughts and medical facts. Dr Michael Greger makes daily videos at Nutrition.org. Unfortunately I am not tech savvy and don't know how to put up links. Sorry. Of course the book that really got everyone talking is The China study. It is not an easy read like the Starch solution or Michael Greger's How not to die. It is for the medically minded but none the less it is worth persevering with. How not to die is a bible of what to eat and why for every medical condition.. All these books are filled with solid scientific proven medical facts.
thanks i will certainly take a look at those recommendations. they shouldnt be to hard to find, love grace xoxo
Just watched Food to Fork and liked it but some foods are contentious but overall I get it. Less hormal/fatty meat/fish and more green veg with rainbow veg and starches can be revolutionary, was a devotee of the disgraced Dr Robert O Young ph miracle (he is in jail for taking his claims too far) and so there is a lot of crossover. The best thing about F2F is that it more food and almost no supplements. Will check out the other stories too.
That is not a study; it's a youtube video. Do you have links to the studies that back up claims for ginger?
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if you want to read a study on ginger help yourself . its good for us.
That study appears to show that ginger has some anti-inflammatory properties, but it does not show that it has beneficial effects on humans, particularly not those claimed in the OP. It doesn't look like, on first glance, that the study reviewed any RCTs on humans. The conclusion also states:
"This review concludes to favor ginger but some ambiguities necessitate further research before claiming its efficacy."
i see your posts are all about telling people that what they talk about has not been proved. bye.
I frequently show that the evidence presented does not support the claims being made so that people have the information they need to make fully informed healthcare choices. Is that a problem? Surely it's not good for people to be misled?
no its not good that people be misled. however many of us have good experience with ginger for a variety of reasons its not as if some new herb that no one has ever heard of is being praised as the new wonder drug, i know for a fact the ginger has helped me and i continute to take it. just as i said that accupunture had helped me and you said it was not proved i remember you. there are many things that are proven like some of those mediicines that doctors are giving out that cause more harm than good. i'd see the point if you were really trying to be helpful but your posts are just closed mided in my opinion. and im not going to reply to you again.
Why do you believe your experience trumps higher quality evidence?
Can you also say how you think problems with any other medicine changes the evidence for ginger?
By the way, my mind is fully open: I'm willing to change my mind when presented with good quality evidence. How about you? What would change your mind about, say, acupuncture or ginger?
well you go and look for your own evedince as your the septic not me i dont need convinced it does helps me then thats good enough for me. the benefits of lemon in hot water has not been proven to be benefcially but the amount of peole who drink it first thing is the morning is huge. its get one moveing to the toilet for a start. why would i change my mind about accunpuncture when its also helping me. i dont reply to negative posts and all your posts are arguemenative and negative that i had read
I don't need to provide any evidence at all: I'm not the one making the claims. The burden of proof lies with those making the claims, not those who dare ask a question about it.
But do you think it's odd that when claims are made, any request to back them up ends either up with evidence that doesn't substantiate the claims or responses such as yours?
But it looks like you've just confirmed who it is who is more closed minded. That is a pity, because there really is quite a bit that could be discussed about the likes of ginger.
Food for health theory has little money in it. Big Pharma can charge thousands and make millions/billions from the same source and like you say synthesise/chemicalise a part of the original "active ingredient(s)" so in the end you lose something and gain chemicals that can hurt you more. then take more drugs to compensate. If a big company is not funding the science then scientists can only get paid by a vested interest. Hence, we ask the questions and pray for sensible answers because clever people created a game where absolute proof means more than common-sense and then you find out the research that Big Pharma used was flawed anyway and people were paid off. Then people attack common-sense which is proven to be more important than absolutes. No one ever gets 100% all the time for everything but patterns are easy to see.
7.8. SUMMARY AND CONCLUSIONS
Ginger is not only an extremely popular dietary condiment used for flavoring food but also an herb that has been used for thousands of years as a medicinal herb to treat a variety of ailments. Chemical and metabolic analyses have revealed that ginger comprises hundreds of compounds and metabolites. The most extensively studied bioactive components include gingerols and shogaols, especially [6]-gingerol and [6]-shogaol, respectively. The content of each component is clearly dependent on the source and preparation of the ginger rhizome. Research interest in determining the role of natural compounds in preventing disease has increased markedly over the last few years. In spite of the abundance of research studies, many of the results are phenomenon based and provide data that are descriptive and observational rather than mechanistic. More studies are needed in animals and humans on the kinetics of ginger and its constituents and on the effects of consumption over a long period of time. Specific molecular targets and mechanisms of action need to be identified. Ginger clearly has a vast number of components and metabolites, many of which have not been studied in detail. The lack of standardization of ginger supplements is disconcerting, and whether consumption of high levels of isolated components (e.g., [6]-gingerol) is advisable is uncertain. [6]-gingerol or other ginger components might require inter-reactivity or dependency on other components in the whole food source to exert their positive effects.
Research data indicate that ginger and its constituents accumulate in the gastrointestinal tract, which supports the many observations of ginger’s effectiveness as an antinausea agent and as a possible colon cancer-preventing compound. Ginger acts as a potent antioxidant in vitro and ex vivo, but the data are not obvious for in vivo application and specific targets and mechanisms are lacking. Ginger appears to exert anti-inflammatory effects by suppressing COX-2 with subsequent inhibition of prostaglandin and leukotriene biosynthesis. On the other hand, the data supporting the effectiveness of ginger in alleviating pain and swelling associated with arthritis are somewhat conflicting. The most common use of ginger is to alleviate the vomiting and nausea associated with pregnancy, chemotherapy, and some types of surgery. The clinical data undoubtedly indicate that ginger is at least as effective, and may be better, than vitamin B6 in treating these symptoms. Again, mechanisms are lacking, but no reports indicate that ginger has any adverse side effects or that it can worsen illness in pregnant women or patients. Interest in ginger as an anticancer agent has markedly increased over the last few years and a direct protein target has been identified in colon cancer. Ginger also appears to reduce cholesterol and improve lipid metabolism, thereby helping to decrease the risk of cardiovascular disease and diabetes.
In summary, ginger has been reported to possess diverse pharmacological properties, although its specific biological targets are largely unknown and remain to be determined. However, in spite of the lack of specific mechanistic information, use of ginger appears to be safe and its effects are mighty and amazing in its many applications.
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Remember most prescription medicine comes from an extract of a plant they know already has a proven significant affect on the local population and the issue is then always proving beyond reasonable doubt why. Sunshine (Vit D) has proven to be the most cost effective medicine to speed recovery and preventative of many ailments. Finding a definitive study over common-sense is really hard. Somebody will be a refuse-nik whatever. People still smoke tobacco etc...
Some certainly do have their origins in plants but most drugs these days are synthesised (even aspirin) and even those that were once derived from plants may or may not have been based on some traditional knowledge. The problem with common sense is that it is not a reliable source!
So you trust RCT's lol
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Reliable source - Big Pharma loves you
very well done on finding this video.
proves nothing lol
does it not prove that we cant trust clinical trials.
SupernNev if this video proves nothing why did you post it as im getting confused now. 😂 im just joe soap who loves ginger and garlic and even bicarb soda Oh and vinegar with the mother in.
Sorry my style is self-mocking. I believe in the video. The central truth of proof is in the eye of the beholder as well as some fair double blinds. Our refuse-nik would say it proves nothing so just laughing at that. Most of the things we are told are necessary and told are reliable turn out to be money making exercises and that power of influence is how the world is. Look at the margerine market and indigestible fats. I love your other ideas. Ginger, Garlic and Bi-Carb I know very well and know vinegar has its uses. How do you use Bi-Carb and Vinegar?
The health-promoting perspectives of ginger are well known. It can treat a wide range of diseases via immunonutrition and anti-inflammatory responses. As a result of anti-inflammatory effect of ginger, it can reduce muscle pain after intense physical activity. Likewise, the anticancer potential of ginger is well documented and its functional ingredients like gingerols, shogaol, and paradols are the valuable ingredients which can prevent various cancers, angiogenesis and metastasis, induction of apoptosis, and inhibition of cell-cycle progression. Besides these, it improves cardiovascular disorders, diabetes mellitus, and gastrointestinal health.
This review concludes to favor ginger but some ambiguities necessitate further research before claiming its efficacy.
this is the conclusion of the study i left in the link below.
Guys, we are delighted to have studies listed and I am asking for help finding them on this forum as we hope the talent is here to help. Some people believe some do not even with the studies but so many foods have a dramatic effect on health. Remember the British were called Limeys because the fruit of lime cured scurvy and clearly is not a packaged medicine. There must be many more. I will probably post about vampire killer - garlic next.
im posting that to face book and twitter.people are interested in things like this.
A bit fluffy but makes sense so check this out too youtu.be/s2hLhWSlOl0
The other side of the coin.
Cool, I am listening to a TedTalk on the root cause of most illness and seems to be a very curious tale. So now it's the playing with arranging chairs on the Titanic - lol.
Now its 10% chance your medication will kill you or 90% chance it won't depending on your ideology. However, preventable diseases will be c80% of our risk in the Western world. So the side of the coin we know about.
any source for recipies for ginger in regular daily food that masks taste of ginger
Cabbage juice I found amazing. I can't say it's a tasty flavour. More like gulping down liquid farts holding your nose... But helped inflammation so much more than expensive and fancy superfoods I've tried. And super cheap and easy. Yoy have to leave it for a few minutes for enzymes to develop and as you do so it starts to smeel quite rank. But adding parsley or ginger masks the fart flavour lol! And weirdly it didn't actually make me fart which was nice.
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