Natural therapy

[CP2216x]

I have aspergilloma since July, I cannot have therapy only surgery ,because drugs cannot reach my fongus.Did anyone have an idea for natural treatment to avoid surgery?thank you!

[Richard_Catalyst]

First: Where is your fungus located ? Mine is aspergillosis in a void left by near fatal pneumonia.

I saw my doctors and a fresh cat scan last week, and am very happy that the fungus has shrunk about 10 per cent, with it's connecting tissues (to my lung's blood vessels) also shrinking markedly. I saw this with my own eyes.

This is about four months after starting Vorconizole (spelling ??). However, after hearing my docs badmouth Colloidal Silver, and ignore a research study re Ceylon Cinnamon Oil, I have used both for three months. The Colloidal Silver is 8.1 nanometer sized particles, and tests at 18-22 parts per million. I use it in a nebulizer and in a spray bottle, into nose and mouth as I inhale.

Having read about ceylon cinnamon iol, I bot some on Amazon, which is wonderful, and very strong. Mixed it with organic coconut oil to dilute it, and put it on my lips and around my nostrils, so the fumes, which kill Aspergillosis cells in labs, reach the fungus. I love the fragrance.

Not sure what is working, but something is, perhaps all three. The docs say they have not researched these things which cannot be patented, tho do not say anything else.

Good luck, Richard

[Cindyfayth in reply to Richard_Catalyst]

Hi there. Colladral silver has been my saviour. You can spray it every where. It's definitely one of the best things I have used.

[Richard_Catalyst in reply to Cindyfayth]

Hi, Cindy, I use Colloidal Silver daily as a spray in my eyes, on my face and inhaled both nasally and orally, to get it into my lungs and so continue killing the Aspergilliosis.

Also ingest about a tablespoon each day. Mine is 18 ppm and 8 nano-sized 'particles'.

Ceylon Cinnamon pure oil fumes also kill at least five forms of Aspergilliosis.

Mother Nature knows best, I believe. My CT scan showed positive results ! !

[GAtherton Administrator Fungal Infection Trust in reply to Richard_Catalyst]

As with many 'herbal' preparations it is relatively easy to identify an antimicrobial activity in a laboratory dish but much less easy to show it is effective in people.

Antimicrobial activity as most people will know depends on getting the right dose into the infected area. This is easy with a cream or liquid intended to be used on the skin, but when you are telling people to take the drug orally for use against a deeper infection it is massively diluted and is usually useless by the time it might reach the infection. Much more work is needed to make it effective.

If indeed an oil of cinnamon could be used against aspergillosis then we would be using it at the National Aspergillosis Centre. We don't because it needs to be demonstrated that it will work much as I have just explained.

Cinnamon IS effective against the fungus Aspergillus, but as yet no work has shown that a preparation of cinnamon is effective against the deep infection called aspergillosis.

NB Research on Cinnamon was recently reviewed - it has many useful activities but it is rarely used in clinic yet because there are still better treatment options available as determined by the end clinical result for the patient. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

Mother nature also produces the most toxic substances known to man, so adopting a view that anything that comes from nature is kinder to our bodies is a dangerous view. Remember the thing that nature knows best is how to kill!

I have talked about colloidal silver elsewhere in this thread.

[GAtherton Administrator Fungal Infection Trust]

It is good to hear that treatment is helping. Silver is widely used for topical application so wound dressings etc as it has an antiseptic effect. There is some experimental work on using it as an irrigation for sinus infection too, but not related to fungal infection.

The main concern with colloidal silver when taken as a liquid is that it has toxic effects like any other drug but we have no good idea what is in the product you are using as it is not regulated or quality controlled (there must be hundreds of different preparations), so we cannot tell people to use it as we have no guidance on safety or efficacy for a given product. Some people have acquired very blue skin from its use systemically - search Google with '

Systemic argyria ' to find numerous cases.

[Betaji in reply to GAtherton]

Sir,

I understand without a solid proof you will not acknowledge the importance of herbs but it is reality that even most drug is not working well on patient even though they were medical evidence.so the main thing is that the medical science never deny the herbs and rather they should add it along with normal drug treatment.

The ultimate goal is to cure the patient irrespective of their mode..

Here I saw most of the patient are acknowledging the benifts.

As in this thread the size of aspergillosis reduced significantly but despite if that you are discouraging people .

What your drug is doing .what the medical research team is doing

[GAtherton Administrator Fungal Infection Trust in reply to Betaji]

On the contrary I could list many herbs that contain substances that are highly beneficial - there is a list of irreplaceable drugs in use today that come from plants and microbes.

The difficulties lie in the production and labelling of herbal remedies that make misleading claims about efficacy, or purposefully neglect to explain how a preparation might be properly used where it might have some benefit. Instead the focus is often on sales.

For example a comment was made earlier in this thread that cinnamon is affective against '5 types of aspergillosis'. Such a comment potentially leads a lot of people away from (expensive) prescription medication and towards far cheaper herbal preparations. In fact there is no such evidence so such a comment is potentially highly harmful. The evidence when you read it is that cinnamon has some activity against five Aspergillus species in a laboratory dish, and that is a long way from being a substance that will be effective against a deep fungal infection such as aspergillosis.

In simple terms you have to be able to give the patient enough active substance that they can eat easily every day which would provide an effective dose at the site of infection (usually deep in lung tissue), and with most herbs that would mean eating a lot of leaves or oil every day - it might be effective if the patient could tolerate it (yes there would be side effects) but would likely be very impractical. Patients would have to eat so much because once eaten the drug is distributed around the entire body, diluting it massively (e.g. if you provide 1 gram of drug to an 85 kilogram person it would be diluted 1 in 85 000) and rendering it useless.

This is why drug companies have to identify and isolate the active ingredient so they can provide it as a highly concentrated tablet/capsule/liquid.

Where herbal preparation stand more of a chance of working is in topical applications for the skin/hair for example. A cream is usually not diluted when in use.

We partially cover this subject here aspergillus.org.uk/content/... but we are also working on providing some detail to remedy this for one particular patient group (Aspergillosis), so that those patients will be able to make informed choices.

[Betaji in reply to GAtherton]

I think ,

This is the failure of medical research if we can't able to cute abpa.we have a cure for cancer but not for abpa..

Still medical science is focusing on managing the condition .