No hope

[Frussy]

tested today again (11 days past transfer ) and definitely there is a BFN 😢

Is look like is over again for me

I just don't understand why is not implanting, I did everything what I could, eat pineapple, nuts, vitamins, everything what I could hear 😩

This is the 3rd transfer that is just not implanted 😢..i start to wonder if actually is a problem with my womb? All my three embys look good quality, everything was looking perfect this time

We still have 2 frozen but after all this role coaster year i lost all the hopes and convince myself that will never happen and baby's are not for me 😭😢😢😢

[Fingerscrossed38]

Have you had the uterine treats? ERA? Maybe do a scratch & embryo glue next time? What is your Dr saying after each failure? Are they doing anything differently for each transfer? Are your blastocysts pgs tested? Sorry you've had this heartache.

[just-here-to-talk]

Frussy, I know its difficult. Believe me I know. Open your heart and mind and try not to pressure yourself. What ever happens happens but know there is life after this if it doesn't work out. Main thing to do is to live, avoid negative people, make good and bad decisions and remember that you live your life through your own eyes.

[Frussy in reply to just-here-to-talk]

Thank you so much for your kind words

I never thought that ivf journey can be so difficult

Before I started wasn't so depressed about because I knew I have my tubes blocked and is not going to happen

But when we started this journey had so many hopes on my first cycle like that one was my chance finally to be a mother 😢. Now I know that Good choose a different path for me. I will go ahead still with next transfer but with no hopes and with my heartbroken 😢❤️

[just-here-to-talk in reply to Frussy]

Take some time to get yourself right. You've been through alot so give yourself some credit. Do some things that make you happy for a while before you have another go and reset your mind. Don't give up hope if it's what you really want though. Non of us choose to be how we are but we do choose how to deal with it. Never surrender is my philosophy. Good luck ✊

[Cinderella5]

Im so sorry! Its so hard to keep going when you keep getting knocked down with BFN's, I had 4 of them in a row and some were even with the best grading of blastocysts that you can get. Unfortunately nobody knows which embryo will implant regardless of the gradings which is a very bitter pill to swallow. Has you clinic tried amending your protocols at all? For me, I had a hysterscopy with some scar tissue cut away, added in blood thinners (clexane injections), next time I had intralipids, time after that prednisolone and an extra day of progesterone - 6 full days of progesterone instead of transfering on the 5th day of progesterone. On my next transfer I got a BFP although didnt last and again on my 6th transfer. So basically Im not sure what has made the difference but I got my BFP after adding in prednisolone and an extra day of progesterone. We have since discovered that my progesterone levels are pretty low so I need more progesterone support and will be on injections next time and they will check my levels on transfer day. I cant say for sure what made the difference but I would say both things, the steriod if your clinic will let you try them in my opinion are worth a shot as Ive seen a few ladies have success using them (been here a long time) however you need adequate levels of progesterone for implantation too. Give me a shout if you want to ask anything. sending massive hugs, I know how hard it is to pick yourself up and keep going.xxx

[Frussy]

Thank you so much for your reply

All my 3 transfers so far were delayed with 2-3 days and in my personal opinion in do think was a little too late but I am not a doctor to actually know if that one was a reason

I keep reading on Google and the transfer should be a few days after ovulation but in my last one had the transfer on day 26 of my cycle were in 2 days after basically was expecting my period, had progesterone done on the day of egg collection that was ok

My doctor keeps saying that we did everything right but sometimes is just about luck 😢

On this one had the clexane injection as well for the first week after transfer plus progesterone start with the egg collection 400 mg a day

[Cinderella5]

I think you had a fresh cycle....yes? If you have down regulated with nasal spray or injections and then stimmed it doesnt matter when you have your transfer done as the clinic have full control of our body and ovulation doesnt take place so the day of transfer doesnt matter as your bodys natural cycle has been cancelled out - the down regulation drugs at the start put you in a fake menopause. There is a whole heap of luck involved wih this so the Dr is correct, its just that sometimes there are other little things that could be tweaked....you can discuss at your review with your Dr some of the things like prednisolone.xx

[Hidden]

I am so sorry it didn't work this cycle. This probably will be zero help at all at the moment but sometimes it does just come down to luck, and there isn't necessarily a reason. You are in a great position to have 2 more frozen and there is potentially no reason why it won't work next time. This fertility lark is a horrible thing because we don't always get answers or solutions. Take time to deal with this disappointment but then try and focus on next cycle. I have friends its worked on 4th cycle, 7th cycle, 9th cycle etc and they didn't do anything different - that was just 'the one' - so your next one could easily be 'the one'

Hugs and luck to you xx

[Frussy in reply to Hidden]

Thank you all

I am so happy found you girls in this difficult time, help me so much to read so many beautiful words from all of you

Help is much to put me together and look a little more positive for the next transfer

I will give myself some time before that

[just-here-to-talk in reply to Frussy]

Not that it makes a difference but I'm a guy. I found out I had zero sperm about 7 years ago so no chance of me ever having children. I'm happy now though. Happier than I've ever been but for those who have a chance I say keep on fighting.

[Noah1981]

Gutted for you darling genuinely gutted there is lots of us on the same step on that stair case and I promise you we will not get stuck there because we are all due to move on up .Just be kind to yourself for a little while get the head back in focus of what you so badly want and next time you will be that bit stronger .Your not alone we are all rooting for each other sending big virtual hugs darling don’t beat yourself up trust me it gets us no where I cried and asked what did I do wrong was it something I done that I shouldn’t and I think the answer is that’s just fertility that’s just Mother Nature saying not our time just yet but it will happen xxx

[Hidden]

I am so sorry to hear you news, sending you lots of love and hugs 😘reading your post is like I could have written It myself, i have been in same position we are on our 4th cycle and this is our third transfer and up to now I have not had any bfp and like you every time I test my heart sinks and breaks that little bit harder and I convince myself it is never going to work and that the problem is with me as it won’t implant and how stupid am I to think this going to work. All I will say is you will start to feel better it will just take some time to essentially grieve but you will get there and then you can start to focus on your next cycle, write all your questions down ready for your cycle review and if you have access to it ( I do as part of my cycle) it may help to speak to a counseller she was lovely and whilst it didn’t take the hurt away it did help. You still have 2 frozen which is a great position to be in and these could just be the little ones that choose you to be their lovely mum, take care xx

[Frussy in reply to Hidden]

Thank you so much for your advice

I will try to speak this time with my doctor on the next appointment to see if we can change something this time, tuck some ideas from all the answers that I got so far in here and I will go to ask if we can try embryo glue or anything different this time

I am through the NHS so I don't know if will give us anything different apart from estrogen and progesterone suppository 😢but if we need to pay extra for something added on this time I will

Have so many questions in my head feel like is spinning all the time

I read so much on the Internet about embryo failure and got me so confused 😖

I wonder if I have hydrosalpinx in my left tube and can be toxic for the embryo, or if the timing was right, or if I need an endometrial scratch or glue

I am so sorry 💔 for you and all the heroes women from here that are going and going through all the pain of negative testing after so much hope

I know so well the feeling of a heartbroken 😢💔and pray for all of us for a happy ending and an angel 👶in our arms ❤️xxxx

[Hidden in reply to Frussy]

Your so welcome, we get scratch and embryo glue included in our package personally I am not sure if it makes a difference or not but hey anything worth a try. Our Hospital is really good I don’t feel like they push to take extras out which is important and we are private but thru same hospital where we did our 1 free round. I know what u mean bout questions I wrote all my down on paper which helped. As u say u can ask and say u will pay to put ur mind at rest. It sounds like u have some great questions to ask and this focus will also help u heal as u will start to have a plan ready for ur review meeting and from this u will have some next steps which I think will help none of this of course will take away the pain and hurt but having focus will help. U r doing well and are a strong lady so just make sure you are not being too hard on urself. Take care xx