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Hi, do anyone have a online pdf copy of Lee hull's book. I've been wanting to read on it for my mother. I do not have a credit card to purchase it online and I hope someone can help.

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citruskayaker

Basically his books promote a low protein or very low protein vegetarian diet that was adopted by the National Kidney Foundation. Find a renal dietician for your mother if she is willing to work with one. They often know as much or more than a nephrologist about dietary changes. Her diet depends on what other conditions she may have with diabetes being the worst co-morbidity. Try to find his books in a library near you. Also look at the NKF for diet guidance.

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Tony_Mimicted in reply to citruskayaker

Hi, thanks for answering but the issue is we cannot find a renal dietitian here. I'm in Fiji, which only has about 3 nephrologist in the whole country. She only has hypertension diagnosed 3 years ago and osteoarthritis of her hips. Currently we're trying for only a full plant based diet, but I want to know which foods should I try and increase in her diet and help her be better

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WYOAnne

There have been a lot of discussions on this site regarding Hull's book. You would be much better off looking at the NKF's website for more info on your kidneys and for diet guidance as citruskayaker suggested. You can also sign up for "kidney school" at davita.com

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orangecity41 in reply to WYOAnne

Agree as our diets can be different and just doing a generalized CKD diet might not be good idea. My CKD diet was prescribed by my General Practitioner based on other blood work than the eGFR only.

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Bet117 in reply to orangecity41

Absolutely. Each patient is different with different combined medical conditions/ needs and therefore diet needs to cover all bases. I did see a renal dietician for basics, but my GP and Nephrologist have had input on my plant based diet.

Books may give patients ideas and food suggestions but agreed; best bet is to review with a professional.

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silverfox81

Plant based is the way to go if you want to help your mother. want to keep animal portions to 3 oz or less per meal. I have read Lee Hulls book and it does have some good information in there but he is a big proponent of the very low protein diet which is very expensive to do if you take the ketoacid supplements he sells. All of the studies that have been done on very low protein diets show that less than 15 percent of people that get on them can actually stay on it. Your mother needs to get her blood pressure under control and she needs to be working with a dr in order to achieve that. Hopefully she is under the care of a Primary Care Physician there in Fiji for high blood pressure because that will eventually damage the kidneys and cause protein leakage in the urine over time and will gradually make any kidney problems she has worse. So here is what I would do:1. Find Dr. to help get blood pressure under control and to get labs done so she knows what stage she is in and if she has protein in the urine and other tests to asses her situation.

2. Eat a kidney friendly diet which can include small portions of meat and animal products depending on what stage she is in. Below is a link for a good youtube channel on kidney diets.

youtube.com/watch?v=TifDx7n...

I would let you borrow my Lee Hull book but its in my kindle and not a PDF. Honestly, save your money its not worth buying in my opinion. There is lots of free credible information out there and books to read.

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Tony_Mimicted in reply to silverfox81

Thank you very much, we're gonna a have another visit on the 18th so I'll see what happens then, right now my mum and I have been on a vegan or vegetarian diet, without meat and focusing mostly on plant foods. What's reassuring is that there seems not to be that much foam in her urine anymore

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orangecity41 in reply to silverfox81

Very informative You Tube, thanks for sharing. My GP prescribed the max of protein and I track my diet.

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Catpuss66

The only other thing to mention is your mother happy on a plant based diet? Dependant in her age what is causing her ckd, her quality of life is just as important. No point changing her diet completely if it makes her very miserable, small changes can be just as important. I have x2 autoimmune diseases in my kidneys which in turn causes hypertension, on anti hypertensives, been told at present 3b diet is not going to help as the underlying disease is still there, I have reduced protein & salt but not completely. I Might be wrong but I can only share my experience. Best of luck

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Tony_Mimicted in reply to Catpuss66

While she's more inclined to eat meat and has a very good appetite, she is also very serious about her health and when she first was being diagnosed as hypertensive, she almost completely removed salt from her diet. Right now I'm allowing my mum to take occasionally meats from fish and chicken and sometimes eggs but we're limiting it to a small portion

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