This is just a chat really. I was surprised to learn that males suicides have increased. That they are mainly committed by men 78% and that they are 40-65 range. Its surprising that this is really the only forum I've found that men can discuss their concerns. To get things off their chest on a regular basis.
There also s obviously the Samaritans which have been in my experience been very good and helpful.
I have no real value in the world. I have to make some effort to try and socialise and be part of group whether it be physical or interest. There are too many men alone, just go in a pub. It's not a happy experience. I go in their just to be around people.
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Hi Humphrey, yes it is really good that we have this forum and also that you can put how you feel into words on the forum. Yes i can understand you going to the pub to have people around you; sometimes i go and sit in a cafe for the same reason . You seem to have a low opinion of yourself I have noticed. I am very very tired myself today, have had my meds changed and so can't write too much but did want you to know I had read your post and I hope it can help a bit being able to tell us how you are feeling.
Hi , Nice post - but try and look at the bigger picture for example:: young people who kill themselves my daughter told me just the other day that somebody she knows hung himself in the Halls of Residence in Uni the other day in his room only 20 years old (hushed up though not to upset other students) And reading a lot of posts of this site I am really concerned over the amount of young people requiring support from a site like this just show's you its our young people who seem to be at risk why? i could write a book on the subject so i will stop here. jue1. Its a concern why this age group of men 78% that seems high
maybe social factors but who knows? certainly not stress Women do all the work ha ha jue1
I hope those students get offered some counselling. Hushing things up rarely works, just makes people stop communicating. Secrets usually get out anyway. Better they are open and help people deal with the issue than leave everyone feeling confused and possibly guilty at not preventing it. Not that I'm suggesting you tell them this, but I'm concerned your daughter may need some help and feel she can't talk about it.
It's not surprising. I'm now in that age range and I don't have my life what I'd call 'sorted'. When all around me most people do. When you've got no assets, only debts and things don't seem to be looking up you can get really down, to the point where you wonder if it's worth going on. I've made a lot of mistakes in my career, a lot of it but not all is down to having a bad personal life. Even so that doesn't warrant the severe lack of breaks I've had in my life. I'm no 'victim' but I don't deserve life being this hard.
Hi Warren, Stick with it. Life can be good. What would make you feel good today? When ever I feel really down I listen to birds in a park or watch porridge on TV. All the best Andy
I agree Warren218 --- The Government did not take the Student Loans in England seriously enough I am sure the long term in pack will come back to haunt them its called calmer / what go around comes around!!! Young people in England and Wales have a raw deal currently.
Watch this space. (People will just leave the country or never pay the loans back) and surly will not vote!!
Hi Warren stick with it and don't compare yourself to anyone. We are all
Individuals and we all have a different personality and genetic code .
Going through this will make you well able to cope later on as sometimes
People who never had a problem then they cannot cope when have a problem.
Warren are you getting support? I hope you are and please look after yourself
And just be yourself.
Warm hugs
Hannah x
Hello Humphrey
We are always here for a chat and support if you need it. We can generally understand the reasons and give a listening ear
The reasons for Male Suicide generally fall in several main groups and really I feel that most should just be passed over and therefore we need to worry about ourselves and understand we need to know where we can get support. I am sixty five soon and still I understand my age is one of those that people suffer at least a try-on when they reach for the pension book.
Personally I would imagine that many suicide attempts are screams for help that do go wrong.
BOB
Hello Humphrey
I do not go into the Pubs any- more although I like a beer and a malt whisky, or a couple of bottles of pear cyder. Generally I try and look into something to do with mental health. or with my GP Surgery PPG etc.
that seems to help me feel I am doing some good and the Think Tanks and associated positions I hold keep me on the straight and narrow and I then feel I do some good for others with problems far worse than my own. Although with time the NHS expect more of its volunteers as time goes by. I meet some very nice people on these does and that helps me put my disabilities into some form of order
BOB
I think it is much easier and acceptable even in this day and age for a man to go into the pub on his own. I generally wouldn't but I do to my local sometimes as I know quite a few people there. I do envy men their freedom sometimes.
I understand why suicide is a leading cause of death in men of a certain age as they generally find it harder than women to admit they have a problem, then to talk about it. Is it the male ego? I don't know. If you look on any depression site there are a lot more women than men.
Also mens depression tends to take a different form to womens - ie men externalise more often leading to aggression and drinking whereas women are more likely to internalise their feelings. Aggression and anti social behaviour leads to more antagonising of others. Women find it easier to share their worries with female friends but often men put all their emotional eggs in their partners and if this goes wrong they have no other outlet for their feelings.
I am worried too about all the youngsters who seem to be suffering more mental health problems than ever before and I think this is down to too much choice nowadays and life is too complex and stressful for them. I don't have any answers though.
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