I feel TTFD is unique and maybe shouldn’t be considered as a high dose B1 alternative.

[Gcf51]

*** I ended up with High Blood Pressure taking TTFD. I no longer take TTFD. Based on my experience, I would not recommend TTFD. ***

My latest Update: +* 6/28 day 42 of taking B1 as TTDF:

healthunlocked.com/cure-par...

[Bolt_Upright]

I would agree that TTDF is its own thing.

[Dap1948]

What are you basing this on?! Dr Derrick Lonsdale, the thiamine expert says that all thiamines are the same from a ‘biological activity standpoint’.

[Gcf51 in reply to Dap1948]

I need to look at Dr Derrick Lonsdale's work, maybe he will change what i am thinking. I said Maybe, so what I think is not set in stone.

[Gcf51 in reply to Dap1948]

"The completely non-toxic use of TTFD depends merely on its ability to introduce thiamine into the cells of the body that require its magic. Under these circumstances, the big doses of thiamine are acting like a pharmaceutical by stimulating the missing action. We are not dealing with simple vitamin replacement. This should represent a new era in medicine when nutrient biochemistry takes its place in patient care." hormonesmatter.com/ttfd-thi...

Further from same article: let me state that TTFD bypasses this process... & obtained TTFD from Takeda Chemical Industries in Osaka, Japan, the makers of this product. TTFD is a prescription item in Japan, sold under the commercial name of Alinamin. I have read several publications, showing that it reverses fatigue in both animal and human studies.

Does not change my thoughts....

[Gcf51]

Not sure what you are asking: TTFD Thiamine Tetrahydrofurfuryl Disulfide

[Gcf51]

Thanks, I have a bit of a scatterbrain. I try to remember Furry... Disulf. Title has been corrected.

[Gcf51]

I search for Alinamin and found: amazon.com/Takeda-ALINAMIN-... I was able to put in cart and it looks like I can order. Called: 12X Takeda ALINAMIN EX Plus Vitamin B1 B6 B12 Health Supplementary from Japan 120 Tablets.

Maybe, the B6 and B12 would help keep BP down.

[Gcf51 in reply to Gcf51]

Ordered

[Gcf51]

More info on: Takeda Alinamin EX Plus 180 Tablets japanesetaste.com/products/...

Since I can't read chicken prints, I message them if B1 as in TTDF. I probably can't take the recommend 2-3. In fact I might be in the range of 1 every other day.

[slimweiss]

How did you get a prescription? My HWP neurologist is skeptical of all “supplements” as possibly helping with symptoms.

[Gcf51 in reply to slimweiss]

I don't have a prescription for TTFD nor the stuff othered from Amazon. added, The only supplement ever recommended by neurologist was B1 and he didn't say High Dose.

[slimweiss]

In one of your posts above it says you can order it on Amazon with a prescription. Did you mean “without”?

[Gcf51 in reply to slimweiss]

I will check back and look, I ordered without a prescription.

[Gcf51]

+* Found Info 🙃😷 ALINAMIN EX PLUS... ingredients alinamin-kenko.jp/en/produc... Fursultiamine (vitamin B1 derivative) 100mg (in fursultiamine hydrochloride equivalent, 109.16mg）plus other stuff.... I assume since it says 2 - 3 a day, it is not as active as TTFD.... 🙃😷

As I understand, it is drug in Japan, I ordered without a prescription. Now maybe, I can find some research on it. Some interesting data: alinamin-kenko.jp/en/produc... 🙃😷

Amazon says my order will be (Arriving July 6 - July 8), There's a 99% chance, I will start taking... Somebody has done research on what it takes to make it work. I will probably stop taking all the B vitamins I been taking trying to get TTFD to work for me. Hopefully, I can find my sweet spot quickly.

[slimweiss in reply to Gcf51]

Thank you for the info! I hope it works for you. I’ll keep reading and then will probably order it for my hubby. I feel like he already takes so many things now that I hate to add one more thing. But if it works… 🤷🏽‍♀️

[Gcf51 in reply to slimweiss]

I know what you mean, I take to many things, B1 protocol says not to change anything, so I have not stopped anything. I have not taken any ALINAMIN EX PLUS, not sure if I will. The 1/4th cap of TTFD doesn't seem like enough. But I have only taken for 2days.