Why Does the Medical System Ignore the Importance of Diet? A Fable Told by John Robbins

Why Does the Medical System Ignore the Importance of Diet?  A Fable Told by John Robbins

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Why Does the Medical System Ignore the Importance of Diet?

A Fable Told by John Robbins

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"This fable was part of the 2017 Food Revolution Summit": foodrevolution.org/blog/foo...

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  • John Robbins tells the fable about people falling off the cliff :

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    "Once upon a time, there was a large and rich country where people kept falling over a steep cliff. Theyโ€™d fall to the bottom and be injured, sometimes quite seriously, and many of them died. The nationโ€™s medical establishment responded to the situation by positioning at the base of the cliff the most sophisticated and expensive ambulance fleet ever developed, which would immediately rush those who had fallen to modern hospitals that were equipped with the latest technological wizardry. No expense was too great, they said, when peopleโ€™s health was at stake.

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    Now the idea occurred to certain people that another possibility would be to erect a fence at the top of the cliff. When they voiced the idea, however, they found themselves ignored. The medical authorities explained patiently that while building a fence might seem like an interesting idea, it was actually far from practical, and that health was too important to be left in the hands of people who were not experts. โ€œLeave it to us,โ€ they said, โ€œfor with enough money we will soon be able to genetically engineer people who do not bruise or become injured from such falls.โ€

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    So no fences were built, and as time passed this nation found itself spending an ever-increasing amount of its financial resources on drugs, surgeries, hospitals, and high-tech medical equipment. Money that could have gone to community services, decent housing, education and good food โ€” not to mention building safety fences โ€” was not available to the people, for it was being spent on medical care for people who had fallen over the cliff. As the costs of treating people kept rising, growing numbers of people could not afford medical care. There were increasing numbers of homeless, and there were ever more hungry people, and families torn apart by the stress. Violence, gangs, and inner city riots began to well up as outlets for the frustration and despair people felt.

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    The more people kept falling off the cliff, the more a sense of urgency and tension developed, and the more of the countryโ€™s money was poured into the heroic search for a drug that could be given to those who had fallen to cure their injuries.

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    When a few families who had lost loved ones tried to erect warning signs at the top of the cliff, they were arrested for trespassing. When some of the more enlightened physicians began to say that โ€œFences should be built,โ€ and โ€œWarning signs should be erected,โ€ representatives from powerful industries denounced them as โ€œhealth police.โ€ A fierce battle ensued, and finally, after many compromises, the medical establishment did issue warnings. Anyone, they said, who had already broken both arms and both legs in previous falls should exercise utmost caution when falling."

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    [John Robbins: foodrevolution.org/about-us/ Googled: google.com/search?as_q=&as_... ]

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  • Another fable appears apropos to the difficulty physicians (& patients) face in assessing ailments and in applying suitable treatments:

    ๐Ÿ˜Ž ๐Ÿ˜ "The Blind Men and the Elephant" by John G. Saxe (read by Tom O'Bedlam):

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    A 'truth' perhaps worthy of a repeat:

    ๐Ÿ˜Ž ๐Ÿ˜ John Godfrey Saxe "The Blind Men and the Elephant " Poem animation Indian parable:

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    ๐Ÿ™ ๐Ÿ€ ๐ŸŒบ ๐ŸŒž

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    [Noted previously at post: Placing Dietary & Lifestyle Approaches 'In Context'/ 'In Perspective': healthunlocked.com/nras/pos... ]

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  • 10 Food Myths (in under 10 minutes) according to Dr. Neal Barnard, a plant-based physician.

    10 Deadly Food Myths:

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    Summary:

    1๏ธโƒฃ You can wait โณ to change your diet.

    2๏ธโƒฃ Exercise ๐Ÿ‹๏ธโ€โ™€๏ธ can take the place of a healthful diet ๐Ÿฅ— .

    3๏ธโƒฃ Carbs ๐Ÿ are fattening. Low-carb diets are healthful.

    4๏ธโƒฃ Milk ๐Ÿฅ› prevents bone breaks.

    5๏ธโƒฃ You need red meat ๐Ÿ– for iron.

    6๏ธโƒฃ You need animal products ๐Ÿ— ๐Ÿฅš ๐Ÿ– ๐Ÿง€ ๐Ÿฅ› for protein.

    7๏ธโƒฃ Chicken ๐Ÿ“ is healthier than beef ๐Ÿ‚ .

    8๏ธโƒฃ Salmon is slimming. Fish ๐ŸŸ have "good fat."

    9๏ธโƒฃ A glass of wine ๐Ÿท every day is good for you.

    ๐Ÿ”Ÿ Everything in moderation. ๐Ÿšฌ ๐ŸŒณ ๐ŸŽป

    1๏ธโƒฃ1๏ธโƒฃ Organic doesn't matter. ๐Ÿ’ฆ

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    [From The Lifestyle Medicine Clinic YouTube web page: m.youtube.com/channel/UCTIY... ]

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    Even though these tips/ guidelines aren't tailored toward autoimmuners, I still found these 'generic' plant-based concepts (for the 'general public') helpful & in line with the principles I follow for a more RA/ autoimmune tailored diet/lifestyle. ๐Ÿ‘

    Hope it proves useful to you too. โ˜บ๏ธ

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    ๐Ÿ™ ๐Ÿ€ ๐ŸŒบ ๐ŸŒž

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    [For more on Dr. Neal Barnard: Dean Ornish, Neal Barnard, T. Colin Campbell, Caldwell Esselstyn, John McDougall, Michael Klaper, Michael Greger: healthunlocked.com/nras/pos... ]

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  • Additional practical insights & food tips from Dr. Neal Barnard, in context of "What the Health" documentary:

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    Debunking "What the Health" Film with Dr. Neal Barnard (27 minutes):

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  • Description:

    "Published on Aug 10, 2017

    Plant Based News interviewed vegan doctor Neal Barnard (President of the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine) recently about plant-based nutrition, diet myths and recent controversy surrounding the film 'What The Health'

    Along with Dr. Michael Greger, Dr. John McDougall and Alan Goldhamer, Dr. Barnard was also interviewed as part of our Why Doctors Don't Recommend Veganism series, which can be seen here: m.youtube.com/playlist?list...

    Follow PCRM's facebook page: facebook.com/PCRM.org/

    PCRM Nutrition in Medicine Conference: pcrm.org/icnm2017 . . . "

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    ๐Ÿ™ ๐Ÿ€ ๐ŸŒบ ๐ŸŒž

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    [For supplemental info on "What the Health" film, kindly see post: healthunlocked.com/cure-art... ]

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  • Dr. John McDougall's perspective on Inflammatory Arthritis (& our current 'medical systems') as interviewed by RA-er (journalist) Sumit Bose: Rheumatoid Arthritis | Eating myself healthy Ep.7:

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    โ€ข Dr. John McDougall: Arthritis: drmcdougall.com/health/educ...

    โ€ข John A. McDougall MD: Inflammatory Arthritis: drmcdougall.com/health/educ...

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    ๐Ÿ™ ๐Ÿ€ ๐ŸŒบ ๐ŸŒž

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  • If you're interested in lifestyle/ dietary approaches tailored to RA/ Autoimmune healing & pain relief, additional thoughts for consideration are at "Guide for Rheumatologists" V 1.5.6 (for 'Paddison Program'-ers): healthunlocked.com/ra-warri...

    If you scroll downward on page, you'll see: Without Wings (The Manx Autoimmune Arthritis Trust) โ€” Exclusive Interview: Clint Paddison (7/17/2017) ( withoutwings.weebly.com/new... ). Text added (in 4 segments) along with reference links for easy referral. ๐Ÿ™ ๐Ÿ€ ๐ŸŒบ ๐ŸŒž

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    Journalist Sumit Bose, Another* RA-er Who's Documenting His RA Journey

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    "Eating Myself Healthy โ€” Can a Diet Cure Rheumatoid Arthritis?":

    m.youtube.com/channel/UC5W3...

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    Sumit Bose's YouTube channel (with 7 Episodes to date) documents his RA journey via video blogging (vlogging ๐Ÿ“น ). ๐Ÿค— ๐Ÿ‘

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    Video

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    . 4:39 min. โ€ข EPISODE 1 โ€” Intro to Sumit Bose, Clint Paddison, & the Paddison Program

    . 4:36 min. โ€ข EPISODE 2 โ€” 1st day of PP

    . 1:54 min. โ€ข EPISODE 3 โ€” 2nd day of PP

    . 4:05 min. โ€ข EPISODE 4 โ€” What is RA?

    . 2:58 min. โ€ข EPISODE 5 โ€” 3rd day of PP

    . 5:52 min. โ€ข EPISODE 6 โ€” End of Week 1 of PP & First 12 Days of PP

    26:15 min. โ€ข EPISODE 7 โ€” Unvarnished Truths from Dr. John McDougall

    โ€”โ€”โ€”โ€”โ€”โ€”โ€”โ€”โ€”โ€”โ€”โ€”โ€”โ€”โ€”โ€”โ€”โ€”โ€”โ€”โ€”โ€”โ€”โ€”โ€”โ€”โ€”โ€”

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    Finding Sumit Bose's depiction of early phases of the PP process spot on!! โ˜บ๏ธ ๐Ÿ‘

    Refreshing to see accuracy/ preciseness with which he explains a dietary/ lifestyle (d/l) process (after reading so many misconceptions), as well as his generously showing his unvarnished personal experience, day by day. ๐Ÿค—

    [Many thanks to SB. ๐Ÿ™ ๐Ÿ˜Œ His truthfulness/ honesty is sincerely appreciated by those of us who are also on a d/l journey & wish to learn from (& share with) each other. ๐Ÿ‘ ]

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    ๐Ÿ™ ๐Ÿ€ ๐ŸŒบ ๐ŸŒž

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    [SB's videos & (my) jotted notes: Journalist Sumit Bose, Another RA-er Who's Documenting His RA Journey: healthunlocked.com/cure-art... ]

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    * For reference:

    'Healing Josefine' ๐Ÿ‘ฉ ( m.youtube.com/channel/UCEYu... ) &

    Rick 'The RA Health Coach' ๐Ÿ‘ฑ ( m.youtube.com/channel/UC-24... ),

    are 2 earlier vloggers who've documented their d/l journeys as well. ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

    Have also found both Josefine & Rick to be accurate, truthful, honest in their vlogging. ๐Ÿ™ ๐Ÿ˜Œ

    They, too, convey the daily reality of d/l experiences & the uniqueness of each of our journeys.

    They've been deeply personal inspirations for me โ˜บ๏ธ , wonderful sources of additional quality, sensible tips, & shared thoughts. ๐Ÿ˜Œ ๐Ÿค— (Much, much appreciated. ๐Ÿ™ ๐Ÿ˜Œ )

    Catching Up with 'Healing Josefine' -- Over 2 Years & 80+ Vlogs may be of interest to sincere seekers: healthunlocked.com/nras/pos...

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    ๐Ÿ™ ๐Ÿ€ ๐ŸŒบ ๐ŸŒž

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    Here's a physician ๐Ÿ‘จโ€โš•๏ธ who's not ignoring the importance of diet.

    He himself has RA & notes ๐Ÿ“ his dietary recommendations to patients.

    See post RA. RA drugs and Statins. Start a new post to save a lot of scrolling down๐Ÿ˜ƒ for details: healthunlocked.com/nras/pos...๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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    RA. RA drugs and Statins. Start a new post to save a lot of scrolling down๐Ÿ˜ƒ :

    healthunlocked.com/nras/pos...๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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    Here are links to the noted references from the 3 photos (kindly provided by dtech):

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    Thank you kindly, dtech. ๐Ÿ˜Œ Much appreciated. ๐Ÿ™ โ˜บ๏ธ

    Have included links ๐Ÿ”— to the sequence of 3 photo ๐Ÿ–ผ references (below) & linked to (for convenience) for other readers who may also be interested.

    [Have also added links ๐Ÿ”— (to references noted within photo text) for ease of use for those of us who are interested in researching ๐Ÿ•ต๏ธ ๐Ÿ”Ž further.]

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    ๐Ÿ–ผ Page 1 photo โ€” How to reduce your sugar intake: healthunlocked.com/nras/pos...

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    ๐Ÿ–ผ Page 2 photo โ€” Step 1: healthunlocked.com/nras/pos...

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    ๐Ÿ”— Robert Lustig: "Sugar: The Bitter Truth":

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    ๐Ÿ”— Robert Lustig: "The Complete Skinny on Obesity":

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    ๐Ÿ”— Dr. Richard Johnson lectures (University of Colorado): google.com/search?as_q=%22D...

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    ๐Ÿ”— "That Sugar Film": thatsugarfilm.com/

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    ๐Ÿ”— Action on Sugar: actiononsugar.org/

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    ๐Ÿ”— The Sugar Smart App: publichealthnetwork.cymru/e...

    ๐Ÿ”— Change4Life: nhs.uk/change4life-beta/car...

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    ๐Ÿ–ผ Page 3 photo โ€” healthunlocked.com/nras/pos...๐Ÿ˜

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    Step 2:

    ๐Ÿ”— "Food Rules" book by Michael Pollan: amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_no...

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    ๐Ÿ”— "Michael Pollanโ€™s Food Rules": vimeo.com/35444471

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    ๐Ÿ”— "Food Rules according to Michael Pollan":

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    Step 3:

    ๐Ÿ”— 'Jason Vale' YouTube: m.youtube.com/user/Juicemas...

    ๐Ÿ”— "Jason Vale โ€“ Super Juice Me! Documentary":

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    Thank you, again, dtech. ๐Ÿ™ Much appreciated. ๐Ÿ˜Œ

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    ๐Ÿ™ ๐Ÿ€ ๐ŸŒบ ๐ŸŒž

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    For anyone merely looking to shed weight ๐ŸŒ โ€”> ๐Ÿ’€

    (or shed blood pressure meds ๐Ÿ’Š๐Ÿ’Š ), consider how Penn Jillette

    (of 'Penn & Teller' pennandteller.com/wordpress... ๐ŸŽŸ ๐Ÿคนโ€โ™‚๏ธ ๐ŸŽญ ๐Ÿƒ ๐ŸŽฉ ๐Ÿฐ ๐ŸŽฐ )

    shed both. ๐Ÿค”

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    Penn Jillette is now mainly plant-based ๐Ÿ˜ณ:

    ๐ŸŽฉ ๐Ÿฐ How Penn Jillette Lost over 100 Lbs and Still Eats Whatever He Wants**:

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    ๐ŸŽฉ ๐Ÿฐ Penn Loses 120 lbs On Potato Cleanse & Vegan Diet!:

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    Penn Jillette:

    " . . . I now eat whatever I want.

    BUT โ€” what I want has changed profoundly."

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    Think that precisely โ€” concisely โ€” sums up what happens when we change our dietary/ lifestyle habits. ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

    Our food preferences โ€” tastebuds/ palate ๐Ÿ‘… โ€” shift:

    . . . . . ๐Ÿฉ โ€”> ๐ŸŽ

    . . . . . ๐Ÿ” โ€”> ๐Ÿฅ—

    . . . . . ๐ŸŸ โ€”> ๐Ÿฅ”

    [Just as explained by Douglas Lisle: 'The Pleasure Trap': healthunlocked.com/nras/pos... ]

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    * Another thank you ๐Ÿ™ to ITYFIALMCTT for another thought-provoking ๐Ÿค” find: healthunlocked.com/nras/pos... ๐Ÿค— ๐Ÿ‘

    **Think this is the Ray Cronise PJ referred to:

    Ray Cronise at TEDMED 2010:

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  • 'The end of RA...?' from poster 'onesizefitsall'

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    Reposting of deleted post 'The end of RA...?' from (former) NRAS forum poster 'onesizefitsall' follows.*

    [The post was deleted & not permitted to be re-posted (at NRAS forum) for reasons noted by EmmaS-NRAS Administrator at 'Updated NRAS Community Guidelines' ( healthunlocked.com/nras/pos... toward bottom of page).]**

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    Found the post interesting & reflective of the positive (even 'life-changing') experience many of us have had implementing dietary/ lifestyle (d/l) approaches over time. ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

    Therefore, think it's worthwhile re-posting here for people who are genuinely interested in researching ๐Ÿ•ต๏ธโ€โ™€๏ธ ๐Ÿ”Ž d/l approaches.

    Kindly bear in mind ๐Ÿค” the issues NRAS has raised & their concerns about 'phrasings' within onesizefitsall's post.**

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    Also:

    'The end of RA...?' post's content/ text was also placed at post, Warm welcome, Hopeyj19! ( healthunlocked.com/nras/pos... ), where that text was also deleted, but my replies to 'onesizefitsall' remain ('out of context' ๐Ÿ˜ณ ๐Ÿ™ƒ ๐Ÿคฃ ).

    My hope ๐Ÿ™ is that 'onesizefitsall' will return to the forum(s) & choose to re-connect with us & share more of his wife Sharon's experience, as well as his own โ€” being 'the spouse ๐Ÿ’‘ of an autoimmuner'. ๐Ÿ˜Œ

    Those of us genuinely interested ๐Ÿค” in d/l are open/ receptive to hearing ๐Ÿ‘‚ other autoimmuners actual experiences. That's how we learn ๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€๐Ÿซ ๐Ÿ‘จโ€๐Ÿซ from each other, glean new ideas ๐Ÿ’ก , & figure out ๐Ÿ™‡โ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿ™‡ how to refine techniques/ processes, etc.. ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

    We are deeply appreciative ๐Ÿ™ to anyone who has the courage to share what has worked for themselves or their loved ones. ๐Ÿ˜Œ

    So, if you're 'out there', onesizefitsall ๐Ÿ•ด, & happen to stumble across this post, please know that we appreciate ๐Ÿ™ what you kindly took the time to share with everyone. ๐Ÿ˜Œ

    We wish you & your beloved wife, Sharon, the very best. ๐Ÿ™ ๐Ÿ€ ๐ŸŒบ ๐ŸŒž

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    *The end of RA...? ( healthunlocked.com/nras/pos...... )

    onesizefitsall ( healthunlocked.com/user/one... )

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    Hi All,

    I'm brand new to this site - in fact I stumbled upon it by accident! I have been looking through some of the posts and it's so, so upsetting. All the Sulfasalazine, Methotrexate (yuk!!) and Humira and all the nasty side effects. My wife went through the same thing, but she has been fortunate enough to get past it all.

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    The answer is simple - change your diet. As with all the auto-immune diseases, leaky gut is the starting point, foreign proteins in the bloodstream are the cause and a Whole Food Plant Based (WFPB) Diet is the answer. Whats the downside? Changing to a WFPB diet costs nothing. Side effects - better health all round.

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    Don't believe it (we didn't!) - do your own research - I'll start you off with a link to Nutritionfacts.org. Its free and run by an American GP who looks at all the best and latest research and makes short videos about it. Links at the end. I would also recommend watching "What The Health", which you can find on Netflix.

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    If it was that easy wouldn't every rheumatologist prescribe this? The problem is that they are trained to label an illness and then give you a pill! Their level of nutritional training is about 4hrs for the whole 5yr course. Also, NICE don't allow them to mention diet since the evidence is observational not double blind placebo controlled trial - the latter would be pretty hard to do unless you blended every meal and made them all taste the same... a bit of a tall order! Also, who pays for clinical research? The pharmaceutical companies - they aren't likely to pay for this, since there's no profit in it for them!

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    Why am I interested? Because I hate seeing people suffering like Sharon did, completely unnecessarily! My background - a PhD Chemist with a background in Biochemistry and Genetics. No, I don't have a diet programme, no I don't sell dietary supplements and no I haven't written a book! I just want people to know and experience the freedom of good health! And no, I'm not a saint!!

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    My wife's story: She developed Psoriatic Arthritis during the final trimester of her first pregnancy. After our sone was born, she couldn't straighten her fingers, she had pain and swelling in virtually every joint. She slept in a chair at night so that her hands dangled since that was the only way that she got any relief from the pain in her hands. She couldn't get her old jeans on because her legs were swollen!

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    Post diagnosis, she started with Prednisone injections, but after three, the rheumatologist declined any more due to the long term side effects. When she stopped breast feeding, she was given Sulfasalazine, which did help. However, it merely dampened things down and she still had a lot of inflamation - she still couldn't fully straighten her fingers or get her wedding rings on. Finally, she changed her diet and dropped the Sulfasalazine within weeks. Nearly 18 months later, she is medication free, pain free and inflammation free. She will happily chat to anyone who wants to talk about RA and how not to have it any more - just get in touch.

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    Here's a place to start looking:

    nutritionfacts.org/?fwp_sea...

    My wife went on the Padisson Programme (single ยฃ45 cost) which worked brilliantly, but nobody has to! Dr John McDougall (WFPB diet for over 40 years!) offers a free diet programme and a ton of free resources on his website. Here's the links:

    paddisonprogram.com

    drmcdougall.com/health/educ...

    Films: Forks Over Knives and What The Health are good starting places.

    I wish you all luck and a happy heathy future!"

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    ** EmmaS-NRAS Administrator

    Hi Kai,

    I've had a quick chat with the other admins and we're all in agreement that even if the post hadn't been removed (either by the user or HU) then we would have taken the same action so feel it is not appropriate on this occasion to re-post.

    The problem is not with the general content of the post but that they were advising people on what to do and the information, such as NICE not being allowed to suggest diet to anyone, was untrue. Itโ€™s not that they couldnโ€™t have put a post up about how diet helped their wife's psoriatic arthritis, they just canโ€™t suggest that people are struggling โ€˜unnecessarilyโ€™ on medication and that this would cure their condition. Itโ€™s all in the phrasing! The reason we were looking to remove rather than edit is that we took issue with so much of it that in order to stay, it would really need to be rewritten by the author rather than heavily edited by us.

    Many thanks

    EmmaS-NRAS

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  • This was my 3-part reply to onesizefitsall:

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    [Part 1 of 3]

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    "The end of RA..." (is nigh)โ‰๏ธ ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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    Thank you kindly, PhD Chemist (biochemistry ๐Ÿ‘จโ€๐Ÿ”ฌ & genetics background ) & loving husband ๐Ÿคต, onesizefitsall, for sharing your experience. ๐Ÿ™ ๐Ÿ˜Œ

    Please let your beloved Sharon ๐Ÿ‘ฐ know she joins with fellow NRAS WFPB-ers andyswarbs & shaun94 in improving/ healing. ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

    Please keep sharing your beloved Sharon's experience, onesizefitsall. ๐Ÿ™

    There are people eager to hear/ learn about her experience & the realistic hope that's open to so many of us.

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    Those of us with experience, live in hope that "truth will out" one day. โ˜บ๏ธ

    Unnecessary suffering will fade into past & anyone genuinely interested in pursuing a dietary/ lifestyle (d/l) approach will do their research ๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€๐Ÿซ ๐Ÿ‘จโ€๐Ÿ’ป & not be deterred from exploring ๐Ÿ•ต๏ธโ€โ™€๏ธ ๐Ÿ”Ž d/l for themselves.

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    After all, so many of us are improving our conditions via food & lifestyle changes. ๐Ÿค—

    We can't all be relegated to the pile of merely 'lucky few'. ๐Ÿ˜ณ ๐Ÿค”

    [Yes, with respect for individuals for whom d/l processes do not work readily, there is absolute understanding, compassion, no 'blame', etc. Yet, equally, for those who have had good fortune with d/l, I'd hope the same respect, understanding, compassion, lack of 'blame', etc. would be equally afforded. ๐Ÿ˜Œ ๐Ÿ™ ]

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    โš–๏ธ โ˜ฎ๏ธ โœŒ๏ธ

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    Wishing you & you're loved ones ๐Ÿ‘จโ€๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€๐Ÿ‘งโ€๐Ÿ‘ฆ continued good health, onesizefitsall.

    Please take good care. ๐Ÿ™ ๐Ÿ€ ๐ŸŒบ ๐ŸŒž

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    Oh . . . I respectfully disagree with you on 1 point.

    . . . . You are a saint. ๐Ÿ˜‡

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    (Kindly ๐Ÿ˜Œ , wear your halo ๐Ÿ’ซ with pride, dear man.)

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    ๐Ÿ™ ๐Ÿ€ ๐ŸŒบ ๐ŸŒž

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    [Part 2 of 3]

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    Merely supplemental info supporting/ re-affirming your & Sharon's experience, underscoring the resources you've kindly noted:

    โ€ข Dr. Michael Greger . . . : healthunlocked.com/cure-art...

    โ€ข What the Health film: healthunlocked.com/cure-art...

    โ€ข . . .Whole Foods Plant-Based Diet/ Lifestyle . . . & 'Forks Over Knives': healthunlocked.com/nras/pos...

    โ€ข . . . John McDougall,. . . Michael Greger: healthunlocked.com/nras/pos...

    โ€ข Paddison Program . . . : healthunlocked.com/cure-art....

    โ€ข Why Does the Medical System Ignore the Importance of Diet? . . .: healthunlocked.com/cure-art...

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    [Part 3 of 3]

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    Aside: don't know if you & Sharon would ever consider sharing your story over at other forums as well? ๐Ÿค”

    โ€ข Arthritis Action ( healthunlocked.com/arthriti... )

    โ€ข Cure Arthritis Community ( healthunlocked.com/cure-art... )

    I think both of these forums would have participants interested in learning about Sharon's experience.

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    And, personally, I'd love to hear ๐Ÿ‘‚ (& see ๐Ÿ‘€ ) Sharon's story in her own words, from her own mouth ๐Ÿ‘„ on video ๐Ÿ“น .

    Don't know if that 'type of thing' interests either of you? ๐Ÿค” ๐Ÿค”

    [I follow PP podcast & see (& continue to learn from) many, many wonderful people around the world ๐ŸŒ ๐ŸŒ ๐ŸŒŽ doing extraordinarily well.]

    Don't know if Sharon & you would ever consider doing such a podcast? ๐Ÿค”

    You could be the first husband wife ๐Ÿคต๐Ÿ‘ฐ interview!! ๐Ÿ˜

    Merely idea ๐Ÿ’ก ๐Ÿค” , floated out into the universe ๐ŸŒŒ . . .

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    ๐Ÿ™ ๐Ÿ€ ๐ŸŒบ ๐ŸŒž

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    "The end of RA..." (is nigh)โ€ผ๏ธ ๐Ÿค”

    (There is realistic hope. ๐Ÿค— )

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