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Painful joints

Greyeyes
Greyeyes

Hi all,

I’m looking for some advice (before waiting a month to see my Gp lol).

I’ve been taking Atorvastatin 20mg for 13 months and have suddenly started with pain in some of my joints. According to various websites I’ve Googled, any pain should happen when commencing starting with statins and peter out as time goes by. Am I an exception to the rule?!! Lol

My diet is very good and I’m an active person, it’s thought my high cholesterol is familial (previously 12.6, now down to 4) so stopping taking statins isn’t really an option,

Thank you.

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I was on Atorvastatin 10mg for well over 10 years with no noticeable side effects but after starting Flecainide and Diltiazem over 5 years ago I started having bad leg pains , reduced the Atorvastatin to 5mg but the pain did not go away so I stopped taking statins totally.

So there is no hard and fast rule to how statins cause pain .

I was never anywhere near your starting point just around 5 to 6 so I had no compunction about stopping.

I read the reverse to what you have read - the side effects do get worse and seldom improve once they begin to cause injury.

Greyeyes
Greyeyes
in reply to sleeksheep

Thanks. I guess I’m stuck between a rock & a hard place lol

sleeksheep
sleeksheep
in reply to Greyeyes

You can but try a different statin if you must stay on them.

No telling what your bodies reaction is to other formulations.

CoQ10 sometimes stops the pain so I have read but it didnt work for me.

I tried two other prescribed statins but they were worse even after one tablet.

Simvastatin has been known to be less aggressive, but then again not with me.

sos007
sos007Ambassador
in reply to Greyeyes

Please read my pinned post to the right side of this page titled:

"How I Conquered Heart Disease and What I Learned in the Process".

I encourage you to watch these videos:

Australian TV magazine show


- Gut Health Part 1 - 28 minutes


- Gut Health Part 2 - 28 minutes

US TV show - 60 minutes:


- 'Is Sugar Toxic?' - 13 minutes

Canadian TV magazine show - The Fifth Estate:


- The Secrets of Sugar - 42 minutes

Good luck.

Have been on 20mg Atorvastatin since late 2013 with no problems i guess i am lucky so far Talk to your G.P and try a different statin and CQ10.

Greyeyes
Greyeyes
in reply to christos1

Can you tell me what CQ10 is please?

Marz
Marz
in reply to Greyeyes

Statins block CoQ10 - which is needed for energy function within every cell of your body.

K2 is also blocked - which prevents the build up of calcium in your arteries - sigh !

I replied to you 9 months ago but did not receive a response 😥 When cholesterol is raised it can be due to poor thyroid function. The NHS website does mention ensuring the thyroid is correctly treated before starting statins.

Has your thyroid been correctly tested ?

Greyeyes
Greyeyes
in reply to Marz

Firstly I apologise for not replying, unless I do something straight away it goes completely out of my head!! 🤦‍♀️My thyroid has been tested many times & I’ve been told that it’s fine.

Marz
Marz
in reply to Greyeyes

Thank you for you response ! Yes we all want to hear the words Fine/Normal/OK when receiving results. Sadly those words mean you are in range ! - however it is where you are in the range that is so important.

Also the NHS mostly only tests the TSH - Thyroid Stimulating Hormone - which is secreted from the Pituitary Gland so is NOT a Thyroid hormone - sigh ! So does not tell you anything about how your thyroid is performing !

I have been a member of Thyroid UK - here on HU since 2011 - and have learnt a great deal from others. You can click onto my username above and read my Bio and check me out - Posts and Replies.

The Tests you need are TSH - FT4 - FT3 and Anti-bodies TPO and Tg. - the last two will rule out Hashimotos which is the most common thyroid problem globally. Sadly the NHS are failing patients by only testing the TSH. Of course there are many symptoms that need treatment if undiagnosed or undertreated ... !

The T4 is secreted by the thyroid and is mostly inactive. It must convert into the Active T3 which is needed in every cell of the body. If low in range - it can be cause of over 300 symptoms - including raised cholesterol. Many people on Thyroid UK have raised cholesterol which lowers when having the thyroid optimally treated.

You are legally entitled to ask for copies of all your test results with ranges - so I do suggest you ask for your results so you can monitor your own progress and check what has been missed. I write on each test sheet the dose - supplements and how I am feeling !

We are the very best advocates of our own health and need to keep a check on how things are organised within the NHS today :-( Private Testing with Home Testing Kits is available from companies detailed in the link below - Click onto - About Testing for details. Medichecks have offers on Thursdays ! - and throughout February I believe.

thyroiduk.org

Of course you may not have an issue at all - but it is always worth ruling out and to be aware of how things can be missed .

Greyeyes
Greyeyes
in reply to Marz

Thanks

Marz
Marz
in reply to Greyeyes

You are welcome ...

christos1
christos1
in reply to Greyeyes

Apologies my reply Should read CoQ10 not CQ10

This site gives information on CoQ10

healthline.com/health/coq10...

I was taking it for two years before my muscle pain and leg cramp started, so maybe we're both an exception. I was put on fenofibrate after that, and the same side effects started again after two years. Im having a two month break now, and after feeling the best I have felt for the last five years (enough energy to resume exercise in earnest) I'm hoping the doctor will concede, and admit that I can survive without cholesterol lowering drugs.

I would love to be able to stop taking statins, as it appears to be familial I doubt there’s much chance. I eat very healthy & am not overweight. Good luck to you 😀

In the last few months, I've been listening to lectures and reading papers on statins, heart disease, etc. What I've learned is very concerning - especially about statins. Most of the published studies were funded by pharma. Most of the researchers have refused to release the raw data. Non-pharma sponsored research studies reveal that there is virtually no benefit in taking statins - even for people who have had a heart attack. Cholesterol is a symptom of the problem, not the cause. What I've learned is the cause is chronic inflammation and the primary cause of arterial inflammation is insulin insensitivity which is most often caused by years and years of elevated insulin as a result of diet and other life style factors. Since the primary treatment for this condition is NOT drugs, the big pharma companies are not interested. Check out Dr. Ekberg's YouTube lectures on the subject (


) or Dr. Aseem Malholtra's -

to learn more.

Greyeyes
Greyeyes
in reply to Golf4

I’ll listen to this, thanks

sos007
sos007Ambassador

I had open heart surgery and stopped all of my medications, including statins, 18 months later, after aggressively changing my diet and lifestyle.

Read my pinned post to the right of the page - "How I Conquered Heart-Disease and What I have Learned in the Process".

The best way to lower cholesterol is to eliminate simple carbohydrates from your diet:

- soft drinks

- fruit juices

-alcoholic beverages

- white flour products such as - white bread, white pasta, white pizza dough

- white rice, white potatoes

- desserts, crackers, cakes - avoid all sweets;

Eliminate all processed foods.

increase your daily consumption of fiber-rich foods:

- legumes - beans, chick peas, lentils, green peas, almonds;

- nuts and seeds - walnuts, pecans, hazelnuts, cashews, pumpkin seeds, sunflower seeds;

- green vegetables especially - arugula (rocket or rochette), broccoli, rapini, kale, dandelion greens, bok choy etc...

- fruits - especially: apples, oranges, blueberries, blackberries;

If you follow these guidelines you bring your body in balance, and your weight to its natural level. Once this happens, it will potentially eliminate your need for medications assuming you don't have any other complicating medical conditions or factors.

Good luck.

Watch this video:


and this one:


Greyeyes
Greyeyes
in reply to sos007

Thank you, I look forward to reading it

sos007
sos007Ambassador
in reply to Greyeyes

Unless your doctor did a specific blood test for Familial Hypercholesterolemia, then he just used an unusually elevated cholesterol value to make an assumption.

Cholesterol elevation is a 'marker' of CVD, but it isn't necessarily a 'cause'.

Statins treat the symptom and not the cause of the disease.

From my experience, most people I speak with think they have a good diet, but they do not.

Self assessing your diet is impossible to do. It is best to see a dietitian or Naturopathic Doctor to assess your diet.

Good luck.

Simple Greyeyes IF IT GIVES YOU PAIN STOP THEM DON;T WORRY YOU WILL NOT DIE NOT YET ANYWAY, I STOPPED STRAIGHT AWAY I GOT THE JOINT PAINS WHICH WAS IN THE FIRST MONTH. SO DON'T WORRY

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