Australian Heart foundation does about turn.

[johnally]

The Australian heart foundation advised today that it is now ok to eat and drink full fat products cheese ,milk yoghurt ,but to limit red meat to three times weekly . In my quest to better my Cardio vascular disease ,I read many views eat this don't eat this take this don't take this. It would be reassuring if one common theme would come out of all the different views. I read but at times they are poles apart which is so confusing.

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[bobaxford]

Agreed!

[Frances_B]

Don't jump for joy too soon - the Aus Heart Foundation has several qualifiers on that "new advice" and they are that

(1) People with existing cardiovascular disease and/or high cholesterol should still avoid all the full fat products

(2) Butter and cream are (in their opinion) still "excluded" foods for all people

(3) people with CV disease and/or high cholesterol should limit their egg intake to no more than seven eggs a week

I find it somewhat contradictory that their "new advice" has been issued because their review of evidence indicated that eggs, full fat dairy, and cheese did not increase CV risks in healthy people, but they are still contending that to eat these foods once you already have CV disease or high cholesterol increases your risks of cardiac problems/events. Seems to me they want to have their cake (full fat of course) and eat it too.

It's an incredibly "carefully worded" statement, and I finding it interesting that, apart from a passing reference to ice-cream and dairy based desserts, they have oh-so-carefully avoided any mention of the added sugars which are commonly used to make low-fat products tolerable to eat (maybe...). However, in the face of ever increasing evidence that conventional "wisdom" on CV disease risks and factors has been leading people up the wrong path for years I suspect they couldn't really do much other than update their somewhat obsolete dietary recommendations.

heartfoundation.org.au/news...

[johnally in reply to Frances_B]

My sentiments to a T. Well said Frances B.

[timotur]

Finally, the Aussies bring a balanced view, we need choline from eggs for retina health, and B-vitamins from red meat for RBC and Hgb production. Bravo!