Hi - someone on here suggested that a right upper quadrant pain I have could benefit from taking probiotics.
Well, I forked out on some half decent ones from boots and have been taking for a week or so and my pain seems 90% improved and I am now able to sleep on my right side for the first time in months without any pain.
I don’t suppose anyone would definitively be able to say it is because of the probiotics but has anyone experienced the same and would it even be possible?
Perhaps they have helped in tandem with a couple of dry months?
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What ever you decide to take, your poor liver will still have to process it. If it was advised by a consultant then I'd accept and trust their course of treatment. But anyone else I'd be very cautious of even though other people might say it's a wonder drug.
Thank you, I was just about to say that ! I think I may have read the same thing. According to what I read, the vast majority of 'probiotics' either come out as they went in and the rest are killed or altered by our own gut bacteria. I think that farranccc's improvement is more likely to be due to his abstinence. Take care.
I’d say it’s completely to do with your dry months your liver doesn’t need more work in processing probiotics a good diet and plenty of water will always help.
Glad your feeling better
Huw
I've taken a lactobacillus rhamnosus (LGG) probiotic for several years now, & I'm a believer.
Michael D. Wheeler, Ph.D. has a great paper:
"Endotoxin and Kupffer Cell Activation in Alcoholic Liver Disease"
which details how endotoxin from gram negative bacteria "activates" kupffer cells in the liver promoting an immune response that can aggravate disease.
Lactobacillus in particular is supposed to be good as these bugs secrete "lactic acid" which the gram negative (bad bugs) seem to hate.
Always best to keep your doc in the loop regarding anything you are considering, but probiotics have a remarkably good safety record.
My consultant positively recommends them. I get a lot less of the acid taste in my mouth and they have definitely helped with the discomfort of lying on my right side.
I did an experiment by not taking them for a week - won't be doing that again
The latest trials using VSL 3, ( a probiotic ) have shown very good results regarding probiotics and liver disease. They have shown a 40 per cent decrease in the effects of H.E for example, as toxins are removed from the body more quickly. I have benefitted hugely in my liver swelling pain as a healthy gut supports the liver. Always use a good strain of probiotic, I make my own keifer and saurkraut as well as using a shop bought probiotic. There is something called the milk test, that you can look up online to check if your probiotics are good or not. I use a good brand which although more expensive are definaftely worth the health benefits i get. Have a look online and youtube for more information on probiotics and li ver health, also the VSL 3 and other trial results it,s so interesing and informative. They,ve done wonders for my bloating and resulting pain. Best wishes, of course check with your own Doctor as we must mention☺
After this past transplant my dietician who works specifically with the hepatic team at Addenbrookes in Cambridge questioned me when I asked the nurse to bring me on of my personal yoghurts. She said, that’s not probiotic is it? I smiled and said nope, just blueberry and Greek. She said ok, but do not use anything that says probiotic. It’s like Seville oranges, or marmalade. Don’t eat that.
And, two days ago it came out that when it was tested, that many of the claims about them were false. I guess it was the test that everyone refers to? It was mishandled or something.
Anyway, please check with your dietitian. Even my doctors did not know about marmalade, but the dieticians pay attention to anything that says it’s good for the liver. That’s there job! It’s like St Johns Wort. Not actually effective at all on the liver. And I have used herbs and aromatherapy for 30 years now. So that was a blow for me.
Didn’t you also say that you were new to practicing abstinence and you were exercising? Those things will directly impact your well being.
Just my opinion and my experience.
If your not the person who has just quit drinking, sorry.
But anything your taking for your liver outside of prescribed medicine and treatments should be queried by doctors and dietitians!
Cheering you on!
I think if it helps, take it, studies show promising things for liver disease
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