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6 years ago•19 Replies

Advice from nhs for fatty liver.

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AutoHepDove6 years ago

My AIH consultant told me something similar. My condition hasn’t been caused by alcohol consumption and a biopsy showed no fatty liver after all. I’m still early stages so she says it’s fine to have the odd glass or two.

in reply to AutoHepDove6 years ago

Hi.

I'm interested to know how they difine ' the odd glass or 2'..... daily? .... weekly? ...... monthly? ...... this stuff is adictive. They need to be far more specific.

AutoHepDove in reply to 6 years ago

If you have an alcohol problem then clearly don’t drink. But the average person doesn’t. Like me. It’s not like crack cocaine or heroin!! That is not to belittle people with alcohol addictions but the vast majority of adults know their limits and understand what ‘the odd glass or two’ means.

I would suggest that if you’re drinking alone rather than as part of a social occasion, it’s possible you have an alcohol problem. If you’re drinking daily, or even the majority of days in a week or month, that’s not the odd glass or two. It’s common sense.

in reply to AutoHepDove6 years ago

Sadly too many people do have alcohol adiction but won't or can't admit to it til it's too late so comments such as 'a glass or 2 is ok' can mean to them well I only drink 1 or 2 glasses a day now so it's fine to carry on.

I'm pleased to say i am not and never have been a drinker and that your illness is not alcohol related and wish you well.

AutoHepDove in reply to 6 years ago

I wouldn’t think my doctor would say that to me if they thought I had a problem with alcohol. But I can see it would be a problem statement for conditions that can be caused by alcohol. But people in denial (like my father and my best friend) will drink regardless of what the doctor says.

Doctors wouldn’t give a definition because there is no ‘safe’ amount of alcohol for people with a drinking problem in the way I can’t have one cigarette or I’ll be smoking a packet a day again within weeks. If someone is unable to understand what the odd glass or two means, they should probably not drink at all as their judgement is impaired.

Brett11 in reply to AutoHepDove6 years ago

I disagree. Alcohol is more addictive than heroin. It’s much harder to come off alcohol than heroin. I’ve been addicted to both.

Cheers,

Brett.

P.S. I’ve never tried crack?

in reply to Brett116 years ago

Well said Brett 😉

AutoHepDove in reply to Brett116 years ago

I’m sorry if you’ve suffered with both of those. I’ve only been addicted to cigarettes and that was a pain to stop.

Brett11 in reply to AutoHepDove6 years ago

I won’t give up ciggies just yet. I need one addiction lol

kurtymac in reply to Brett116 years ago

My addiction is coffee, figured it's the best one to have out of the set. BTW I reported this NHS post, but I guess the moderators don't do anything on here. I don't think it's good to have a post telling people they can drink after just two weeks of not drinking with a fatty liver. NHS must be partaking in some of that cocaine you spoke about Brett. The term "AT LEAST TWO WEEKS", is very subjective and used carelessly here. I also would like to add alcohol companies like to put money in the pockets of the NHS and WHO to make it seem like somebody won't get sick. Same, as we see with Big Pharma.

in reply to kurtymac6 years ago

Coffee is supposed to be really good for you, especially if you have liver disease, apparently. My gastroenterologist said I should drink 3-4 coffees a day when I was diagnosed with cirrhosis, didn't stop it from changing to decompensated though...

Porphyriamaniac in reply to 6 years ago

I love coffee, I'm currently on my 4th cup of the day 😁

in reply to Porphyriamaniac6 years ago

Lol do you get any sleep with all that caffeine? 🤯 Having said that, coffee seems to have the opposite effect on me. I'd be fast asleep after one cup when I had a dodgy liver. Not so much now but back then it was more of a sleeping aid than a pick me up 😅

Porphyriamaniac in reply to 6 years ago

I can sleep straight after....im even more worried about my bloody liver now! 😂😂

jojo23pink in reply to AutoHepDove6 years ago

That doesnt make sense luv lol. U wrote if you have an alcohol problem then clearly dnt drink. Some ppl who do have an alcohol problem like alcoholics etc cant just stop drinking because its an addiction which is something u cant just stop without help

AutoHepDove in reply to jojo23pink6 years ago

I don’t pretend to understand alcohol addiction. I was addicted to cigarettes and I know I can never have one again. It mustn’t get back in my system. Once addicted, always addicted.

But the NHS advice isn’t aimed at alcoholics. Not everyone with fatty liver is an alcoholic. My point was that if you know you have a problem with alcohol then clearly that advice isn’t aimed at you. But you’re right the NHS website should consider than some people with fatty liver are alcoholics.

Brett116 years ago

I agree. Jojo has been quiet lately. Maybe the hangover has kicked in lol. I think alcohol may be ok for some in moderation but it’s a poison to others. Most of us on here are in the “others” group. Advice can be given but it doesn’t mean it will sink in. Maybe hindsight might kick in for her one day? She does have a foul mouth though. We can’t save everyone and we are not a religion lol.

jojo23pink6 years ago

Lol. Whats ur take on that advice? If there was 1 right answer then everyone would say the same but iv had several on mr google and several from my doctors haha

6 years ago

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