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Consolidation 25 and PB for 5K !! πŸ₯³

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Jools2020Graduate10
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I’ve only run the 5K distance once before at the beginning of August. My time was 44 minutes and I was exhausted! I had no desire to repeat that performance. When my son came and ran my long run with me last weekend, he pointed out that my pace had improved significantly since then, and my stamina. All I would need to do to achieve a sub 40 minute 5K would be to keep my pace under 8’ /km. 5 x 8 = 40. Simples! He’s always been good at maths πŸ˜‚. Then Plattszo did a sub 40 minute 5K and the inspiration was there!

I’ve always been one of the slower runners on here, which is one of the reasons I’ve switched to something I *can* do, run slower for longer! But perhaps it was time to try another 5K. I started to work out my strategy! If I could even keep to under 7’ 30” ......no, stop! Don’t try and aim too high, it could all go horribly wrong!! 😬

I find it really difficult to judge my pace and nearly always set off too fast. A cracking first km would mean I would burn out far too soon, so I aimed for a pace of about 7’ 45”, then I would increase slightly each km. First km was 7’30”. Mmmm. Not disastrous, I’ll work with it! After that, for the most part I kept to my plan. The last km was the fastest at 6’55”, faster than I would have expected! πŸ˜€

I did it! 5K time 36:43 πŸ₯° An improvement of over 7 minutes. The best thing was, I wasn’t exhausted, although I certainly knew I’d had a workout! This time, I was ready for that distance and felt that I did it justice.

Happy porridge for breakfast, the breakfast of champions! πŸƒβ€β™€οΈπŸƒβ€β™€οΈπŸƒβ€β™€οΈπŸ˜€

Splits: 7:30, 7:24, 7:21, 7:24, 6:55

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HeavyFoot profile image
HeavyFootGraduate10

That’s a great result J2020 ! Plus negative splits - they’re a pipe dream for me! Good luck πŸ€

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Jools2020Graduate10 in reply to HeavyFoot

Thanks! Us over 60s have got to keep the flag flying πŸ˜€

Almost negative splits. That 4th km .....πŸ™„

Instructor57 profile image
Instructor57Graduate10

Nice run Jools πŸ‘

A amazing how these 5k's get easier 😁

Well done on your PB πŸ˜¬πŸ‘

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Jools2020Graduate10 in reply to Instructor57

Thanks, Ian! This one was definitely easier than the first one 😊

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Scout37

Truly awesome running!!!

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Jools2020Graduate10 in reply to Scout37

Thank you πŸ™ I’m so pleased with that time 😊

Health2020 profile image
Health2020Graduate10

Amazing πŸ˜‰

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Jools2020Graduate10 in reply to Health2020

Thank you πŸ™, I was amazed myself πŸ˜€

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BonniesRest

That’s great! And I think shows how much the longer runs have prepared you for the faster/shorter time. Have a great day! πŸ₯£ πŸƒβ€β™€οΈ 🌞

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Jools2020Graduate10 in reply to BonniesRest

Thanks. You’re right about the longer runs preparing me. Have a great day, too πŸ˜€

Birdlady64 profile image
Birdlady64Graduate10

Fantastic run! Those long slow runs are really paying dividends now! Well done!

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Jools2020Graduate10 in reply to Birdlady64

Oh, you’re right - they really are! Thank you πŸ™ 😊

Frizzbomb67 profile image
Frizzbomb67Graduate10

Brilliant performance! Well done πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»

Great splits too!

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Jools2020Graduate10 in reply to Frizzbomb67

Thank you πŸ™ Ha, don’t look at the 4th km split 😬

Frizzbomb67 profile image
Frizzbomb67Graduate10 in reply to Jools2020

They’re all above mine!

Jools2020 profile image
Jools2020Graduate10 in reply to Frizzbomb67

I think our progress is pretty similar! πŸ™‚

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FionamagsGraduate10

Congratulations - that was a terrific time and a massive improvement on your last time!

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Jools2020Graduate10 in reply to Fionamags

Thanks πŸ™, this time I was ready πŸ˜€πŸƒβ€β™€οΈ

Cmoi profile image
CmoiGraduate10

Fabulous improvement, and negative splits too! I've never come close to those; where I live my 5k routes are all downhill at the start and uphill at the end. They go up and down in between as well...

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Jools2020Graduate10 in reply to Cmoi

Thanks πŸ™ I’ve found that if I don’t at least try to get a slower first km, then I struggle to play catch-up for the rest of the run. I don’t have to bother about hills at all, as I live in the Norfolk Fens πŸ˜‚. Elevation gain often doesn’t register on Garmin at all, and for this run, Strava interpreted it as zero πŸ˜€

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CmoiGraduate10 in reply to Jools2020

I'm in the Massif Central, where hills are not optional πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚

Even my flattest 4-5k runs start about 650m elevation, with the lowest point approx. 590m. Lowest cumulative elevation gain over 5k was 21m, and the subsequent cool-down walk was from 590m to 680m elevation!

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Jools2020Graduate10 in reply to Cmoi

Oh my word, I can’t even imagine that! You must be pretty fit πŸ˜€

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CmoiGraduate10 in reply to Jools2020

Thanks πŸ™ :) I'm certainly fitter than I was when I started C25K four months ago, but won't be taking on Paula Radcliffe any day soon!

Also, for me, so much of it is mental. Telling myself that I can perfectly well get as far as the next tree, then as far as the house, then as far as the junction, etc has worked wonders for getting me up hills.

Not to mention my late Mum's voice in my head, saying "Never, ever give up." She'd come back and haunt me if I did (and would undoubtedly be giggling away at what I've just typed.)

Happy running to you!

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Jools2020Graduate10 in reply to Cmoi

My Mum used to say β€œif something is worth doing, then it’s worth doing well” πŸ™‚. So I always try and give anything I do my best shot! I’m sure our Mums would be proud of us πŸ˜€

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MccHaGraduate10

Well done Jools πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘ Fantastic and great timing πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘ you doing really wellπŸƒβ€β™€οΈKeep up the good work...

Nice photo by the way ...

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Jools2020Graduate10 in reply to MccHa

Thank you MccHa πŸ™ I was happy with that time 😊 and the porridge was exceptionally good πŸ‘

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Plattszo

Yes!!!!!!!

Amazing work Jools2020 , I can hear how proud of yourself you are, in your message. And rightly so!

Well done!! I am proud of you too!! It's nice to know I gave you a boost of self belief!! You are amazing πŸ‘

Jools2020 profile image
Jools2020Graduate10 in reply to Plattszo

Thank you πŸ™ It was definitely you that gave me that extra push I needed at just the right time! 😍

I’m still buzzing today! 🐝

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Plattszo in reply to Jools2020

Amazing!! Team work πŸ˜‰πŸ˜‰

I would love to run for longer... maybe one day when I have the energy, time and space, I will try and stretch to 6k!!

WeavingWonk profile image
WeavingWonkGraduate10

Wow! Well done! My first 5k was also about 44mins. Fastest to date has been a little over 42. I look forward to increasing my pace as much as you have!

Jools2020 profile image
Jools2020Graduate10 in reply to WeavingWonk

Thanks! I’m convinced it’s the slow running (pace between 9 - 10 mins/km) that’s helped. One of my runs is speed work, either intervals or a short, fast run 2-3 km, and then a 30 minute run doing what I fancy! Usually 4K - but this time I felt ready to try the 5K again. By the way, stride length is in the garmin data for each run. Mine increased (I wasn’t aware of it) from 77 cm to 83 cm when my pace increased. I’ve no idea what significance that has, if any πŸ˜€

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WeavingWonkGraduate10 in reply to Jools2020

Very interesting. My stride was .77 when I tried to run as fast as I could for a short run. But is typically between .66 and .69. Which is hilarious when one considers that I am 6' with a 35" inseam! I actually think it's my hip flexors and right IT band that shorten my stride - I can feel the strain around my right hip and upper leg on a long run. I am seeing a physiatrist on Monday in the hope that some physio will solve some of it. As my cadence averages 170 steps per minute, I think the only way to get faster is to go further with each step! I think that will come with time and strength. My longest run so far was 6.5km at 8:52 on average.

Thanks for giving me hope that I might naturally get a little faster!

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Jools2020Graduate10 in reply to WeavingWonk

That’s interesting. My stride length is only .83 when I’m pushing it! But I’m 5’ 8” with not particularly long legs. My average cadence on a faster run is 166. Wow, yes - you’ve got long enough legs to think that your stride length would be much longer than mine! It does seem to point to a problem somewhere that is holding you back.

Stats for my recent long run: 10.03 km average pace 9:23 and I kept in heart rate zone 3. It means I can do it without being out of breath at the end - it takes about 90 minutes. I’m tired, sure, but not out of breath! I would expect my stride length to be shorter on this run and it was at .73.

Good luck with the physiatrist πŸ™‚

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nowsterGraduate10 in reply to WeavingWonk

Interesting! I've a 95cm stride (according to the watch) and I'm approx 6ft tall with a 33" inside leg. My average cadence is about 160 spm. Towards graduation I was reaching 5:30/km at fastest, averaging 6min/km.

When I get off the IC at the weekend I'll be aiming for 8min/km runs or slower.

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Jools2020Graduate10 in reply to nowster

It sounds like a plan, nowster. Best to take it steady and build up again. I’ve just got back from a shorter, faster run and my average stride length was .89 on this run, so I was really stepping it out πŸ˜€

WeavingWonk profile image
WeavingWonkGraduate10

Well, clearly I am taking short mincing steps! I am fairly convinced with an already fairly high turnover rate I just need to lengthen my stride. Perhaps easier said than done but we shall what the physio says!

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Jools2020Graduate10 in reply to WeavingWonk

As you say, see what the physio says. My increase in stride length isn’t something I’m consciously doing - I asked a while ago if I should try and increase it, and was told probably not wise. I believe that part of the reasoning behind that is that it’s possible to introduce problems - e.g. heel strike.

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WeavingWonkGraduate10 in reply to Jools2020

That would be my big concern. So I think it's about a stronger push off from the back foot so one still lands with hips over foot. My right big toe barely bends at all so that may be wishful thinking for me...ah well, at least I'm running! I do take solace however in the fact that your stride is increasing, and thus your pace, without trying!

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Jools2020Graduate10 in reply to WeavingWonk

There was some effort involved this morning on my 2K run πŸ˜‚

Is the physio going to be looking at your toe as well?

WeavingWonk profile image
WeavingWonkGraduate10 in reply to Jools2020

No point in looking at the toe. It was first looked at when I was 12! It's just the way I'm built. My joints go too far in one direction and not far enough in the other. I can't sit on my haunches because my ankles won't bend enough. I can't do a lot of yoga poses because my hands don't bend back at the wrist to 90 degrees. Yet I have loose ligaments so am injury prone. So much fun.

Catho78 profile image
Catho78Graduate10

Congratulations, such a relatable post.Thank you for this post and the inspiration. I know it’s an older post and I read it at the time. It came up the other day as a β€œnext post”and I re-read it and thought I’d aim to increase my pace in a similar fashion. I also love my long, slow runs and my 5k time had always been 41.30. I therefore set out aiming to keep each km at or under 8min/k to achieve sub 40, and I did it! I achieved a new PB of 38:33, thanks for the inspirational push, happy running πŸƒπŸ½β€β™€οΈ

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Jools2020Graduate10 in reply to Catho78

Huge well done to you! πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘

I know just how that feels! Of course, you know that, you read my post 😊

Happy to have been the inspirational push for you. I haven’t improved on that time, but I’ve done a few sub 40 minute 5Ks and it always feels good. As a slower runner (I now have 3 10 milers under my belt) it still feels good to have a burst of speed now and again 😊

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Catho78Graduate10 in reply to Jools2020

Thank you. I agree, congrats on 10 miles, I am aiming to hit 10K before Christmas then 10 mile next challenge. I surprised myself liking a bit of speed, but for shorter runs lol πŸ₯΅Thanks again

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Jools2020Graduate10 in reply to Catho78

To improve pace on the shorter runs, try some interval work. I sometimes do 60 seconds of sprinting 90 seconds slow jogging. 8 times, then slow jog to make it up to 4K. Try that once a week for a while. You’ll see the benefits πŸ‘

Catho78 profile image
Catho78Graduate10 in reply to Jools2020

Thanks, I will give that a go πŸ‘

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SueAppleRunGraduate1060minGraduate

Congratulations what a great run, not being exhausted after is a real bonus

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Jools2020Graduate10 in reply to SueAppleRun

This was 3 months ago, but is still my PB! Maybe I should try and beat it, but concentrating on longer distances right now πŸ‘

SueAppleRun profile image
SueAppleRunGraduate1060minGraduate in reply to Jools2020

I’m doing the speed challenge but what I enjoy is the longer easier runs, πŸ˜€so we are alike

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Jools2020Graduate10 in reply to SueAppleRun

We are! Love the long runs 😊

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