So I don't have copd then? I ask, oh no you do I was checking to rule another couple of things out
Are we now all treated like second class citizens for having been a dirty smoking habit which the chancellor and his croanies decided to bleed us all dry, shall we ever receive any tax refunds due back to us, after all as per almost every budget, cigs have been forced up in price, the actual model of selling them and now hiding them in shops whats all this about????? Sell the extorionist cigs to iriots like us then when we all come down with copd or other blf illness the government don't want to pay us benefits in any way shape of form - all I can hear ringing out is, been telling you to stop for long enough, so your on your own now!
Thanks so very much to everyone who supported me the other night, I was so grateful for all of your responses, you did all really help me XXXXXXXXXXXX Classybird - Louise
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I was sent for an x-ray by my GP in the last week. She expects mine to be clear as well, the pleurisy will not be visible I'm told. What she needs to know is if there's anything else in my lungs that wasn't there before.
Pleurisy is where the lining of the lungs becomes inflamed and causes sharp pain when you cough, sneeze, laugh or even just with breathing. Usually caused by a viral infection like flu or pneumonia but symptoms can be brought on by a pulmonary embolism (blood clot) or even lung cancer, so I'm awaiting results of an x-ray to make sure that's all clear.
I care for my hubby but I have never smoked. Pete smoked from age 15 to 40 and gave up due to sarcoidosis but now has copd too apparently because of the lung and airways damage caused by sarc. Our son (30 years old) has just quit, another son (35) smokes on and off and our daughter (also Louise - great name - aged 32) quit by reading the Alan Carr book some 4 years ago. Smoking caused the death of my dad and father-in-law because it was thought to be the thing to do back then and they both smoked for many years. It is incredibly addictive as I understand it, and so hard to give up but well done to all those that do. Stay well and warm (or dry depending on where you live) everyone. xxxx
I second your motion Classy!
When we all began smoking we had no idea what we were doing to ourselves, unlike the generation growing up now and yet I see more teenagers smoking...and not just tobacco either, despite the negative publicity and yet cocaine addicts are given more assistance than we are when trying to quit. Gross tax on cigarettes runs at around 60/65% of total cost so we've PAID for any treatment we get haven't we?
Doctors (and politicians) apparently knew in the18th century that tobacco was a killer, when they were first taxed I don't know but they kept the facts quiet to suit their own pockets (government) until it became public knowledge since when we've both been heavily taxed AND persecuted!
I tried to quit after seeing one of the first anti smoking ads on TV twenty something years ago...anyone recall it?
'John Cleese as a vicar on a pulpit telling us that if we don't quit we're going to burn in hell!'
I was so afraid for my soul that I stopped by going 'cold turkey' while in a very stressful domestic situation and ended up suicidal, severely depressed, psychotic and had a complete breakdown. I have never completely recovered my sanity and have been told by psychiatrists and a neurologist that smoking had messed my dopamine levels up so much that I should NEVER attempt to quit again.
Now - with 'Severe Mental Heath problems AND COPD' I enter the 'but I'm not ready to die' quit smoking phase two.
Is it really all my own fault? No, I refuse to accept that verdict! I love myself, whatever I am and will do whatever I can within my powers to improve myself. Day 3 and struggling!!!
Am I a church going, God fearing Christian? No, not by any means...I'm a pagan/scientologist. Do I believe in hell? Yes, I'm there right now!
Darned beurocrats - hope they all burn in hell! (Sorry - no offence to anyone in particular intended).
Well Lucky, I don't know how old you are but I am 58 and when I started smoking in 1970, I knew it was bad for me as those messages were out there then and before.
As I said earlier, nobody forced any of us to smoke, it was a personal choice for us all. I cannot blame the Government for that one. Nor anybody else.
Lynne xx
Well we had anti-smoking films & lectures when I was at school, showing the damage it can cause, and I'm 60! So most of us can't truly say we didn't know what we were doing, the dangers of smoking have been known about for a very long time. The trouble is that teenagers of all generations just want to appear cool and fit in with their friends, and by the time they've come to their senses they're hooked, whether it be tobacco or drugs.
I think we should spend more on helping people to give up addictive habits, and make smoking more socially unacceptable by banning it in public. I love being outside in the fresh air and am fed up with having to share outside spaces with smokers polluting the atmosphere.
Day 3 of not smoking, this means you are a non smoker.......Well done just keep going and very soon you will get to 7 weeks the same as me. I am not going to pretend it is easy but I am so proud of myself and you will be to. You seem to have other problems but concentrate on giving up the evil weed for now. I know you can do it this time. Eventually we must face up to our demons and that is what fags are, evil demons, kick em out of your life I know you will feel so much better. Good luck.
Thanks ff, most of what I said is really true and its just that also I was 11yrs old when I started smoking, way to young to know what I was doing, I guess I'm just upset, feel very ill and I'm annoyed with myself mostly, I never even considered anything like this would happen to me cos you don't do you? Anyway thanks for your support ff xx
No can of worms at all. Gosh, 11 is young to start smoking. When I started it was because friends did it.
None of my family smoked and my parents were horrified when they found me out. Did I get some lectures, but you are right, you think either that you can stop anytime you want or that it won't happen to you. We are all the same with that.
Lynne xx
You shouldn't beat yourself up classybird, there are lots of us who may not smoke but for example eat too much/eat the wrong things/get too little exercise etc etc but the important thing now is to try and stay positive and improve your current state of health - look to the future and decide you're going to give your body what it needs to stay as well as possible, you can stay stable and actually improve if you're careful and look after yourself
I joined the Royal navy in 1966 i was aged 16 and in the first 2 weeks we were all issued with stamps for free cigarettes i did not want to smoke because just being in a smokey atmosphere used to make me sick like going upstairs on a bus where people smoked used to make me sick . on the parade ground our instructor made it clear we were expected to shave even if you had nothing to shave and rediculed any of us that was not smoking as he put it this is a mans navy and the ones that were not smoking got plenty of stick off the instructor and other class mates so i started smoking it took awhile for me to get over the sickness of doing this and when i got my first ship all cigs were duty free and every body smoked in the tight messes that we lived in i was hooked yes i could have stopped but i carried on i was hooked same as other smokers my point is i would never have started but for the navy and i stopped a couple of years ago with the help of the quit smoking clinic the chap who helped me at the clinic told me the goverment knew of the health problems caused by smoking from early sixties they have a lot to answer for in my eyes they have had there taxes out of it and when the health costs rose above the taxes they start bleeting the warnings and as some of you have indicated treating people like us copd sufferers with contempt in my case they the goverment i feel have to share the blame.
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