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Just been reading a book called ‘Beating Bronchiectasis ‘ written by Daniel Pecaut.

Found it very interesting. One of the things he did was Buteyko breathing, and I wondered if anyone else has tried this?

I’ve been on the website and taken the pick below of some of the diagnosis’s they claim to help.

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I read a bit about the method but the nhs cant make its mind up.think other members are interested in it,i think cof drop but not sure,.

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No it’s not me hun. Never read it and no desire to. The title is very misleading and quite enough to put me off.

Cx

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sorry cofdrop obviously I've muddled things up.

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No probs sweetheart.

Cx

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knitter

Yes I have practised it and found it helpful for my asthma symptoms. On problem is that my lungs were damaged after contracting double pneumonia so I get a lot of chest infections which exacerbate my condition, and I have COPD now as well.

I went to classes as did two of my daughters, but they are very expensive, the quality of the teaching is very variable .....you have to be so careful. If done incorrectly the exercises can harm.

That said it was a lifesaver for me, but not suitable for many conditions.....in pregnancy, heart transplants, heart problems for instance. They help balance the O2 and CO2 levels by raising CO2 and some people here are CO2 retainers.

You need to get advice.

I have a book by Patrick McKeown , which I like.

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Cateran in reply to knitter

Your post knitter, as well as reiver's, and I am sure cofdrop will pick up on this, must come up against the contradiction that the title Beating Bronchiectasis is a misnomer. The inherent fact of bronchiectasis is that it can't be "beaten" in the sense of defeated or liquidated, unless Pecault is inferring that the term chronic somehow does not apply to BE. Which is why Living with Bronchiectasis makes more sense. I seem to recall that either in this forum or elsewhere Pecault's book has received a frosty reception and critique.

Terry

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cofdrop-UK in reply to Cateran

I too have read somewhere about its ‘frosty reception and critique’ Terry but I can’t for the life of me remember where.

Cx

yes I did read it was a controversial treatment on wiki.thats all I know,best to research it well.

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winter2013

Yes Ive read the book Dawn as well.

Re Buteyko breathing I felt it was more for improving asthma as oppose to asthma. I do have asthma also but it didn’t really suit me.

As to rest of book. Well it’s encouraging that he seemed to almost get rid of his Bronchiectasis. But!!.. he is super rich, lives in USA, had lots of people working on his behalf researching and gathering together the best practitioners in every field. I think it was a unique situation which I’d be surprised if applied to most of us on here... perhaps odd one?

Always good to be knowledgeable and pick up info on the way though.

Did you manage your break away?

Xxx

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Dawnsunny in reply to winter2013

Hi Winter

We go at Easter, so looking forward to it. 😁

I really enjoyed the book, bought it then found out you could read it for free 🙄.

I get where your coming from, I thought that too.

I did like that he was told ‘don’t get sick’ so he did everything he could do to reduce that, building up his immune system and I like that.

He used that style of breathing for his Bronchiectasis too.

I would also ask for advise before trying anything lol .

How are you? x

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winter2013 in reply to Dawnsunny

Yes agree re building up immune system.

So pleased you are having a break at Easter.. where to?

I’ve got all sorts of other problems now... IBS, reflux ( which can make lungs worse), ME , facial neuralgia so feeling abit low!

Trying meditation 🧘‍♀️!! Xxxx

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Dawnsunny in reply to winter2013

Aww sorry to hear that Winter.

I think it was reflux that did mine.

I have also been going through a very low stage, it really takes over your whole being! how do you find meditation? I’ve been thinking of that too.

We are going to Cala D’or. Beautiful hotel on the beach. I’m just praying everything will be ok as we approach the day 🤞

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winter2013 in reply to Dawnsunny

Cala d’or is so pretty ... 🤞 you deserve a lovely break!

Thanks for your understanding. It seems one thing after another with my health. I have a sort of silent reflux and get this “ stuck feeling” like my dinner has got stuck. Then start coughing chemical type fumes which seems a mystery to the medical profession. Respiratory consultant suspects reflux and I think as I am on lansoprazole that’s why it’s chemical. Anyway I often get this ... as now... when my IBS is abit better... odd? It has led to some worrying strange asthma type attacks which don’t respond to ventolin. Ended up calling 111 twice.

Then with the fatigue... moan moan.

Re meditation , not an instant fix but willing to try anything if it may help long term!!

Hug xx

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bit of savvy goes a long way.

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Dawnsunny

Gosh yes I get a stuck feeling too, had it for years but didn’t know why.... sometimes I feel like my throat is closing up too.

I’m well atm but worry all the time about what I’m going to be facing 😢

It’s all I think about.

Need to change my mind set which is why I thought meditation may help.

Thinking of you Winter xx 😘

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winter2013 in reply to Dawnsunny

It’s so hard to “ get out of yourself” when things keep on going wrong with your body and you feel you can’t control it and don’t know what will work.

Still we plod on trying to be positive, calm etc..... don’t feel am doing too well at moment but am trying!! Xx

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winter2013 in reply to Dawnsunny

Ps forgot to say!... glad you are feeling better. Let us know how your hol is! Xx

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sorry to butt in.just wanted to wish dawnsunny a nice holiday.x

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Thank you reiver xx

through reading this forum I know ive got silent reflux-I cant prove it but when I use green rescue inhaler it brings it on.its a good job I seen a post thinkit was02 trees saying when your indigestion repeats on you could lead to a pre cancer state,im going drs sharpish.also had ibs al my life and Ventolin has never done anything 4 me either.

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Hi reiver. I think you’re talking about Barrett’s oesophagus, which can be caused by long term acid reflux (if not properly treated) and slightly increases the risk of oesophageal cancer. Good idea to get checked out 👍

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Yes reiver,do get it checked out,i have recently been diagnosed with Barrett's and a hiatus hernia and i have never suffered reflux symptoms during my entire life to my know;edge, hence the expression silent reflux i assume x

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thx very much.I would have carried on taking stomach remedys.very much obliged to yourself and skischool.thank you.

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Badbessie

I have moderate emphysema, I do practice this breathing technique. It is definitely not a cure. I find that it as helped in controlling my breathing, I have researched this technique. I believe it can help with breathing BUT I do not believe it is a cure in any way shape or form as some of the "Salesmanship" would what you to believe. It played a part in my fitness program. However my good diet, weight gain and planned exercise played a greater roll.

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GDanker in reply to Badbessie

I have emphysema and several other lung problems. What I think about the Buteyko Method is that it is probably more effective on some COPD disorders than others. With emphysema, for example, the alveoli (air sacs) are damaged and there is no regenerating them. I do believe that it is, however, possible to strengthen the lung, in general, so that you feel better. My problem is that I have a hard time sticking with things. I give up too soon but it does seem that for the short while that I practiced what I had thus far learned of Buteyko, it did make me feel a little better. I'm going to try it again and this time stick with it. It is, after all, a form of exercise and that is what our lungs need regardless of what shape they are in. Also, I've noticed that they no longer emphasize emphysema as much as they used to. I've just read an article by them which states that this is a condition where if it's gone too far, there is not much that can be done. I think I'm still in the moderate stage myself. At least I hope so.

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Patches2

I took classes for Buteyko Breathing from Patrick McKeown. I have Life-Long Bronchiectasis. I learned to control my breathing, but it did not help my Bronchiectasis. However, personally I have seen miraculous results for those with Asthma.

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Dawnsunny in reply to Patches2

Thank you.

I have asthma too. Which area are the classes please?

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Patches2

If you search Buteyko Breathing all the details will come up.I had typed them out, but realized it may be against the rules to publish the information, but I am sure you will find all the information you need.

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