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Hi all,

I'm a trained chef who has set about designing & making food products which can help to relieve the COPD symptoms you suffer from. I would be most grateful if you could let me know what time of day you find your symptoms are at their worst so either morning, midday or evening? As by knowing this I can produce products which are in keeping with that time of day for example cereal for breakfast or a roast for dinner.

Many Thanks.

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peege profile image
peege

That's nice.

A lot of lung sufferers also have acid reflux, some quite badly so you could keep that in mind? Hope that helps a tiny bit.

Good luck

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M_Belardini in reply to peege

Hi Peege,

It does indeed, thank you very much. Could you just let me know as well what time of day you find your symptoms are at their worst please so either morning, midday or evening?

Kindest Regards,

Mark

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peege in reply to M_Belardini

I'm pretty well at the moment (and I don't have cold).

I'd be interested in low fat, low acid & high energy meals as I just get tired easily.

Many folks with severe conditions are underweight & have trouble putting weight on then there are others overweight or obese due to the inability to take exercise and/or steroid use which alters your appetite (I think) but you probably know all that 😃

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M_Belardini in reply to peege

Hi Peege, thanks for your swift response. I'm very glad your well but if you did have to say a time of day your symptoms are at their worst what would that be?

Haha I did indeed, the extra weight also makes it harder for these people to breathe as it pushes onto their lungs. Food for thought for me.

Thanks again Peege.

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peege in reply to M_Belardini

Night time is when I get sob

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M_Belardini in reply to peege

Thank you Peege for that.

Hi

Its an interesting question to ask us but as my COPD symptons is being out of breath im curious to know how your food products could alleviate that.

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medow in reply to

Hi Mandy I do agree with you, but I have found tomatoes really inflame me, thought it was a lot of nonsense about the deadly nightshade foods (tomatoes, potatoes, peppers, aubergines and a few others) did cut out tomatoes for about 8 weeks, thought it hadn't made any difference, then had 2 of the tiniest tomatoes, was in pain for hours, and really breathless for about 24 hours, shame because I love tomatoes and all the other stuff that's meant to be bad. Lovely day here today, just mucking about in the garden, hope your having a good one x

in reply to medow

Oh i completely agree there are foods that use to make my friends little girl stand on her head.......im just confused about his saying he can alleviate COPD symptoms as mine is breathlessness im not sure any food would help that....

Perhaps he means the other things that can go with it but as he dosnt answer messages there isnt much way to find out x

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M_Belardini in reply to

Hello Mandy,

That's a very good question. I've done some considerable research into COPD, having also consulted with COPD specialists, and certain foods are shown to reduce inflammation of the airways which in turn reduces the amount of mucus produced allowing you to breathe easier. I hope this helps. If you could let me know what time of day you find your symptoms are at their worst I would be most grateful.

Kind Regards

Mark

in reply to M_Belardini

Ok now thats interesting because i am a patient of Harefield transplant unit and we are given a lot of paper work to read about taking care of ourselves to prepare for transplant and nowhere in that information is there anything about eating certain foods to help improve the breathing its all aimed at keeping a good weight and a healthy normal diet ..........................

its something that i will be asking the team about in September when i go back because i think that sort of advice should be everywhere including the Pulmonary rehabilitation classes because they dont tell you about that there either

As for me personally im at my very worse on a morning

I find nowadays with my COPD that I can't eat spicy food eg curry unless it's really mild

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Puffthemagicdragon in reply to

How we differ ! I love my donar kebabs. I even have bottles of chilli sauce at home so I can put more on ! I love Vindaloo as well. I've tried phall but that's a little too hot sometimes. :)

in reply to Puffthemagicdragon

Oh I used to love donner kebabs but can't get them locally now. I actually had an Indian curry tonight, chicken dopiaza. I really enjoyed it but just took it nice & easy! Lovely! 😋

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Puffthemagicdragon in reply to

You're making me jealous ! :)

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Sokrackers in reply to Puffthemagicdragon

What about a sharwarma? Sorry but it's replaced the donner in my life. He he he of course with both chilli garlic and jalapeños. Honk honk I'm a piglet (no offence meant towards piglets)

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Puffthemagicdragon in reply to Sokrackers

Never heard of that. I'll check it out.

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Sokrackers in reply to Puffthemagicdragon

Dangerous don't LOL its usually chicken or lamb or mixed. But 'real' chicken layered and spiced up and cooked like the grease ball of a donner served on a freshly baked flat bread with salad and sauce. If you put any weight on or get addicted don't blame me. Also about 3 quid so happy days.

Enjoy

SK

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Puffthemagicdragon in reply to Sokrackers

I'll check my local takeaways and see if any do it :)

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Sokrackers in reply to Puffthemagicdragon

Remember I warned you!

Xxx

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Puffthemagicdragon in reply to Sokrackers

I take full responsibility ! :)

in reply to Sokrackers

Sounds delicious! 😋 but can't say I've heard of it! No doubt toooo spicy for me! 😓

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M_Belardini in reply to

Hello Happytochat,

Thanks for the insight. Could you also let me know what time of day your COPD symptoms are at their worst please. Morning, Midday or Evening?

Kind Regards

Mark

I may be wrong but as this seems to be related to a business you are involved with you may need to get approved by admin to use the site in this way.

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M_Belardini in reply to

Hello Bagpus,

In terms of it being a money making scheme that couldn't be further from the truth. I do however appreciate where you are coming from as being diabetic I have also come up against companies just looking to exploit my illness for the sake of profit. However, the reason I have ventured into this project is because both my mum and dad have COPD (my mum chronic bronchitis and my dad emphysema) also the condition sadly took the life of my dear grandad. By no means will I be taking even a single penny of profit from the products produced (if they make any) it will all be going to a COPD charity (the BLF has been mooted by my advisors). I hope you now understand that there are people out there who genuinely care and I'm one of them :).

Kind Regards,

Mark

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cofdrop-UK

Is it just copd you are catering for MB as quite a few of us on here have otherd respiratory conditions.

cx

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M_Belardini in reply to cofdrop-UK

Hello cofdrop,

What conditions are these? And, what do they entail? I'd be more than happy to look into them :).

Kind Regards,

Mark

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cofdrop-UK in reply to M_Belardini

Hi Mark

There are quite a lot of respiratory conditions. I only have personal knowledge of Bronchiectasis and Asthma. Although bronchiectasis is completely different to copd we have many of the same symptoms. SOB of course.

Many bronchs make copious amounts of mucus.

Lots of folks on here have reflux.

As we have to take frequent anti biotics we can get gastro intestinal problems and/or thrush.

Inflammation plays a huge part in all lung conditions.

It doesn't effect me at a certain time of the day, more like all day, proably better following physio.

It's great that you have approached folks who are actually dealing with these problems on a daily basis. I just wonder if it would be helpful to you to speak also to a respiratory dietician. They would know the facts of what, if anything would help to reduce mucus and inflammation.

Good luck Mark and please let us know how it goes.

cx

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I find the evenings worse for me. x

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M_Belardini in reply to

Thank you very much Coughalot for your reply.

My lovely partner always adds certain foods with my dinners that help with my lungs. Even if it's just to help with the immune system.

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Polly4acre

Well, what a rant! Perhaps this chef plans to do as I do, pass on recipes for free. I have, over the past four years devised recipes for my daughter who was having 3-5 day migraines until it discovered she is sensitive to gluten, maize, tomatoes and other foodstuffs. Now she only has the occasional attack.

I contibute food my sister's church for the Harvest supper since so many attendants, including the Minister, have coeliac disease.I always print off the recipes for people to take with each dish. Pro bono could well be his motive and it would not amaze me if diet could play a role in alleviating lung disorders, new discoveries come along all the time. A bit of tolerance, please, until you know the motives behind that post. Polly4acre

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M_Belardini in reply to Polly4acre

I really appreciate the support Polly4acre and you have hit the nail on the head. And, good on you for all the good you do :). Could you let me know what time of the day your conditions are at their worst please as that would be really helpful.

Kindest Regards,

Mark

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Ergendl

If our blood gets slightly more acidic from normal, we blow it off as we breathe out. I once made a sweet/sour sauce by taste rather than by measuring ingredients and gave my then husband a bad attack of the wheezes as his COPD and asthma made him struggle to blow off the vinegar and fruit juice acids in the sauce.

Portion control is also quite important, as large meals in the stomach press on the lungs and diaphragm, making it harder to breathe, and increase the risk of acid reflux and acidic fumes invading the airways.

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velvet55 in reply to Ergendl

Hi eregendal

Vinegar fumes !!!!! my worst enemy, starts me off coughing....brown sauce also.

Never suffered with acid reflux, but large meals do press on my lungs and diaphragm..so a lay down and a good snooze are vital for me after a big meal...I do get some funny looks from the other diners in the restaurant !!

Velvet xx

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M_Belardini in reply to Ergendl

Thank you for that insight eregendal. Could you let me know what time of the day your conditions are at their worst please as that would be really helpful.

Kindest regards,

Mark

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Ergendl in reply to M_Belardini

The time of day doesn't usually affect me. I get exacerbations when I exert myself too much, overeat, or find myself in a very humid or polluted atmosphere - that includes some air fresheners, aromatic oils and perfumes.

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velvet55

Calm down, think of your Blood Pressure.

I have no views either way on this subject, but the Guy/Lady said the aim was to relieve the symptoms of COPD, not cure it.

Velvet xx

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velvet55 in reply to velvet55

Oh by the way, like many on this site I am sick, but certainly not vulnerable.

We are a bunch of intelligent, well informed people, who are quite capable of making our own choices and decisions over what does / does not help us, and we share this information with each other.

Velvet xx

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sassy59

Loving the idea of food helping with any illness, COPD being just one, but we have had no reply from said chef as yet so am a tiny bit cynical and suspicious. Pipe up chef if you can really offer help or just pipe down. Thanks. xx

in reply to sassy59

Exactly! Where are you chef? Come on then & give us your wonderful recipes that are going to benefit all of us with COPD. I await with bated breath! 😉

in reply to sassy59

There was no reply from his previous post he did either x

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M_Belardini in reply to sassy59

Hi Sassy59,

Apologies for the delayed reply chef hours are both long and tiring is all I can say, especially at the weekend.

Could you let me know what time of the day your conditions are at their worst please as that would be really helpful.

Kind Regards,

Mark

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sassy59 in reply to M_Belardini

Hi Mark, thank you for replying and I do appreciate how busy you must be. I am carer for my husband and he has sarcoidosos and COPD. I would say there is no specific time of day that Pete is worse and I would pin a medal on the person who managed to get him to eat special foods. It seems like a good idea but one we will pass on thank you.

Wishing you well. xx

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mskpjb

ivgot241 if you`ve just this second joined I think you should calm down. He may be naive but I feel the intention was not to "mess with vulnerable people " but to gain some knowledge of how certain foods affect us. Some people have replied quite sensibly, which is what the original poster wanted. Do no foods affect you ? Maybe you`re one of the lucky ones.

Sheila

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M_Belardini in reply to mskpjb

Hi mskpjb,

Thank you for your support it has been well received. Could you tell me when your COPD conditions are at their worst in the day please? So either Morning, Midday or Evening.

Kindest Regards,

Mark

Me ?

Thank you for the advice but we are all capable of making our own decisions.

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M_Belardini

Thank you very much for your helpful response Flibberti.

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undine

I feel worse usually when I get up and start to walk but do not really do breakfast- just a croissant - ok as I move a bit more but only have small meal - little and often is what they recommend - start to go downhill again later in the day. Good luck with your project - let us in on any tips you find please thank you.

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M_Belardini in reply to undine

Hello undine,

Thank you very much for your useful response. I will let you know everything useful I find out.

Kindest Regards,

Mark

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M_Belardini

Hello all,

I would just like to start by saying a big thank you to everyone who has taken the time to comment on this post I really do appreciate it, it has been most helpful. In terms of it being a money making scheme that couldn't be further from the truth. I do however appreciate where some of you are coming from as being diabetic I have also come up against companies just looking to exploit my illness for the sake of profit. However, the reason I have ventured into this project is because both my mum and dad have COPD (my mum chronic bronchitis and my dad emphysema) also the condition sadly took the life of my dear grandad. By no means will I be taking even a single penny of profit from the products produced (if they make any) it will all be going to a COPD charity (the BLF has been mooted by my advisors). I will be posting more questions over the next couple of weeks which if you could answer that would be great as it will help me to produce products which are as beneficial to you as can be.

Many thanks.

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M_Belardini

Thanks for the heads up Flibberti, and again for your support. I hope to see your insights on my questions to follow shortly :).

Can you tell us what foods you have found that alleviate the symptoms we have please

Can you please provide us with some evidence of the foods you have found that relieve these symptoms.

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