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I have been reading many articles that food grade Hydrogen Peroxide can heal Copd, especially when it is broken down with distiller water and flushed into your system with a syringe.

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huh

thats bleach

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Check it out on internet, or amazon oneminute ure.com There are many articles written by Doctors Mandy

just please dont do anything yourself without telling your nurse what your doing

some of the doctors and nurses ive sat face to face with have given me terrible information i woulnd take to much notice of whats online

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Drinking or injecting high-strength hydrogen peroxide products sold online to treat serious diseases such as AIDS can be harmful. The "35 percent food grade hydrogen peroxide" products are highly corrosive and ingesting them could cause stomach irritation and ulcers, gastrointestinal erosion, and perforation. Injecting the products intravenously could lead to blood vessel inflammation, bubbles in blood vessels and potentially life-threatening allergic reactions. The FDA has not approved 35 percent hydrogen peroxide for any use. The agency sent warnings to two Texas-based firms, DFWX and Frad 35 Inc., in which the agency said the firms were illegally selling 35 percent hydrogen peroxide products to treat AIDS, cancer, emphysema and other serious diseases.

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You have been misinformed, read up on the subject please! The F.D.A won't approve it because the pharmaceutical companies would lose trillions in revenue, and quite frankly I think they have a lot to answer for. Food grade hydrogen peroxide is perfectly SAFE to take, it provides the body with oxygen, which is needed to kill off the bacteria etc so that the body can self heal, these bacterium flourish in our bodies due to the fact that we do not have enough oxygen. I am a firm believer in this treatment, I have mild emphysema and I feel great, I am active, alert and happy and I am 60 years young. Thanks H202. Please read One MINUTE CURE. It will tell you everything you need to know and the writer has really done her research.

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Jeremy76 in reply to ditowler

I believe you.

You know the government in Hong Kong has made food grade H202 illegal here.

The money in pharma here is crazy. My wife gets a common cold,goes to the doctor and comes back with about 20 different drugs to 'treat' her ailment.

Nothing a nice cup of lemon tea and a day off work wont fix.

Ditowler, can you help me find food grade H202?

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Hi Jeremy, food grade H202 can be purchased online, go to ebay and have a look. I am currently taking Cellfood, just type Cellfood into your browser and it will take you to their homepage. I will continue with the H202, but I just wanted to try Cellfood because it sounded more beneficial, and the reviews were very impressive. I am coughing up a lot of junk right now, but it is helping my chest immensely, and improves my breathing. I am looking into everything natural, I have changed my diet and I feel a lot better. Good luck and long life.

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hi ya could you please tell me where you get the cellfood from as I would like to give it a try thanks

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Buzzman in reply to ditowler

Just ordered book thanks

Yes, some people try it either ingested in a VERY DILUTE food-grade form, inhale it, or (for non-lung related issues) apply it topically or gargle it. See links below to some previous discussions on here. You can also use search button on the top right of green bar to find other previous posts. May be wise to discuss with your doctor/nurse before proceeding. Cheersxx

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Well I plan to water it down, there are so many positive healings, I have researched. Don't seem to be able to get any other help, puffers don't seem to help, will be careful.

Well I plan to water it down, there are so many positive healings, I have researched. Don't seem to be able to get any other help, puffers don't seem to help, will be careful.

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Hi, in one of the recent posts I copied above someone wrote about a month ago that they would be trying the therapy (INGESTING VERY DILUTED)and are writing a blog about it at:claredoolan.com/hydrogen-pe... Why don't you let us know how you go if you are actually going to try it? Will you be ingesting it or inhaling? Please be careful and see a doctor if in any doubt. Please do not inject this as it can be very dangerous!!!Good luckxxx.

I have reported this post as inappropriate. This action has the potential to be very dangerous, either to this person, or to someone else desperate to try new alternatives.

Also I wonder if this is a spam post. It is a very strange subject for a first post on this site.

If I am wrong, then I apologise, but surely safety comes first.

johnwr.

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Sounds very risky to me

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Hi John, for what it's worth I do not agree with you that this post is inappropriate. It is important for us all to air our thoughts, get some feedback and then of course we make our own decision. It is very important to be able to get feedback on controversial topics, and that is more helpful for everyone than banning discussion on such topics.

Cheersxx

Sorry but I would not touch it at all. not unless it was with a fully qualified Doctor at the very least and probably not then to be honest.

My opinion!

Be Well

This seems a controversial treatment ... i am too scared to try this tho.

Well I have thoroughly researched it, and it seems very safe with a nebuliser.

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jenss in reply to carmwoman

HI carmwoman, I would like to hear of your progress. Would be great if you could let us know by posting updates? Best of luck with it I hope it helps you.Cheersxx

Hi guys - I am open to discussion on contraversial remidies or helpers. In doing my research I came across a previous post from stilltruckin (hope you don't mind me quoting you again). Hyrogen peroxide is a compound of honey - I would be happy to take honey and ingest HP naturally?

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[Quote] Hydrogen peroxide is a component of honey. It gives most honey its antibiotic quality, but some types of honey, including manuka honey, also have other components with antibacterial qualities.

Hi Jens, just started today, with Nebuliser and throat spray, guess it will take time, but will let you know, anyway.

Cheers, and thanks for your good wishes,

Carmwoman

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Thanks I will look forward to hearing your progress. Please be careful though and get prompt medical advice/help if in any doubt. Take carexxx

I am currently taking this orally, please read the book ' one minute cure ' it tells you all about hydrogen peroxide treatment, a great read and I am hoping that this treatment will help me.

Hello Di,

I have just got the book too, have started today, with nebuliser and spray in throat, hope we have success. Good luck to both of us.

Cheers,

Carmwoman

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ditowler in reply to carmwoman

I know we will honey, I feel very positive about this. GOOD LUCK to you also amd keep me updated on your progress.

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Hi Di, interesting: how long have you been taking it and what for? I have read on that blog that I pointed out above, that the person stopped after 10 days as they felt very unwell due to their body going into a healing crisis which they expected to happen during the initial 25 days....Where did you get the (food grade?) 35% stock solution from? I must admit I am too scared to go ahead (I may consider it to help boost immune system), but considering that our bodies produce H2O2 every day and we consume it in our foods it may be ok as you suggest based on your research.....

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Hi Jenss, I am a new starter also, however I did a full detox before starting the h202. Yes, it does make you feel unwell in the first few days, due to the body dumpimg the dead bacteria, however it does not last. I have mild copd and I do not want to end up on an oxygen machine, so I am willing to try anything. Unfortunately we dont get enough oxygen due to our atmosphere and we destroy the oxygen in our foods through cooking. If this wasn't safe I wouldn't be taking it, but after reading all the reports from doctors who have used it, I do believe that this is a miracle.

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Hi Di, my understanding with ingesting is that it gets broken down in the gastro-intestinal tract to water and oxygen. So the H2O2 does not get absorbed into the body. The oxygen generated in the gastrointestinal tract will have positive effect on the "healthy" gut flora and suppress/kill the "not so good" anaerobic bacteria. Therefore, the effect is that the immune system (as most of that is related to gut health) is strengthened. Do you agree that this is what happens? I am not sure if you would expect any of the oxygen generated in the gastrointestinal tract to be absorbed in the blood as that would already be saturated from gas exchange in the lungs? Also what strength are you taking? Are you doing the ramping up as suggested in that blog I referred to and then having lower maintenance doses? Cheers, xx

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Hi Jenss. I am currently ingesting 35% food grade, I am on 6 drops in distilled water 3 x day and am starting on a mouth spray which I can breathe into my lungs tomorrow. I did detox before starting my h202, to do this was making and drinking a juice every morning from apple, carrot and beetroot. Very delicious and very powerful. I understand what you are saying about ingesting and the gut, however, I do believe that no matter how I take it, it won't hurt me, having said that of course the whole point of this exercise is to clean my lungs and mouth spray in a fine mist which can be inhaled will be more beneficial. I will ramp it up to 25 drops per 8ozs over time and then start decreasing. Feeling very positive about this and I will give it my best shot. I keep a spreadsheet on a daily basis, noting times that I take this and any changes that may show up. I use a peak flow meter 3 x day and record that also. Hope this answers your question and I hope you are feeling ok.

Cheers from Aussie. Di.:-)

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Hi Di, thanks for your reply. I agree that low concentrations and low amounts will not hurt if taken as you describe (I am a bit worried about the ramping up though especially as people feel quite sick then). Seeing that it gets broken down in the gut I can see how it can improve immunity which may or may not affect lung health (but I suppose getting less infections due to improved immunity is already improvement). If it is inhaled I suppose it would act on bacteria present and stop infections. Do you expect any other benefit? Great that you are methodically recording everything - please share with us what you are finding?

Cheers, xxx

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Hi again, I can't say that I will reach 25 drops 3x day, just take each day as it goes, the whole point of the feeling sick stage is to tell you that the h202 is working and I will be feeling sick because my body is getting rid of the dead bacteria etc, this only lasts for a few days and then everything is great. I chose to follow this line of treatment after reading a lot of the posts on this site. A lot of these people are very ill and I feel so very sorry for them, no one should ever have to feel that bad, no matter what the cause, people despair when the medication they use dosen't work or help and their anxiety levels spike which makes their condition worse. I promised myself that I would not let myself get to that stage and I will do and try anything to keep that promise. I am very active, feel fine and enjoy life, yes, I do get a bit breathless at times but my specialist says I only have a touch of emphysema and he dosen't need to see me again, I just have to take Spiriva every morning and get on with the day. I do not dwell on my condition, but respect that it could get worse. I have been a slave to cigarettes for many years and now I am fighting back. I hope to talk with you again

Cheers

Di xx

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Hi Di, the only complaint I have so far is it hurts my throat, but I am easing that now by ingesting some coconut oil just before I spray it in,only 3rd day on it for me, I am thinking it will take at least 6 weeks, before I notice a change.

Thanks for all the messages, but I would rather try something with such positive research than do nothing.

Cheers,

Carmwoman

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Hi Di, the only complaint I have so far is it hurts my throat, but I am easing that now by ingesting some coconut oil just before I spray it in,only 3rd day on it for me, I am thinking it will take at least 6 weeks, before I notice a change.

Thanks for all the messages, but I would rather try something with such positive research than do nothing.

Cheers,

Carmwoman

Hi Carmwoman here,

For what it's worth, hydrogen oxygen is just water with an extra ozone added, and virus, fungus, bacteria cannot live in an oxygenated body from 25 articles I have researched. I feel like Di, I am excited, as these puffers are a waste of time for me, and I have severe emphysema. I pray that it will work, nothing much available offering otherwise.

Cheers,

Carmwoman

Hi Carmwoman here,

For what it's worth, hydrogen oxygen is just water with an extra ozone added, and virus, fungus, bacteria cannot live in an oxygenated body from 25 articles I have researched. I feel like Di, I am excited, as these puffers are a waste of time for me, and I have severe emphysema. I pray that it will work, nothing much available offering otherwise.

Cheers,

Carmwoman

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Hi Carmwoman, good to hear from you hun. I just want to point out: although hydrogen peroxide based on its chemical structure appears to be just water with an extra oxygen atom added, it is a very strong oxidising agent. It can cause severe and IRREVERSIBLE damage to biological materials such as proteins in our skins and tissues at high concentrations (anything above 3 to 5%). So if you are using it, you need to be very careful with the concentrated stock solution and be very careful to dilute it correctly (important to use distilled water for dilution). It also needs to be food-grade. I hope this helps and as I said I wish you success and hope it helps you. Best wishes and take care of yourselfxxx

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Jess, I agree with everything Di has texed, I have faith, in this, Hydrogen peroxide is not a bleach it is water, with an extra ozone in it same as rain water.

Just having the patience to effect the healing now.

Carmwoman

Some people will listen to any thing if it worked do they thing that the doctors would give it to them yes they will as in the long run it will be a lot cheaper for the nhs . So if I was. Anyone who is thinking about talking it take to your gp and your doctors in the hospital as well before you do any think or do they want to go to a early grave . Sorry to be so hash but that is the way I look at it happy breathing JUST THING BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING

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I do not agree with you David12,

I have thoroughly researched the subject, know what I am doing, no other treatment is helping, I think you have a closed mind.

Carmwoman I do not have a close mind far from it I have lost two sisters from copd one I Newcastle and one in swansea the one in Newcastle had different meds and treatment than the one in swansea plus she tryed everything she read on the net one lived six months after the other I have sever. Copd yes I take only what the docs give me but the only different thing I do from my sisters is I like my pond and garden I do add MIT I do not do any off the hard work my sons do it for me plus I have a 4x4 which I have had for 8 years and I allwAys make sure it is road worthe plus I go to therapy ones a week that is all I do different from them plus I also got a muscle disorder so getting round his harder so I am useing my chest muscles a lot more it can take me any thing up to 20 min to go to toilet and out to the kitchin from the time I get up in the morining if I told you what some people take for it you will be very supprise and they say it works for them but it is against the law to have it never mind take it I mite be old fashion but my mind is open to any thing that works but it has to be proven not just what some one says on the net

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I am sorry about your sisters David! Also your own health problems, but I have healed myself from Crohns Disease by my own research and natural therapies, and so I believe you have to help yourself as well, and I have thousands of articles I have researched that says this HP treatment can work, and I am taking it now.

I wish you well, but you must try and do whatever you can to help yourself also.

Take care,

Carmwoman

woah sounds dangerous!!!!!!!!! I would rather follow my doctors advice please be careful !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There is no cure for emphysema - ask anyone who is properly medically qualified.

Hi Di You signed off as Aussie Di are you in Australia? I am Danielle I have Emphysema was diagnosed in 2000 but had symptoms back in the 80s so was in my twenties when I first noticed something was wrong. I am quite severe but not on o2 as yet (touch wood). I take Symbicort and Atrovent and QVar. I try and walk everyday but have been very slack of late. I have been following your posts on taking the H2o2. Congrats to you and Carmwoman for being so pro active in your own well being. I wish I had the guts to try it but I don't. I will however read up on it and get the book you suggested if I can remember the title. I am only 57 and to tell you the truth I don't have time to sit around due to not being able to breath properly. I know people say speak with your Dr first but it depends if your Dr is open to alternative therapies as to wether he will agree with it or not. I look forward to hearing back from both of you as to your progress. What a shame it was reported that was so uncalled for. Some people are so closed minded.

Danielle

Hi carmwoman, I don't want to dampen your spirits but I'm afraid once your diagnosed with emphysema there is no cure. The first thing your GP should do is

refer you to the respiratory clinic at your local hospital where you will undergo a spirometry test to measure your FEV. once they find what it is they will know what

medication will suit you best, such as inhalers, its a long drawn out process you will get there but how you manage is up to you, but I've been fighting it since 1995, I've been on oxygen for 8years now and I'm doing quite well so good luck for the future.

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