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Really struggling with chest pain & breathless I’m sure it’s to do with the amount of medication I’m on

Statins 20 mg

Nitrate 40mg

Bisoprolol 3.75

Thyroxine 75mg

Hrt

Perindopril 4mg

Asprin 75mg

Folic acid 5mg

Heart attack may last year with 2 stents fitted have had pain on & off ever since which is why they stopped rehab, do have 45% blockage in my LAD which consultant said they could stent but would need to be a split stent so going down medication route, but since the nitrate & using bisoprol the pain seems daily, I try not to worry my family but I’m struggling, sorry if I’ve rambled but just needed to vent. Mandy

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shopman profile image
shopman

Hello

If you are breathless & have chest pain then you should really be contacting 999 for help. At the very least you should be talking to 111. None of us here have any medical training so really cannot offer any advice other than that based on our own experiences. Pleasse keep us up to date with progress.

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MichaelJHHeart Star

Totally agree with Shopman. There is a condition known as restenosis where a stent can become blocked or restricted in a relatively short timeframe. A 45% blockage in the LAD would not normally cause angina in itself. Make that phone call!

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Passes in reply to MichaelJH

Thanks for reply I’m seeing consultant Tuesday I’ve had mri and they say heart working ok till they stress it, so thought it was angina but this pain is daily since the nitrate, also the left side off chest seemed swollen

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Also my Gp seems reluctant to change any off my meds, have just stopped ticagrelor 3 weeks ago as been on them a year

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shopman in reply to Passes

All the more reason to get it checked ASAP - better safe than sorry. I am sure they will not mind, after all it is the weekend.

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Sillyfroggy

I’m not an HCP but the majority of your meds prevent what you’re feeling so I would definitely agree, get checked. I’m on almost the same, except my HRT was stopped following my HA as they are contraindicated.

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Passes in reply to Sillyfroggy

The consultant said I could go back on hrt due to me having hysterectomy, also the consultant said he doesn’t think the pain is my heart, think because this is a daily that’s why I think it’s got to be my meds just wondered if anyone experienced anything like this

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MilkfairyHeart Star

Has your Cardiologist considered

Non obstructive coronary artery disease?

Microvascular angina is more common in women around the menopause or if they have had a hysterectomy.

It is poorly understood and recognised condition by many Cardiologists.

The BHF has the following information about MVA which you may find helpful.

bhf.org.uk/informationsuppo...

bhf.org.uk/informationsuppo...

This link is about Jennifer Waller who had bypass surgery but still had chest pain and breathlessness afterwards her eventual diagnosis was Microvascular angina.

bhf.org.uk/informationsuppo...

I live with both Microvascular and vasospastic angina and experience frequent daily chest pain.

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Passes in reply to Milkfairy

Thank you milkfairy for your reply I will read the links you sent as I know from other comment you have a good knowledge in this, thank you

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Passes in reply to Milkfairy

Will bring this up with my cardiologist when I see him Tuesday, is your pain only n the left side as mine is feels like a pulling but with swelling

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MilkfairyHeart Star in reply to Passes

Where someone feels their angina is very individual to them.

I don't feel ' classic ' angina chest pain. Though I do feel most of my pain in my left side.

Perhaps take a printout of the BHF information about MVA to your Cardiologist to look at.

The information is researched based and they use medical and patient expert advisors.

Just a thought beta blockers can make vasospasms worse. Ask you Cardiologist about perhaps gradually reducing your beta blocker or switching to a newer more heart specific beta blocker such as nebivolol.

I hope your appointment helps you get the answers you need.

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Passes in reply to Milkfairy

Thank you I am seeing about reducing some meds if possible I know it’s trial & error and I have to allow time for my body to adjust to new meds

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Clerkenweller

The meds are quite normal and the dosages are not high (eg I’m on 80mg statin) I agree with all the comments. Don’t wait. Get yourself t A &E.

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Passes in reply to Clerkenweller

U too was on 80mg statins but over the year have got my cholesterol down to 3.4 from 7.9 so have slowly reduced them but have been put on more other meds for possible angina but since then have experienced more constant pain

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JonathanH

Mandy,

I greatly agree with Milkfairy. As I understand it, your symptoms were made worse by the nitrate and bisoprolol, and - reading between the lines - you are suffering from pretty much continuous pain.

I have microvascular angina and belong to a group of MVA sufferers for whom GTN (nitrate) makes the angina worse. I just wonder if this could be happening to you, though indeed it might equally be that one of your other drugs is disagreeing with you for some reason (I see that Milkfairy has offered the suggestion that, if you are experiencing vasospasms, the bisoprolol could be making them worse). In any event, my experience of MVA is continuous pain. Unlike you, though, I haven't had a heart attack and my arteries are not obstructed, so your position is more complicated.

If you do have microvascular angina, a calcium channel blocker should help (in particular diltiazem), though different people respond differently to different drugs. It might be worth asking your cardiologist to try prescribing diltiazem. My understanding is that, similarly to beta-blockers, diltiazem slows the heart: there might therefore be a rationale for reducing or stopping the bisoprolol at the same time.

If nitrate is making you worse, the pain should be relieved fairly promptly after any discontinuation.

I am sorry that life is a struggle for you. If it is any consolation, many others on here have shared that experience. More positively, some tweaking of your drugs may make a real improvement, but it may take more than one tweak.

Please let us know how you get on.

Jonathan

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Passes

Hi Jonathan yes my pain is more continuous since nitrate & bisoprolol was increased but I felt I had to give it a chance but it’s now been 3 months, the problem I have is my Gp is reluctant to change meds and not being intouch with a cardiac nurse anymore I have to wait to see cardiologist

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will take notes in with me when seeing consultant

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Passes

Will be taking notes i

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Passes

Hi all thank for all the reply just a update see cardiologist yesterday finally got someone to examine my chest & he convinced that my pain is muscular and not connected to my heart or medication although he has agreed to reduce two off my meds, also told me to take ibuprofen 3 times a day for a week to see if this eases the problem, didn’t think was allowed to take but says it alright to do, so fingers crossed thing start to easy. Mandy

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