Thoughts

[Trees2357]

Does anyone else have obsessive thoughts? That keeps anxiety going. I'm afraid of anxiety and thoughts. I need help

[Hidden]

Hi Trees2357,

The main part of my problem with anxiety is I was over thinking things too much and it was just making things worse. I finally managed to get with a CBT Therapist and things are starting to get better. Have you been able to get anything similar to help you?

[Trees2357 in reply to Hidden]

Yeah but nobody that's real good at it. My thoughts are obsessive I can't stop them.

[Hidden in reply to Trees2357]

I must admit the first CBT Therapist I was given actually made me worse so I had to request another one. Are you in the UK?

[Trees2357 in reply to Hidden]

No usa

[Trees2357 in reply to Hidden]

You know how bad it is here. I was excited because I had an appt with a new psychiatrist last week. Really liked her. She gave me her card and said call when I want an appt. I have been calling all week and no answer. I finally got the receptionist today and she said Dr. Jesse said it would be better if I came in the summer. Is that crazy or what

[HearYou in reply to Trees2357]

What? Did Dr. Jesse's receptionist give you a reason? Well, it's summer somewhere, like in Florida, I would be tempted to be polite and call back and say you are really sorry that Dr. Jesse is gravely ill, and can't see you sooner, and you'll let other people who want to see her know this. The receptionist probably in a panic, say Dr.Jesse isn't ill.....but that was the only reason you could think of that she can't see you before summer. Ask again for another app't. sooner. Good luck.

[Trees2357 in reply to HearYou]

I did call back but they didn't answer so I left a message

[HearYou in reply to Trees2357]

Keep calling and leaving messages. The weekend is almost here and you KNOW no one is there then. Mention that issue that you think the doctor is gravely ill and will let others know why one is answering. See if that works.

Do you have a therapist in addition to your doctor? If so reach out to her/him for some help.

[Trees2357 in reply to HearYou]

I do have a therapist and doctor but I wanted to switch doctors. I guess that's over

[HearYou in reply to Trees2357]

Maybe.

[Trees2357 in reply to HearYou]

The doctor said I should come in the summer. Is that crazy or what?

[Hidden]

Ok. I don't know if there is any medication you can be given to help lessen the thoughts? I was given techniques to help me by my last Therapist which help. I assume CBT would be the same in USA as here. I'll have a look through my stuff for anything that may help you.

[Trees2357 in reply to Hidden]

Thank you

[trenchmob2 in reply to Trees2357]

I have taken Klonopin for awhile it helps reduced the ruminations and obsessive thoughts for to a high degree. And the effects last 8-14hrs. It’s along acting benzo. I take .5mg x2 a day. And if I can’t sleep Xanax or Ativan will do the trick. Good luck in finding a Dr. Best Wishes 👍🏼

[Trees2357 in reply to trenchmob2]

I take 2 mg of klonopin

[Trees2357 in reply to trenchmob2]

And I feel terrible

[Hidden]

What do you think will happen to you? thoughts are nothing more than messages made up by your mind, if your mind is anxious then your thoughts will be too, your ok, thoughts can be unpleasant but your quite safe, they won't harm you xxx

[Trees2357 in reply to Hidden]

Can't stop crying afraid of anxiety but more afraid of fear

[Hidden in reply to Trees2357]

Afraid of fear and stuck in the cycle, you must break the cycle, there's so much information, guidance, knowledge and literature out there, use it to your advantage, study anxiety and as soon as you begin to understand how it works you'll begin to feel the benefits and relief you crave xxx

[HearYou]

If you are Trees, you have received and been offered all that many on this community could, and have reminded you resources available with our strong support ,but you do not use the resources available to you. My best to you. You need help, but is right where you are, and refuse to us it. Don't know what more to offer until you take a step to help yourself, rather than just posting you need help. Wish you the best.

You have asked these same questions over and over for 10 months.

[Bttallen in reply to HearYou]

I saw your reply to Trees. I am new to this group and have very bad anxiety and panic disorder, also ocd. I am on meds which help but do not resolve the problem. I wonder if you could provide me with some resources which are available. I would really appreciate it. Thanks!

[HearYou in reply to Bttallen]

Hello. I am going to make a suggestion. I do not know where you live, but if you would read all the 'posts" by Trees2357 and all the replies she received over the last 10 months I think you will find much support in dealing with your conditions as well as some specific places that a very good, kind member of this community found near her home. We really don't do that, and I have no library of resources......so that is why I suggest you read all of Trees posts and responses Also the administrators have some info in the margins of your page. Welcome and just keep reading and post for help. We're here for everyone and each one of us needs specific help to match our needs. You are going to be glad you joined. xx

[Trees2357 in reply to HearYou]

I need help with the thoughts. I can't stop them I scare myself more.

[b1b1b1]

Hear You is correct. At this point only you can help yourself. Posting the same question over and over is not helpful to anyone.

[Starrlight]

(((((((((Hug)))))))))) Intrusive thoughts are tricky. Don’t give them power. Try to picture letting them go on a leaf fown s river or let them go in a train passing by... whatever works but just don’t let yourself believe in the thoughts, the negative thoughts are usually false. Replace them with positive thoughts. Try living in the present moment with deep breathing exercises and/or meditations. Tara Brach is a really inspirational person with guided meditations and reflections; look her up please. I wish you a beautiful moments today, Trees.

[Hidden]

This is very true, the time and effort in recovery can only come from yourself, people share their ideas and tips but ultimately if you don't take any of it on board then it's a waste of time, you have to take the steps if you truly want recovery, good luck and hope you can begin your recovery very soon xx

[designguy]

The thing that worked for me with the intrusive thoughts was not resisting them, questioning them or believing them. When I understood what they are, which was that self-protection part of me voicing it's concerns for my safety, I was able to accept them and let them go. I realized they were no longer needed and were a habit and also a delusional way to stay "in control". CBT and thought-stopping techniques did not work for me, they just made the thoughts continue and I would wind up in a mental battle with myself. When I gave up resistance to them and accepted that they are part of the paradox of anxiety, they decreased and lost their power. It took time, practice and commitment but it works.

Suzie and Hearyou are absolutely correct, you are the one who must take the steps, action and commitment to helping and healing yourself. it's no different than if you were a drug addict, you can go through detox, withdrawal, etc... but you would have to make a conscious choice and commitment to stop using, recover and stay well.

Also, if you don't think your therapist is helping you, fire them and find another. But then help yourself first by doing some analysis as to what didn't work with them and what you need from a therapist to make progress before working with another one. As I have said to you before, I think the best therapist is one or a group that specifically treats anxiety disorders. Don't be afraid to interview them and if they don't seem right, interview another. The sooner you accept the fact that you are ultimately responsible for your own mental health and happiness, the quicker your recovery can begin.

[leanne_durkin]

Hi Trees, I've suffered with a thought disorder for years and tried CBT, which works to some extent for me but it's not long before I'm back to the same.. last year I decided enough was enough and tried hypnosis to seek to change the way my subconscious thinks. I was very dubious but so wanted to try it. ( I was ready to try anything to live a normal life) . I have to say I was extremely nervous about going at first but after session 1 I was buzzing with excitement and felt on the rd to recovery. 3 sessions later my fear had gone. It's obviously not free and nothing like they show on TV ( no making a fool of you ) you are in complete control whilst under.. but I have to say it worked for me.. I do have the odd day now( 18m later) where I have a wobble but my hypnotherapist taught me how to self hypnotize and if you have the time to do it helps loads.

Good luck to everyone out there living with a fear, it really is hard !!

[Hidden]

Trees2357 what things or techniques have you tried so far? Xx

[Trees2357 in reply to Hidden]

I do meditation on you tube. Breathing. Therapy. My brother in law told me to try hypnosis.