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Has anyone ever had any success trying the Dr Claire Weekes method for dealing with fear/anxiety:

Facing

Accepting

Floating

Let time pass

It makes so much sense and perfectly describes my situation and how I struggle, but I just can’t put it into practice.

She sounds like an amazing woman, so advanced and ahead of her time

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Sillysausage234 profile image
Sillysausage234

I just ordered it so early days ....step 1 to recovery ...get the book

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JP26 in reply to Sillysausage234

I have the book, it resonates with me a lot i just struggle to put it into practice

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Sillysausage234 in reply to JP26

Yeah I struggle to read books like this ...I’ve had depression anxiety issues for decades...been on all the meds so have just accepted it now I can skip that chapter at least maybe

JP26 profile image
JP26 in reply to Sillysausage234

Sounds like you’ve been through an awful lot, sounds positive that you can at least accept it now, that’s what I’m striving for now but don’t think I’ll ever get there

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Sillysausage234 in reply to JP26

Well best wishes...try louise hay stuff also it’s the same message but more modern approach lots of stuff on you tube enjoyable to watch stuff.I think as claire week is very dated ...good luck you will get there I’m sure.

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Msheatherlady in reply to Sillysausage234

@sillysausage Is there any book from Louise that would you recommend?

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Sillysausage234 in reply to Msheatherlady

I read this one years ago it helped me get over a tough time

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Sillysausage234 in reply to Msheatherlady

youtu.be/NP3a_hWRDro

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Pinkie56 in reply to Sillysausage234

Peronsally I don't care for Louise Hay. But to paraphrase Richard Simmons anything you can stick to will work. So stick to it! Good Luck. We're here.

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Pinkie56 in reply to JP26

Keep at it. Anything worthwhile takes work. This book will do it for you. It should be required reading in schools.

JP26 profile image
JP26

Thanks I appreciate it, I’ll give those a go, thanks

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Sillysausage234 in reply to JP26

You’re welcome

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Msheatherlady

I’m actually reading the book now! I’m working on using it and I’m struggling to put it into practice as well but I’m not finished with the book yet!

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JP26 in reply to Msheatherlady

It’s a great book isn’t it and makes so much sense! I hope it clicks for you and you can achieve success from it, I have highlighted sections and been re-reading them constantly in the hope it can sink in and register with me, I don’t know how to not fight!

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Jeff1943

JP26, I think the answer to your question is that you won't find many people on this forum who have successfully recovered by following Claire Weekes' method - because once you've recovered there's no need to remain on this forum!

Except for a few of us who remain to spread the word to others in the hope that it will do for them what it did for us.

Acceptance, not fighting and floating take lots of practice, to begin with you may only be able to 'glimpse' these things for a few minutes a day. But with perseverance this period extends.

Doctor David Barlow said of Claire Weekes: "By thinking outside the box, and exercising extraordinary clinical sensitivity, the brilliant physician Claire Weekes created a treatment protocol to the unending benefit of tens of millions of patients over the years."

Tens of millions? Barlow is Professor Emeritus of Psychology and Psychiatry at Boston University so is qualified to give an opinion.

Although the 1960s social background she sets her examples against is outdated, as Sillysausage rightly points out, I think her style of writing in which you feel she knows you personally and is talking directly to you by far outweighs the time dimension.

She rejected psychoanalysis which even Freud had to admit towards the end of his life was not producing many successes. More controversially she had little time for what we would call Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.

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LilyAnnepuppy in reply to Jeff1943

Glad you piped in, Jeff. You're our resident Claire Weekes expert and I was hoping for your words of wisdom and support. I've not read Weekes myself, but do not discount any treatment which works for so many people. I'm a big fan of the 12 Steps and could go on about their benefit for hours. Whatever works. Right?

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Jeff1943 in reply to LilyAnnepuppy

Right, LilyAnnepuppy, if it works don't fix it.

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JP26 in reply to Jeff1943

Wow I wasn’t expecting that sort of answer/knowledge but it’s more than I’d hoped I get back in response.

I do try and accept my anxiety/fear but then my mind starts to think about medication, therapy, courses etc and then I beat myself up because by thinking about those things means I’m not accepting. I want so much to accept and float but as I say my mind won’t stop searching for answers and solutions so it just seems impossible that I can ever truly accept so I only ever get as far as step 1 ‘facing’ then fail.

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Jeff1943 in reply to JP26

JP26, there's nothing wrong with putting your faith in medication and therapy, many find respite and recovery through those methods.

But if you want to recover using Weekes' teachings you have to have confidence in her method. Absolute confidence and it has to be utter acceptance (for the time being).

Working on acceptance and floating whilst still hankering after other methods seems like you aren't yet sufficiently convinced by Weekes' method. It would be best to resolve this in your own mind before going further: choose either medications, personal therapy or Weekes' self help method or you fall between three stools.

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Dolphin14 in reply to Jeff1943

Hi Jeff

Can you explain the last sentence regarding PTSD?

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Jeff1943 in reply to Dolphin14

Yes Dolphin14, I believe Claire Weekes didn't believe that present problems of anxiety disorder could be the result of things that happened years before and even in childhood. I don't share that belief, I have come across several people who were mentally damaged in childhood and have a devil of a job coming to terms with it and finding closure in adulthood.

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Dolphin14 in reply to Jeff1943

Jeff, can you read my question below. I think it went to the OP instead of you, sorry.

Thank you for your time I really appreciate it.

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Dolphin14

Hi Jeff

Thank you for the response. Makes sense and I'm happy to hear you understand PTSD.

Is it fair to say then that the Claire Weekes' approach may not help those who were damaged by childhood emotional neglect or abuse? Perhaps they would need alternative or additional therapies in order to overcome the core issue?

Of course my question is not specific to just trauma from childhood, it encompasses any trauma that leads to the debilitating symptoms of PTSD.

Her approach sounds like it revolves more around GAD?

I'm just looking for your thoughts. I'm not challenging you. But, as many years have passed since she studied, there have been more breakthroughs in the psychiatric field. Perhaps she was part of the foundation work and much more has been added to it.

I appreciate your knowledge in the field. That's why I'm always asking you questions. I hope it's not a bother.

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Jeff1943 in reply to Dolphin14

Hi Dolphin, To be honest I'm not competent to answer your question about PTSD as from memory I don't think she dealt with the subject and the only knowledge I have comes from her books. I think her area was Anxiety Disorder and Depression and her teachings were confined to these fields. But I will have a quick scan through her books and if she did have anything to say on this subject I'll get back to you.

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Pinkie56 in reply to Jeff1943

Isn't it strange that when you talk to therapists they don't know who she is?

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Jeff1943 in reply to Pinkie56

You're right, Pinkie, so many don't.

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Jeff1943 in reply to Dolphin14

Hi Dolphin, I did have a look through Weekes' books but there was not references to anything like PTSD that I could find. Sorry about that.

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Dolphin14 in reply to Jeff1943

Jeff:

I appreciate your time. I'm sure there wasn't much research back then.

I'm glad the book works for so many people.

Thanks again for taking the extra time. It was nice of you to do that.

Pat9 profile image
Pat9

she saved my life well her two books did anyway back years ago when I was just 24 I had a breakdown and without her two books I doubt I would be here now, I still have those books in my cupboard they are precious to me as over the time if ever I feel down or anxious I dig them out and reading the words again which mostly I now know by heart soon puts me back on track you cannot go wrong with the advice from Dr Weeks as it is the only method that works work with it and once you have come through using this method you will never get as bad again and will have tools for life xx

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JP26 in reply to Pat9

Thanks Pat that’s very encouraging to hear. Some of her words and descriptions of the symptoms and thought I have are frighteningly accurate. As I previously said I’m just struggling massively with the accepting and therefore the floating which is frustrating me hugely

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Pat9 in reply to JP26

when I got the books I had got to the stage where I couldn't sleep eat read watch TV nothing I was closing down and when I started to read the books she mentions that we will read this as it is about us and she was right, try to take your time read the books a couple of times over if you have to and let her word become familiar to you in time you will get to see all she is saying basically is stop fighting and let time pass it is way easier than trying and trying to fight the feelings as that is what leads to breakdown I do wish you luck as this is the key to getting well again xx

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CatsamazeADAA Volunteer in reply to Pat9

You Hit the nail on the head, Pat9. Trying to fight the feelings has gotten me nothing but suffering. It’s understandable why many of us try to. But it just doesn’t work. It’s like quicksand....the more you wiggle the faster you sink.....

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Pat9 in reply to Catsamaze

Hi there that’s right as fighting adds to the tension in us already which escalates feelings, but letting go relaxes the body and mind so reduces the feelings and allows healing xx

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CatsamazeADAA Volunteer in reply to Pat9

I always want to know why. Why am I feeling this? Why am I feeling that? So often there are no easy answers or no answers at all. The trouble is INSISTING that there are. It’s a rabbit hole. Best to stay out of it......

JP26 profile image
JP26

Thank you that advice and support means so much, it gives me hope and belief that maybe I can do this and get my life back

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Sprinkle1

Hello, I am a big fan of Claire Weeks, I have her book Hope and Help for your nerves, had it 30 years, and like Pat9 I pull it out when I need support. It is not easy to put in practice when you read it the first time. I went back with my Yellow Marker, read it slowly, underlined anything that stood out, went over the writing and practiced, practiced and practiced the lessons. Once you get the hang of it, you will give up the search for answers, learning to let things go. I really like the lessons, and frequently recommend it to people on line that are suffering with anxiety & depression, which are two things that bring me down. I hope my words are of comfort for you. I send you peace of mind, love, strength, courage, big hugs....Sprinkle 1......

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JP26 in reply to Sprinkle1

Hi Sprinkle thank you very much for taking the time to respond. I had thought about getting a highlighter pen and going over the key points for me, I think I will do that now you have said that.

When you say you like the lessons, where are they? I only have the ‘self help for your nerves’ book are the lessons in another book?

Also can you tell me what you practiced if you can I just seem to be stuck not knowing where to start or what to do!

Sorry for asking you prob wish you hadn’t commented now!

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Sprinkle1 in reply to JP26

She says them at the end of each chapter, accept, float and let time pass. She discusses them in each chapter then repeats them several times thru the book.

Read each chapter slowly and mark anything that grabs you with your yellow marker, I also put paperclips on some pages. Just start with one chapter, do not rush reading, you need time to accept it all and let it be absorbed. It takes time to get our ill brain to accept new directions, we did not get sick over night, so we will not get well over night, we need to be patient, keep busy during your day, doing things you like, go for a walk, if you have a close friend, go to lunch this is part of letting time pass. If you need further help, go and talk with a therapist.

I hope this clarifys some points for you. Sending Peace, love/hugs....Sprinkle 1....

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JP26 in reply to Sprinkle1

It does yes thank you, impatience is my problem especially when feeling like this! I’m going to take my time, try again and again and be more patient.

Thanks again for your time, advice and kind words it means so much, thank you.

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propjock

I just recommended Weekes to someone on here, and wanted to see what others were saying. "Hope and Help For Your Nerves" was recommended to me back in the mid-1980s. Her approach was not a cure, but it was helpful. It made sense to me, both as explained and in practice.

I'm interested to hear what others think about this opinion:

Dr. Weekes' approach of accepting, "floating," and letting time pass seems most appropriate for breaking the cycle of acute, recurring panic attacks, specifically the fear of panic attacks or anything that's become associated with them. It is less applicable to generalized anxiety and depression.

I'm not a professional, and have little experience with trauma or complex trauma, so I have no opinion about that.

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Jeff1943 in reply to propjock

I think that floating is helpful in overcoming general anxiety as much as panic attacks. That's my experience anyway. I've only ever had one panic attack but her method helped me overcome general anxiety.

in reply to propjock

I have severe GAD and this book has been the best treatment for me, yet. It works, but you have to want it to work. Panic attacks are something I have experienced on occasion, only, yet I can sincerely see how Dr. Weekes advice on how to cope with them is spot on.

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Pinkie56

I had tremendous success with Dr. Weeks. I highly recommend her to anyone who will listen. She saved my life and gave me back myself. Bless Dr Weeks where ever you are.

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Jeff1943 in reply to Pinkie56

Claire Weekes died 30 years ago at a good age after a lifetime of helping people to recover through personal consultations, lectures, TV, newsletters, radio appearances and the 5 books she published.

The problem is not so much the difficulty in coming to terms with Accept and Float but the difficulty in Letting time pass. We live in an age where we expect instant gratification and Claire Weekes teachings don't offer that. Some think that by just reading her first book brings the knowledge brings an instant cure. If only.

Acceptance is difficult to get your head round in the beginning but with persistence and practice in eventually becomes second nature. As I often say, her method may be hard but nowhere near as hard as putting up with high anxiety and depletion for year after year.

About a year ago I added up all the reviews for all her books on both the U.K. and U.S. versions of Amazon. I found 1,600 reviews that had been added in the past few years and 90% rated her 'Excellent' or 'Very good'. Not bad for someone who passed on 30 years ago!

Her recent biography 'The woman who cracked the anxiety code' does justice to her life. She was awarded an O.B.E. in the Queen's birthday honours and was nominated for a Nobel prize for services to psychiatry.

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Pinkie56

When something is true & right it is timeless. How long since Jesus died? Buddha? Mohammed? I am glad she was recognized by the Queen. As far as Nobel is concerned they lost my respect when they awarded Obama before he even took office.

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