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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
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Hi all I been suffering with low mood maybe depression not sure and anxiety since March it’s a lot better than it was when it started I’m trying to deal with it on my own. But I have not slept properly for a while, I had a nose problem what would keep me awake at night I have had surgery in may and is better now not as bad as it was. But now I have insomnia I can go bed at 9.30 wake up at 1,3,4,5,6 like last night but mostly all ways wake up at 3am every night. I have tried going bed later and I still wake up. I don’t drink alcohol I have given up since starting to not feel myself. Has anyone got any suggestions or cures that could help me please or maybe antidepressants that help u sleep. Thank you in advance xx

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Spf1875

If you find a cure can you please let me know. I haven't slept properly since Friday night. Wake up in a panic and then can't get back to sleep

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Kirsty8729

Awful isn’t it. Feel so drained.i have tried magnesium, breathing techniques, hot milk, herbal tablets make me feel hungover, cbd oil. Nothing works. I can get to sleep it’s staying asleep. X

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

It's a nightmare honestly. I always wake up in a panic aswell and can't seem to shift it. Is that the same for you?

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Ah bless you. No no panic thank god. At first when I had anxiety I would wake up first thing panicy. Are you taking any medication? I just tend to wake up and toss and get back of to sleep then wake up again a hour later it’s annoying. My mum is the same xx

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Yeah I just started to take citalopram again. Came off them a little premature but I've been feel crappy for a few weeks so decided to go back on them which maybe why I am like I am now.

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Could be the reason why. How are you on them have you had any side effects I’m to scared to take anything

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Erm shakes, sweating, palpitations no appetite, nausea. You name it lol. Do you not take any medication?

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Oh dear 😑. No nothing. When I first got anxiety I took one sertraline tablet and ended up in a&e on 2 drips and a ecg machine. Had a reaction to it. I’m put of now. I did try amitriptyline as that’s what my mum takes. I took it at night knocked me out next Day felt hungover no other effects though and I did sleep.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Yeah i started on them but they kept me awake so the doctors recommended taking citalopram and tbhthey did start to work but like I say I just completely stopped taking them which you shouldn't do

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Why did u stop taking them? how long was you on them before u did stop? Poor u so now you have to work through the start up again. I am taking St. John’s wort been on it 2 weeks my head does seem a little clearer. I ordered some cherry juice they say that’s hood for sleep, worth ago lol.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

I was on them for arou d about 6 months and was feeling great.. yup unfortunately!! What is John worts? Lol

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

St. John’s wort is a herb for low mood and anxiety, Kira brand I am taking. Maybe it’s the withdrawal and then back on them your body and mind is confused. Well hopefully you will start to feel better soon and they kick in. X

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Are they any good? And yeah I think that's what it is, just a pain that you have to go through this to feel better

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Hard to tell at the moment I think they are taking the edge off. Don’t take them with antidepressants though as it does the same as them they raise serotonin and if u take to much can get serotonin syndrome. It is, I wish I could be the sort of person the says oh well f**k it I not give a shit about stuff. I used to be that sort of person a few years ago, I was very head strong. But now I let things get to me easily.....

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Yeah I think I may try CBD oil see what that is like :).. Yeah exactly the same!! It's crazy trying to find the root of the problem. So many things just going around and around

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

I got it. It does relax you I got the 5% one got it of amazon. I might take it tonight. It’s really expensive though x

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Is if worth it tho if chills you out?

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Yeah I would say so. Give it a try. Holland and Barrett do it.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Would you recommend the 5% one?

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

I started on the lower one from Holland and Barrett what was good but got the higher 5% grade the second time as thought stronger would be better the higher the grade the more expensive it is. Try the lower one at first see how you go. X

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Yeah I'm gonna go and see if I can find a Holland and Barrett. Willing to try anything right now lol

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Lol or could always try a joint 😂. I got that cherry stuff today it arrived earlier so I’ll try that tonight I’ll let you know if I sleep tonight x

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Kirsty8729

Just read coconut oil is good a spoon before bed as stabilises blood sugar. So for people waking between 2-4 they say it could be because your blood sugar is low.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

That would make sense as I haven't eaten properly since Sunday afternoon...

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Ah really try almonds and hot milk it is supposed to work.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Haven't had an appetite at all.. just constantly feel sick.. what about almond milk?

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Yes that’s even better. That’s the anxiety as well no doubt. That’s how I get. I lost 2 stone when I first got anxiety I’m still the same weight.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Yeah my weight has fluctuated a lot recently.. up and down just like my mood I guess 😔

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Not good is it. I’m gonna cook the boys there dinner now. I’ll message you tomorrow let you know how the cherry stuff goes. X night god bless.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Okay take care. Hope all goes well. If you can't sleep you know where I am :)

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

👍🏻😊

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Kirsty8729

Forgot to say try phenergan it’s a antihistamine. Doctor prescribed it for me for sleep. I only take half a tablet, it makes me feel groggy next day. You can get it over the counter. You could try that. My residents are prescribed it daily for a calmer.... it might work for you. X

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Can you drive with them?

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Yeah but wouldn’t suggest doing the first few times taking them as make you sleepy. My friend was prescribed them for anxiety in the day time when she was pregnant

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Hmm see I have to drive like 15 mile to work so may try them on the weekend when I don't have to drive

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Yeah I would try them in the afternoon late evening see how sleepy you feel at least they will relax you

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Thanks :) will do. If I remember the name lol how you feeling now?

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Little sleepy. Fingers crossed I sleep and you. Don’t help when you got noisy neighbours.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Tell them to stfu lol people have insomnia round here

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Lol they was hoovering above my bedroom at 10 last night then again at 1 in morning and again this morning at 11. They are on drugs I’m sure of it. The child is about 2 and runs about till 1 in morning. They are tossers lol.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Sounds like they're a little OCD lol dunno about the drugs. People like that do my head in tho the no consideration for anyone

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

I can smell weed all the time. They smoke it out the window. Prop doing other stuff keeping them awake all night. Drives me nuts they come alive at 10pm start banging and that. It’s a older mum with 2 older sons one of there girlfriends and there baby. None of them work.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Alright for some ain't I! Living the life of Riley whilst us sufferers have to work

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Yeah isn’t it just. I bet half of them shouldn’t even be living there. I’ll get my broom out tonight and bang the ceiling 😂

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

They probably too stoned to hear it tbf.. should just blast your music really loud in the mornings

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

😂 I do that sometimes then you can hear them walking around after. I’m like yes I got you up hahaha then they get me back again 🤬.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

So not the best thing to do then? 😂 suppose they'd still do whatever they do even if you didn't do that. Inconsiderate b*******

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

No but does make me feel good for a bit 😂.... Yes exactly how they are you would think a heard of elephants live up there lol.

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Night speak to you soon.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

😂😂 that's what they probably think they are after taking all them drugs lol and okay night.

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Yeah wearing bright pink big fluffy slippers 😂😂

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

I wear bright pink fluffy slippers.. nothing wrong with that 😂

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

😂........ well update I slept awful again. Woke up about 5 times in the night.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Same here. Went to sleep at half 11 woke at 1 then 2 then 2.45 and then 4 and 5 and finally woke at 6 lol.. brilliant start to the day

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Oh dear isn’t it dreadful. I’m at work like a zombie. I turned my alarm of thinking that I done it to early for school run, then it clicked I got work.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

I've been off work for this week. Really couldn't face going in. Thankfully my boss understands the situation as his wife also suffers with anxiety

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Well that’s really good then. Mine do not understand. Mine kept badgering me when I was off even though I had sick note I was off for 2 months. Been back since may it’s been hard sometimes I work with the elderly so you have to put a brave face on.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

That's ridiculous. They make it sound like we choose to have this disorder 🙄

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

I know it’s hard unless you got it no one understands.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

That's why I hardly ever tell anyone tbh. It's hard to explain to someone who doesn't go through it

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Exactly they think your talking rubbish x

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Manage to get through work ok?

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Yes thank you makes it worse when you have to work with lazy people lol. I come back and bought my son 2 rats for pets. He’s over the moan.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Actual rats??!

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Lol yep pet rats. I actually have a dislike to them ever since I was bitten by a mouse as a child. But the lady got them out and they was really playful and cute. I read up on them they are very clever and cuddly. They are light grey and white. My brother had 2 albino ones as a child called pinky and brain lol do you remember the carton?

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Can't stand rats. Even pet ones remind me of actual wild rats ugh! Make my skin crawl lol and yeah that was years ago! Haha

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Lol I am the same. Will make me get over the fear lol... we are in a flat so can not have cat or dog or I would have one of them lol

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

I couldn't bringmyself to getting one lol I've got a dog and she's a pain in the back side

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

lol I would love a dog. Don’t this morning my son wanted to get one out to hold it. It made my nurves bad I didn’t want to pick it up took me 3 attempts. I did it though lol. I should of got a lizard or something x

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Ugh no. Are they baby ones or fully grown?

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

They just fit in my hands they are 8 weeks old.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
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What do they eat?

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Pellets and anything we eat

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Ooo nah rather you than me lol did you get sleep last night?

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Gonna take me a while to get used to it.... I slept better than the last to nights. How did you sleep.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

That's good and not really. Went to sleep at half 11 and was awake at 2 til 5 and then got up at 7.

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Oh no what do you do when you wake up.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Either play on PlayStation or on my phone lol it's crazy

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Oh lol that’s probably the worst thing you could do the blue light wakes you up more. Do u like reading they say that’s best. I don’t like reading. I just lay there till I go back off I know if I get out of bed I have had it and won’t get back to sleep.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Nah hate reading lol I haven't got the attention span for it and I can't just lay there until I fall to sleep cos my mind goes into overdrive and I start thinking about how big the moon is or something stupid lol

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Or cows jumping over it lol. Did u get any phenegran. Are u in the uk

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Or if dogs can look up lol and nah haven't been out and I am

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Get some online

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

From where?

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Amazon eBay boots if in the uk

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

I looked online and couldn't find anything

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Are u in the uk.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Yeah I am

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Oh right you should be able to find it online. Are you ok?

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

I'll have a proper look later.. and yeah I'm fine. Been a hectic weekend lol you?

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Good. Yeah not bad weekend off so just chilled with the family.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Sleeping any better?

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

No are you?

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Meh a little bit. Slept straight through Saturday night and woke up a few times last night but back at work today so struggling to stay awake

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Bless ya. Hopefully you’ll be tired from today’s work and have a good night sleep. What do you do for work?

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

I thoughtthat after decorating and stuff the weekend lol and work in IT. With computers and that

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Oh that’s gonna be hard to concentrate if you are tired. Was that sat when you slept lol.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Tell me about it :( and yeah! Funnily enough lol me and the missus moved the whole front room around

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Lol did you makes ya feel better for doing that sitting in a clean room. I am all ways turning the room around my other half thinks I’m mad lol. I have just moved hall way around to fit the small rats in there lol.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Think women are mad when it comes to the design of rooms lol this Is the 3rd time we've moved it around in a year and half 😂

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Lol yep we are all mad. I am all ways doing it or painting lol

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Dunno why you all can't just relax and sit in a s******* lol

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

I can’t look at it until it’s clean then I can relax lol. Relaxing now watching a film

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

I just blank it out lol you not working todat

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

No off now for few days. Oh no I can’t do that lol I won’t do it now for a few days.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Alright for some!! And yeah I ain't decorating anything again now. Moving settees around, no thanks lol

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Yeah I work weekends so I’m in at end of the week. Just think you got to put all xmas decorations up soon lol

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Ah fair enough. What is it you do? And I know!! I'm dreading that especially with a toddler and a dog this year!!

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Haha put all the baubles at the top.... ah best when there that age though, my son is 7 so shouldn’t imagine he will believe for much longer. I’m health care assistant for the elderly.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Thinking of getting an upside Xmas tree.. one that you hang from the ceiling lol

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Lol why 😂

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

So the dog or the little one can't attack it 😂 really can't be dealing with redoing it every day

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Haha good idea 😂

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

You can actually get them now aswell.. I'm sure of it

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Yeah you can I have seen them and half trees that go flat on the wall lol

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Don't think the missus will let me have one tho :(

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Lol prob not, if she’s like me she’s very particular about Xmas decorations lol.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Oh yes. She's very festive! Lol

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

I can’t stand it. I hate winter lol.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

I love winter! Cosy night's in.. hot chocolate.. Xmas films. Amazing! Did you sleep okay?

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

I’m a summer girl. No had awful night I put the rat cage in hall way and kept me up all night. I kept thinking they was gonna get out and get me lol. Bloody things what was I thinking things we do for our kids hey lol.

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

How did u sleep

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Yeah I enjoy summer too, just sometimes get irritated by the heat lol.. oh thats terrible, should of just got a dog instead haha and yeah I had a decent sleep, just trying to catch up from last week

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

That’s brill then. I love it hotter the better. Well we are in a flat. Wish I got a cat now lol or a lizard or something like that.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Nah I get easily irritated in the heat lol no fun for anyone!! I wanted a bearded dragon but there effort

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

They are cool my mate had one growing up. No more effort than these rats. U have to spot clean daily. They constantly poo I ain’t joking lol.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Yeah I used to look after them at college, many moons ago lol I love them but ain't got time to be cleaning them out and all that

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

It is long. I’ll be busy for 3 years now 🙄.....

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Is that with the pet or the child? Lol

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Pets. My boys no trouble at all such a good boy.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

You just got the rats?

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Yes and a fish the other one died last week

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Oh we had a fish that I won from a fair. Bought a tank and everything and the thing died in a week haha

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Oh no I thought that was illegal lol

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

It should be 😂 made me spend all that money to then just die

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Lol..... I got Dutch courage I went out for a meal and drunk far to much red wine. I just got in and I got the rat out out lol. I’m so proud 😂 I didn’t flinch lol x

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

😂😂 did it make you sleep any better?! And yeah that was down to the alcohol, nothing else 😂

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Yeah little man went to his nans. So no school run. I only woke up 3 times and just got up because post women it’s 10am feel very hungover though

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Well now you know the answer.. drink loads!! Haha

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

I took a whole sleeping pill with it. I have been cutting them in half cos they make me feel groggy next day.... wine normally keeps me awake. But the 2 together works lol. Plus the layin helped. Would of slept for longer if I didn’t get woken up.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Didn't think you could drink and take sleeping tablets? Lol who woke ya up?

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Ya shouldn’t but it’s technically not a sleeping tablet it’s a antihistamine. Post women lol.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

If it helps, then why not lol and oh.. I thought it was a typo and you meant loose women 😂

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Lol no she rang the buzzer and made me jump out my skin I was gonna ignore it but she kept buzzing lol....

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Must of been something Important then lol

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

No she’s just very persistent lol.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

She needs to get them deliveries out for Xmas lol

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Lol she held that finger down on that buzzer. It’s so loud I hate it lol.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

I had to remove my door bell because of that. They always make them with the most stupid sounds aswell

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Lol I can’t remove mine it’s a buzzer system.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Think you should be able to customise them to make them sound like it's Xmas

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Haha no way lol.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Such a scrooge lol

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Lol I only started liking it when I had my boy.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Yeah same. Only reason why i dislike it is cos I'm usually ill so it just makes it shit

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

I’ll?? Why with anxiety? I worked last Xmas day I got this one of so gonna make the most of it how ever rubbish I feel.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Probably is a bit of anxiety but just usually all bunged up and stuff so it's never usually fun. As if you work Xmas day, wow

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Yeah joys of care work it sucks. I got Boxing Day and new year this year yayyyyy lol

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

You working boxing day and new year?

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Yeah both morning thou so that ok I prefer that

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Nah forget that. Don't even get a lie in

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

I hate working evenings.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
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I think working over Xmas should be illegal

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Yeah it should lol

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Do you get extra pay?

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Yeah time and half on xday and new year day and time and quarter Boxing Day and New Year’s Eve all other days normal pay

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Well that's not too bad then. Makes working even better when ya get paid more for the same work lol

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Yeah it does lol. Still don’t want to work it thou lol.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

How long you been doing it for?

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

About 13 years since I was 18. How you been? I ordered melatonin last night of eBay I’m gonna give that a shot.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

Oh wow.. I'm doing good. Better than last week!! Still fell overly tired tho. What's melatonin for?

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

It’s a sleeping hormone. Google up on it. It’s worth a try. Glad your doing better. How’s the tablets working? Any side effects?

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

They seem to be kicking in now, still a little anxious at times and no not really.. just tiredness but I don't think that's a side effect that's just me lol

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

That’s good how long have you been on them now.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

This is my 2nd week just trying to get back into the habit of taking them again because if I take them too early I end up falling asleep at work lol

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

What time do you take them then. X

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

I have to take them off an evening but it's hard to remember to take them lol

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

Put a reminder on your phone lol. Funny how can make some people sleepy and some people the opposite. Citalapram your taking right!

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

I forget to do that too! Haha my memory is awful and I know! When I was on sertraline the doctor said it should make you sleep but it had the opposite effect lol

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

No helping you then lol 😂......

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Spf1875
Spf1875
in reply to Kirsty8729

No 😂 I'm a lost soul haha

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
in reply to Spf1875

😂 ya poor misses lol.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
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Yeah. She's a saint for dealing with me 😂

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
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😂

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maggief9812

I used to have upstairs neighbors that vacuumed 3-4 times a day, every day. I worked nights and needed to sleep during this time. MAJOR irritation! They had a dog they’d let outside, but they didn’t believe in flea medication so they vacuumed constantly to try & keep the flea situation under control. It was not good.

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Spf1875
Spf1875
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Sounds like an absolute nightmare

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maggief9812
maggief9812
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It’s almost worse that I actually really liked these neighbors and can respect that they didn’t want to put drugs on their dog... every now and then you hear these horror stories about a pet that had a bad reaction- it’s scary and we love our pets. That said, I wanted to scream at them when I couldn’t sleep!

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Kirsty8729

Oh my.... sounds like they are not your neighbours now thank heavens. Some people honestly. Did you ever say anything to them.

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newcomit6

try seroxat 20 mg

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newcomit6
newcomit6
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will let you eat and sleep

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Kirsty8729

Ok thank you.

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Kirsty8729

Just looked up that’s a antidepressant are you taking that

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newcomit6

yes

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newcomit6
newcomit6
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welcome Kirsty

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faulhallen

One of the first things my doctor told me back in high school when I finally asked for help (about 17 years ago), was that even the most normal and healthy person can show all the signs of major depression. All you have to do is wait until they get far enough into sleeping that they’re about to get actual rest and wake them up. Repeat that over and over again long enough and you have an otherwise healthy person that looks and acts like some of the worst depression cases.

I don’t know if that’s been disproven but I can’t imagine it is because my depression is always a thousand times worse if I’m not sleeping well (like today).

Anxiety and depression go hand in hand a lot of times and can either cause or make the other worse. I can’t speak for that part in terms of sleeping.

Trazedone is an “antidepressant” that is my understanding burns out of the body too quickly to be much use but helps people fall asleep and helps in terms of that. I have mixed feelings about Ambien because I never get 8 hours of sleep regularly at the best of times. People have good luck with melatonin and it’s otc but it makes me groggy the next morning and doesn’t seem to help me much.

If you’re suffering from symptoms of depression it’ll be hard to find motivation but taking better care of yourself is supposed to help as well. Exercise, yoga, meditation, and a better diet including cutting out some of the sugar and caffeine can help as well.

If I think of anything else I’ll let you know but one final suggestion would’ve that if you think it’s going to happen you’re probably more likely for it to happen. Our brains are amazing things when it comes to causing some of our own problems. It’s easier said than done but it’s a thought. Instead of allowing your mind to race have you considered the sleep meditation/“hypnosis” videos-audio that are on the Internet? There are hundreds and might help you get out of your own head and just relax. Just make sure autoplay is off, that you’re connected to WiFi if you don’t have unlimited data, and try and relax.

I hope you find something that works. Best of luck! 🙂

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Kirsty8729

Thank you for your reply. Yes I do think the low mood what I actually think is a form of depression and the anxiety is the cause of it. I am all ways stuck in my head. I am a over thinker. I did try the videos for anxiety when I first got the anxiety when was really bad. I think cos I don’t get sleep I’m down. I will try some videos again. Thank you xxx

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Kirsty8729

Gave me a funny head first few times then I got used to it.

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BlueBelle06

early morning awakening is a common symptom of depression so I would look into that further if it continues. I hope you feel better soon

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Kirsty8729

Thanks yes it probably is the cause.

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maggief9812

Faulhallen covered a lot so I will try not to add too too much. I’ve struggled with insomnia since I was a child. I’m sure the environment I grew up in has a lot to do with it, but we won’t get into that long story now. ;)

First, and it might be a silly question, but have you thoroughly researched good sleep hygiene? Our habits can go a long way to help optimize our ability to fall asleep.

Ambien can be useful, but it only ever keeps me down for 4 hours when taken as prescribed. I’ve had good success on days I have high anxiety (and I know my sleep will be bad because of it) by taking a half dose at bedtime and setting an alarm for 2.5 to 3 hours later to wake up and take the second half of the dose. The first half is still in my system and it’s easy to fall back asleep right away. By the time the first half wears off, the second half has had time to hit my system. This has been my cheap work-around to not being able to afford the continuous release Ambien, which costs me 10x as much. Because I’m splitting my 5mg dose in half: 2.5 at bedtime and 2.5 a few hours later, I’m not taking extra medication and I don’t wake up with that groggy overmedicated feeling. Also, I take the second half with at least 5 hours of sleep time ahead of me so I won’t be fighting the drug when it’s time to wake up.

From your other posts in this thread, I’m gathering you either: don’t have insurance or don’t like taking medications? Just a guess because you talk a lot about home remedies/herbs rather than medications? Not a criticism here, just trying to tailor my response to your concerns! If you prefer to go the no-drug route for your sleep, some people like melatonin because it’s a hormone your body already produces. If you can find a extended release version that can be helpful for multiple wake-ups. One thing my doc told me about melatonin is that it is Most effective if you take it at the same time every single night to “train” your body that it’s bedtime. Taking it at different times or only occasionally just confuses your body’s circadian rhythm.

The last thing I want to ask is, do you think anxiety is a trigger for your insomnia? It’s very common that the two are related. Taking steps to try and manage your anxiety might be the most helpful thing you can do when you’re having a bad bout of insomnia. I recently had a stretch where I was only getting about 2 hours of sleep a day for about 2 weeks straight. I KNOW my insomnia is anxiety triggered and it took me that long to realize I needed to talk to my husband about my fears if I was ever going to sleep again. A sleep deprived brain can be a little slow on the uptake. ;) After we thoroughly discussed what was going on with me and made a plan to deal with it, I had the best sleep I’d had in weeks.

I still struggle with recurring bouts of insomnia on a regular basis, but my ability to sleep is the best it’s ever been. I combine a nightly relaxing bedtime routine, low-dose melatonin taken at the same time every night, and sleeping in a cool, dark room (separate from my understanding husband) with a noise machine. When I sleep away from home, or it’s especially noisy, I listen to a white-noise track on wireless earbuds. I only ever take the Ambien if my anxiety is high. I’m consistent in these habits and I’ve got good control over my sleep at this point.

I hope some of this was helpful. :)

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Kirsty8729

Hi I think it’s all steamed from having a bad nose for years, but now that’s sorted I have got the anxiety and feeling low i think thats is a contribute to it. I am managing it on my own, I am in the uk and pay for prescription. I had a reaction to sertraline so scared to take anything else. Doctor prescribed me phenegran for sleeping. Makes me feel groggy. Where do you get the ambien from? X

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maggief9812

In in the US- Ambien is the brand name. Maybe you have it under a different brand? It’s generic name is Zolpidem tartrate

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Kirsty8729

Is it over the counter or prescribed

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maggief9812

Prescribed in the US, I don’t know about the UK?

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Kirsty8729

Is it like diazepam?

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maggief9812

Not really- diazepam is good for anxiety, muscle spasms, and can help you sleep. Zolpidem is just for sleep and is a different type of med.

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Kirsty8729

Ok I’ll ask my doctor

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Kirsty8729

Thank you

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maggief9812

Hopefully that’s something he can help you with. Just knowing I have something that is consistently effective available helps me to be able to sleep, even when I don’t take it. It saves me from obsessing about whether or not I *can* fall asleep.

One of the common side effects your doc will probably mention is vivid dreams, but I honestly kind of enjoy that aspect of it. The fine print mentions other crazy side effects like doing things while you’re sleeping (sleep-walking, eating, etc) but those side effects are rare. Combining it with alcohol increases the risk for sleep-activities. All that said, I used to sleep walk before I ever took Ambien and I never have sleep-walked once while on it. And I’ve been taking it occasionally during insomnia bouts for almost a decade now.

Definitely talk to your doc about any concerns specific to you that you might have and if he thinks it would help. :)

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Kirsty8729

I have very vivid dreams as it is I think that’s half the reason why I wake up and then I fall back into the same dream

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Calm_mama

Hi Kirsty! I just responded to someone else on insomnia, I'm copying/pasting my response here- I hope it helps!

First, cast away any notions you have about sleeplessness. They are all false. Seriously, anything you've read or heard from people about how "not getting enough sleep is harmful", and "lack of sleep can lead to worsening mental health issues", "It raises cortisol levels which can lead to problems" etc etc... it's all complete bunk. Start looking at it this way:

- In times of great stress, people go for days without sleeping (ie wartime, catastrophes) and the body is meant to handle that as part of life

- I works in healthcare and we often go for days without sleeping- on call, back to back shifts, no one shows up so you do a double, etc...

-New moms (and dads!) hardly sleep at all. They are up all night with crying babies, feeding every 2-3 hours, etc

- Sleeplessness is common, harmless, nothing whatsoever to be concerned about.

Insomnia can result from several things- chronic pain, prostate problems in men (and thus peeing all night), etc but anxiety based insomnia is the most common type. You seem to have anxiety based insomnia. Which responds to..... ignoring it and turning it into a big nothing in your mind. Then you'll start sleeping better. But you won't care, because you will have completely changed your attitude towards sleep.

I sleep very well these days- only 5-6 hours a night but that's because I'm too busy to sleep more. I'm fine. When I have something bothering me I might have a bout of insomnia, but it's mild and I don't care. I get up and do things. When my daughter has occasional insomnia, we get up together and use that time to do fun things- bake, draw, plan a trip, write cards, etc.

Do sleep hygiene (see link below) but don't expect it to work miracles. It all helps, but "NOTHING" works. That's a GOOD thing. Turning it into a great big nothing actually WORKS. Here's a sleep hygiene link:

ucdenver.edu/academics/coll...

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Kirsty8729

I understand what your saying but when your exhausted all day I feel anxious. I need sleep I feel awful all day if I don’t sleep properly.

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newcomit6

you have nightmares

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newcomit6

i am here to help you

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newcomit6

you need medicine help you get comfort and sleep well

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Kirsty8729

Hi thank you. any medicine you suggest! No nightmares. But very vivid dreams all ways have.

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newcomit6

i will check medicine can help you

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newcomit6

sertraline (Zoloft)

fluoxetine (Prozac, Sarafem)

citalopram (Celexa)

escitalopram (Lexapro)

paroxetine (Paxil, Pexeva, Brisdelle)

fluvoxamine (Luvox)

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Kirsty8729

Anything apart from a antidepressant.

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Kirsty8729

How you been?

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viiexplorer

Had a worst case of insomnia, nothing over the counter worked for me. After 2 sleepless nights, I was desperate to try anything and went to get acupuncture (thinking this was a complete waste of money and time). Slept like a baby that night. I hope everything goes well for you, because insomnia is no fun in both the short or long term.

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Kirsty8729

Thank you that’s good to know. That’s expensive. Did u sleep after that night or back to insomnia.

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viiexplorer

I slept after that night and strangely had no problem since. I was so grateful for the treatment, and yes, it maybe a bit expensive, but I believe insurance will cover majority of visit.

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Kirsty8729

That’s good then. I’m in uk it’s not free to us. We have to pay and it’s expensive.

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Moonyy

I am afraid of falling asleep and having dreams

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Kirsty8729
Kirsty8729
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Really wow why

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Hi oh no poor you that must be awful few years of not sleeping is killing me. I do all of that I am very good even have ear plugs and eye mask. Thank you for commenting x

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