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Interesting article about controlling AFib without drugs

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My wife's functional medicine MD suggested that I might benefit from this article from 2013. I am pretty much doing what the article recommends and have now closing in on 1 year AFib free, which to me is a miracle considering I have had episodes since 1986! I am going to tweak my vitamin intake based on this.

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jeanjeannie50

I enjoyed reading this article written in 2013, it confirms a lot of things that can cause AF that we've only just started to talk about. Plus it's worked for you, thank you for sharing!

Jean

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Jalia

Thank you for posting this. I'm sure many will find it very helpful.

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higgy52

Very interesting, but if i stopped blood thinners and followed the diet would i have a stroke..

is it worth the risk

in reply to higgy52

My cardiologist admitted that a stroke caused by a brain bleed because of blood thinners would be worse than one caused by a clot. The clot can be easily dissolved with TPA if treated quickly. With a brain bleed they may have to open your skull.

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Padayn01

The low carb diet do you cut out all carbs altogether? None at all?

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Padayn01 in reply to Padayn01

Where do you get that fish oil from

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Not sure where you are located. In the US there are multiple manufacturers that offer high DHA fish oil. I use the Vital Nutrients brand.

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Is this the one?

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In our household we are on keto, which means we make every effort to keep the total number of carbs for the day between 20 and 30 grams.

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Kaz747

Interesting. I take magnesium, CoQ10, fish Oil and B group Vitamins. I eat well and low carb (most of the time) and make sure I get plenty of sleep.

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Shcldavies

Thank you, very interesting.

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secondtry

Thanks Mollybear, I think we should all go to a Functional medicine MD and a regular doctor/hospital for emergencies.

Barbara, so if I understand you correctly, you take no meds, no stimulents and follow a near starvation diet? Does exercise have a place and are you eating animal products? Very interested in your protocol. It does sound very tough to follow especially at this time of year.

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absolutepatsy

Thank you for posting this link, very interesting reading.

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bantam12

I weigh 61kg, never been above 65kg yet have many health problems so weight and weight reduction is clearly not the cause and cure for everyone.

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chenstone18

Bery helpful, thank you for sharing.

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fairgo45

That was absolutely fascinating thank you for posting it I'm going to give it a try

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Staffsgirl

How does all this affect your fibromyalgia?

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Auriculaire

You will get very few interested in such a philosophy here in France where eating well is almost a religion and the pleasures of the table taken very seriously indeed. Especially at this time of year! Judging from the proliferation of indigestion and constipation remedy ads on the tv disturbed guts are considered a price worth paying. Funnily enough until recently obesity rates here have been way below those of the UK and the US.

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Auriculaire

Interesting article. I do not think he is right about NOACS disturbing vit K metabolism. I understood that they work on a different part f the clotting system.

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Coco51 in reply to Auriculaire

NOACs and Warfarin do act on different clotting mechanisms.

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Auriculaire

I think the increase in obesity here has more to do with the ever increasing proportions of manufactured food on supermarket shelves coupled with less exercise. When I first came to France for holidays over 30 years ago it was extremely rare to see overweight children and young adults. Even true obesity in older women rather than post menopausal stoutness was not that common. Unlike in the UK where the obesity epidemic was well under way. But people mainly stuck to traditional patterns of eating even if overeating on special occasions was de rigeur.

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Auriculaire

If the food has no nutrients then the body will demand more . Portions in restaurants here have actually diminished. Certainly 400 gms of meat is an enormous amount to eat at once.

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Coco51

If you take vitamin K with Warfarin, which is a vitamin K inhibitor, wouldn't that counteract the anticoagulant effect of the drug?

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Auriculaire in reply to Coco51

I have seen stuff recommending this. You then match the Warfarin to the vit k supplement and because this is a lot more than the various amounts in fruit and veg you are more stable. I have seen reports from people who do this and say it works. It is supposed to be K1 that acts on clotting and K2 that you take so i am not sure of the logic. When first diagnosed with afib and put on a vit k antagonist I asked the hospital doctor if this would result in greater calcification of arteries due to K2 being affected as well. He looked bewildered. He obviously had no idea that there was more than one type of vit K and what their respective roles were . When are they going to start training doctors properly in how our bodies respond to the food we eat? Or for that matter the side effects of the drugs they dish out. Better training in pharmacology and nutrition would improve medicine a lot.

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