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I had a cryo abulation last Monday, I do think my Afib is back. My bp monitor shows a little wiggle heart ❤️, not a normal one. Plus my heart is not like it was yesterday. I feel it pounding again.

My Dr. told me that it might take 3 months to tell if the procedure was successful. If not I would need to have the procedure done again. But he was so happy the way the procedure had gone. He said that the Afib stopped as they were doing it. That he had also continued with four corners

I waited a month before and I am praying that I don't get feeling the way I did before the procedure.

Maybe will the Afib will return to the way it was last Tuesday on it's own?

I am really depressed!!!

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BobD profile image
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Please don't be down. We have explained that it will take months for the heart to heal and these things will happen. It does not mean it hasn't worked. Rest and more rest please .

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Myheart101 in reply to BobD

Hi, BobD, My dr. Told me that also. Only since it had gone well that maybe it was gone the first time.🙃 I panicked and started thinking "oh no, I'm going to have the same feeling as before. I will try and calm myself.

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AP224

I was convinced my Ablation had not worked after I had it done in August. I had been symptom free for weeks before the procedure due to the meds. After the procedure I had a few episodes and I have been sensitive to every ectopic occurrence since. I stopped taking my beta blockers 2 weeks ago and have returned to the gym. So far, and I accept it is early days, I have not had an AF episode and the frequency of ectopics seem to be reducing.

Don't despair... as others have said it will take a while. Ablation is a big thing and it will take a few months for your heart to settle down. Best of luck!!

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Myheart101 in reply to AP224

Thank you, I hope that's what will happen!

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Gowers in reply to Myheart101

Agree with what others have said. I had a very bad bout of af the morning after ablation & had to have cardioversion later in the day. Like you I was feeling pretty down about it & had a few bursts of fast heart rate & af since. But the advice sheet & the advice of folk like Bob helped because it makes you realise recovery for some of us is slower than others & ablation is not an instant cure. Just take a day at a time & try to rest when you can (not easy I know) do let us know how your recovery goes

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Myheart101 in reply to Gowers

Hi Gowers, thank you for advise, I'm taking it too!

Everything, you said makes sense to me. I'm gonna take it slow and hopefully I will be happy 😊 before my Dr. appointment. I haven't heard anything from my Dr. by the way. Guess I should just chill out.

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GeneralLee

Hi, sorry for my bad English first, I'm from Tyrol so my native language is German.

I had cryo ablation in May and only now, after six months, I can say that I feel somehow healed. As Bob says, it takes time. Give it time to heal, to settle down, to calm. I had one episode after two months, then some days with ectopic beats, many days with nothing.

Now I feel ok but still sometimes the one or other ectopic sneakes in.

Don't worry!! Everything will be ok. Just give it time!

Oh, I'm male, 51 years old, PAF for 3 years before ablation.

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Myheart101 in reply to GeneralLee

Thank you GeneralLee, What I need to do is go back and read more about it. I am really a lot calmer today!

Please read this factsheet and stop worrying, what you are experiencing is not unusual.....unnecessary but understandable anxiety at this time is not good!

heartrhythmalliance.org/res...

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Myheart101 in reply to

Hi Flap Jack, I thank you for your help.I am going to go and read it now. There are a few of terms that I don't understand. Hope I find that information there.

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Myheart101 in reply to

Me again, I just read that article from the link you shared. It was GREAT. Helped me to understand what I had gone through and going through. Plus I learned what some of the words mean that I didn't know before. Thanks again for your help. I will calm down and chill out for sure. Plus stop driving my family and friends nuts. LOL!

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After my ablation I had 2 solid weeks of Afib and yet my ablation has been successful for the 4+ years since. Your heart is reacting to the inflammation from the procedure. The healing period is 3-6 months. Take good care of yourself and your heart as you recover gently . The recovery time is as important as the ablation itself. Wishing. you success.

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estrennen

Are you certain you are having AF? I had constant arrhythmias for 4 weeks after my ablation procedure, but they were PVCs. To me it felt quite similar to AF. The only way to really know is analyzing an ECG. For peace of mind, you should consider a Kardia device, worth every penny. As others have said, the inflammation from the procedure does a number on your heart and need to wait at least 3 months before assessing success of the procedure. Best of luck to you.

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Myheart101 in reply to estrennen

Hi estrennen, well I'm not sure. I was using a blood pressure cuff that has a irregular pulse wave. What's a Kardia device?

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estrennen in reply to Myheart101

Kardia is a device that connects to your smart phone and allows you to do electrocardiograms (ECGs), just like you would do at a clinic or hospital. You need to spend a little time learning how to read and analyze the waveforms, but it's not difficult. In the US, they cost $100.

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Myheart101 in reply to estrennen

Ok,that sounds good. I'm in the USA too! Can you tell me where to look for that?

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estrennen in reply to Myheart101

Yes, I bought mine on Amazon. There are 2 models, one that is a single lead (one waveform on ECG) and one that is a six lead (six waveforms). I spent a little more and got the six lead model, but probably not necessary.

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Myheart101 in reply to estrennen

I'm going there and checking it out. Thanks! Amazon that is.

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Dangerousdriver in reply to estrennen

I’ve got the 6L too, but hardly use it. I tend to use my Apple Watch as it’s far quicker to get a reading! I find it hard to get a 6 lead reading when clothed lol. Trying to expose your ankle or leg isn’t easy unless in your birthday suit lol

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Myheart101 in reply to estrennen

Plus it is normal and my heart feels ok.

Try the following and perhaps you can keep your Afib permanently gone, or decrease it's severity:

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After 9 years of trying different foods and logging EVERYTHING I ate, I found sugar (and to a lesser degree, salt – i.e. dehydration) was triggering my Afib. Doctors don't want to hear this - there is no money in telling patients to eat less sugar. Each person has a different sugar threshold - and it changes as you get older, so you need to count every gram of sugar you eat every day (including natural sugars in fruits, etc.). My tolerance level was 190 grams of sugar per day 8 years ago, 85 grams a year and a half ago, and 60 grams today, so AFIB episodes are more frequent and last longer. If you keep your intake of sugar below your threshold level your AFIB will not happen again (easier said than done of course). It's not the food - it's the sugar (or salt - see below) IN the food that's causing your problems. Try it and you will see - should only take you 1 or 2 months of trial-and-error to find your threshold level. And for the record - ALL sugars are treated the same (honey, refined, agave, natural sugars in fruits, etc.). I successfully triggered AFIB by eating a bunch of plums and peaches one day just to test it out. In addition, I have noticed that moderate exercise (7-mile bike ride or 5-mile hike in the park) often puts my Afib heart back in to normal rhythm a couple hours later. Don’t know why – perhaps you burn off the excess sugars in your blood/muscles or sweat out excess salt?? I also found that strenuous exercise does no good – perhaps you make yourself dehydrated?? Also, in addition to sugar, if you are dehydrated - this will trigger AFIB as well. It seems (but I have no proof of this) that a little uptick of salt in your blood is being treated the same as an uptick of sugar - both cause AFIB episodes. (I’m not a doctor – it may be the sugar in your muscles/organs and not in your blood, don’t know). In any case you have to keep hydrated, and not eat too much salt. The root problem is that our bodies are not processing sugar/salt properly and no doctor knows why, but the AFIB seems to be a symptom of this and not the primary problem, but medicine is not advanced enough to know the core reason that causes AFIB at this time. You can have a healthy heart and still have Afib – something inside us is triggering it when we eat too much sugar or get (even a little) dehydrated. Find out the core reason for this and you will be a millionaire and make the cover of Time Magazine! Good luck! - Rick Hyer PS – there is a study backing up this data you can view at: Cardiab.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1475-2840-7-28

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Hi, sounds very interesting. Hard, it will be. I'm trying to be good and eat healthy.

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Madscientist16

I had my cryo-ablation Nov. 5. I been having a lot of ectopics, flutters and other palpitations since the procedure. They are starting to lessen some, but they still seem to be more frequent than before the procedure. Doctor says this is all normal. Just take a deep breath. You are not alone.

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Dangerousdriver

It’s not abnormal for these blips to occur as Bob said. I had a few myself and I get that it’s unnerving, but I wouldn’t be too concerned.

Not sure where you are from, but my advice would be you should have arrhythmia nurses you can contact via phone or email. I’d say get something to check your rhythm such as a Kardia or Apple Watch.

I found those invaluable because I was able to catch blips whilst they were still occurring. Then you can send the reading to the nurses who then come back to and tell you what they think. But it’s important not use these devices unless you are suffering symptoms. It can be easy to become heart obsessed and you find yourself checking your HR even when things are normal.

Good luck!

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