Hiya all, I have permanent AF I had a cardioversion op but it flipped back into AF after ten days. It is almost impossible to take blood and put a cannula in my arms and hands it can be done with a Doppler scanner but the operator needs patience and needs to listen to me. The anaesthetic at the op ignored my advice as to where to try and spent 40 minutes prodding in my arm in places I new full well he would have no joy until I suggested he put a line in my neck which he did. I told him previously he would get a cannula in my foot but he just wasn’t listening. This has had serious implications as consultant has told me he feels putting a line in my neck is dangerous and he is treating my AF with drugs and not another cardioversion op, it has brought my heart rate down to a manageable level but the AF is still lurking if you get my drift. Is anyone else with permanent AF being treated with drugs alone In my case it’s Diltiazem 180 mg, bisoprolol 10mg once a day and apixaban 5mg night and morning. Is this my lot for the rest of my life.