PAF and Urine loss

[Algienon]

When I have AF episodes I need to go to the toilet a lot and seem to loose a lot of urine. Is this common and why is this so. Also should you drink water to replace it or will this expatiate the situation.

Best regards to to you all

[BobD Volunteer]

Yes this is quite normal. The distressed heart secretes an enzyme which tell the body to get rid of salt so you P a lot. Not very convenient sometimes but quite normal. Strangely this hasn't been mentioned for quite a while so another timely message for newbies.

[jennydog]

This is called 'increased micturition'

When I start to produce unaccountably huge amount of urine then I know that AF will start or has already started. I haven't been able to work out if I am releasing excess fluid or whether I am becoming dehydrated. Either way it's sensible to drink some water.

[barbara2 in reply to jennydog]

Interesting!

[Finvola]

Yes, it's a well known effect of AF and the amount passed can be quite startling. About 2 years ago there were some hilarious posts about how people coped with it. It is important not to get dehydrated - in my case I seemed to pass more urine than could account for several days' drinking liquid - so once I returned to NSR I drank lots of water.

[Bagrat]

Very irritating when connected to monitor on A and E!!!

[djroute66]

once again af gets the blame but it is also the medication . Your bodies as a natural defence to try and flush out the medication which it sees as poison . When I was on a pill in the pocket I was fine. But now I take flecainide every day I practically live on the toilet

[Finvola in reply to djroute66]

I wasn't taking Flecainide when I had bouts of AF, so it was definitely the AF which caused the weeing in my case. The science is there to link it to the distressed heart which releases an enzyme to flush salt out of the body by excreting litres and litres of urine.

[djroute66 in reply to Finvola]

I am not one to argue against science even through it keeps changing and. Re-evaluating itself. All I can tell you is my experience guest we are all different

[Jamila123 in reply to djroute66]

Hi

I had an episode of PAF and was shocked of the amount of urine I passed

Doctors said its normal in PAF

I was not on any medications

[Algienon in reply to Jamila123]

thank you for your reply

[pottypete1]

It always happens to me when I am in AF.

Pete

[barbara2 in reply to pottypete1]

Me, too.

[Finvola]

The hormone is called Atrial Natriuretic Factor and one of the triggers for its release is the stretching of the atria - there is some interesting reading on the web about it and how our forebears treated dropsy by stimulating its release (without knowing they did so).

[CDreamer in reply to Finvola]

How interesting Finvola.

[creschendo in reply to Finvola]

A medico in the family told me that researchers are looking at the use of this hormone as a treatment option for CHF - beacause it is SO effective in shedding fluid. For what it's worth I always go with the "rehydrate" option - I figure the body is trying to flush nasty substances, not dry me out.

[Algienon in reply to creschendo]

thanks for your reply

[VeeT]

It happens to me too. Another side affect of AF which no one told me about along with face & head sweats. Thank goodness for this site.

[Japaholic]

Yep, scuse my French but I used to piss buckets when in AF. Thankfully I am a year post successful ablation and now urinate with normal amount and frequency.

[Mazza23]

I now realise I must have been having bouts of AF for about 2years before I was admitted with heart failure. As I used to have bouts of weeing all the time I would go about every 10 mins but the AF wasn't picked up

[Denise-]

You do wonder where it all comes from! I also sweat especially my head and neck so sip water, glad you asked, I thought it was just me, thankyou for this site

[jimmysouthgates]

I went into af during my ablation and in true fashion was brasting for a wee when on the table, hence to say I wasn't allowed to move! When in recovery I filled two and a half wee bottles Haha

[jennydog in reply to jimmysouthgates]

I had the problem immediately after my ablation during the mandatory lie-in. I was desperate and they provided a tin tray which was about 1" deep. I actually produced about an egg cupful ! Oh, the embarrassment !!!!!

[RichMert]

Yes, if a visit was required every 15 - 20 minutes it would confirm what I already knew......PAF attack. Inconvenient when it lasts for 2 hours or more and you are away from home.

[Algienon in reply to RichMert]

Thank you for your reply

[Algienon]

Thanks to all of you who replied to my question re PAF and Urine Loss.

[KipperJohn]

I always used to wonder when I was first diagnosed why I had this problem - eventually found it on the internet! Usually drops off after a couple of hours as the heart rate drops after taking extra metoprolol. Worst experience was when in A and E and they decided to keep me in and put me on a drip - plus a monitor, no bell and no bottle. Calling a nurse every 15 minutes is no fun for the patient or them!

Another good reason for trying the ablation route and kicking PAF into touch for as long as possible.

When in NSR everything's fine - I wonder how it affects people with permanent AF?

[Patient007]

Yes I do too. Especially annoying when I get an AF attack during the night. I might as well just stay in the toilet and sleep there!

[eleanor--1941]

I was told when I was at A&E in AF and having to go to the toilet frequently,that the kidneys work overtime when in AF,didn't ask why,does anyone know why?

Best Wishes

Eleanor.