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I have paroxysmal atrial fibrillation and I take Bisoprolol 10mg, Ramipril 7.5mg, Amlodipine 5mg, Atorvastatin 10mg and Warfarin. My GP wants to add a diuretic as my blood pressure has been going up over the last few months but I have read that diuretics can alter the electrolyte balance particularly potassium and magnesium. Does anyone have any comments or information?

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I have not had any need for diuretics so have not done much research but what I WILL say is that I used top have some puffiness around my feet and ankles, which I attribute to my heart not working as well as it could after a heart attack in 2009.

I started magnesium supplementation in January of this year and it was only last week that I realised that all signs of puffiness/fluid retention had gone.

Magnesium is known to have some diuretic properties according to some studies progressivehealth.com/magen... and I have to say I would be wary of anything that is changing the potassium/magnesium balance considering these two are VITAL for normal heart rhythm.

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It is always useful having a diuretic to hand if/when you get puffy ankles, but only if raising your legs in bed doesn't work which is also what I would try first.

If that fails I'd look at the alternative of changing bisoprolol for another beta-blocker like nebivolol.

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My BP is usually around 150 systolic but recently it has been up to 160. I've been seeing my GP once a month and it's a bit higher each time. Bisoprolol and Ramipril doses have both been increased but that doesn't seem to have made much difference

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Dadog

I was prescribed a diuretic along with Amlodopine and Lisiniprol years ago, to control high BP. When in AF these drugs were continued and Bisoprolol and Warfarin added. My GP was concerned by liquid retention in my lower legs (tested by depressing around the ankle with a thumb which left a dent that didn't want to go away). Remained on the diuretic and have never had a problem with it. Routine blood tests seem to show eveything in order. Let us know how you get on, Patricia1

David

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Patricia1 in reply to Dadog

Thank you for this

Hello Patricia1

I have permanent AF and am on 10mg Bisoprolol and Warfarin. I am amazed that you are having to take those other drugs: have you discussed the possible interactions between them with your GP? Adding another just makes the situation more complicated. I have an Omron blood pressure monitor and check my BP every 2 or 3 days. Despite my age (83) it is usually around 120/70, but perhaps I am just lucky. Checking it at the GP's surgery involves the 'white coat syndrome' which can increase BP readings. A Magnesium supplement, already suggested, is a good idea. But do discuss your drug regime with your GP and try to get it simplified to avoid interactions.

Best wishes.

Tony.

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Patricia1

Thank you for this good advice

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Patricia1

I try to eat as healthily as I can - organic wherever feasible, wholegrains, fruit and vegetables, etc

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Patricia1

Good suggestion. As I am 73 then I could safely go up to 170 systolic under the old guidelines and my diastolic has never been a problem usually at around 80.

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Patricia1

I do eat a lot of carbohydrate, albeit wholegrains, and I do eat a lot of fruit although I avoid white sugar. You have certainly given me 'food for thought' here

Hi Patricia,

Just a further thought: eat a banana every day to increase Potassium levels and thus decrease BP. Also, use Lo-salt instead of ordinary salt; it is a good balance of Potassium and Sodium salts, but tastes just as salty.

Best wishes,

Tony.

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I already eat a banana every day for that reason and I don't add salt to food at all

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Fenderman

Hi big leg. I remember being told that 100 plus your age for your first reading but I was not told the differential of 40 for the second part.

I know they now say the ideal reading is 120/80 but despite medication I'm rarely at that level. I'm more in the range 121-140/81-90

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