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Don’t worry , be happy !

Whimpy-p
Whimpy-p

Peace to everyone👣

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The great Guru's meaning of life is "wet birds don't fly at night"......

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Sunday 08/09/2020 2:40 PM DST

SPEEDYX
SPEEDYX in reply to j-o-h-n

Jackie Vernon...Frosty...forgotten classic comedian

j-o-h-n
j-o-h-n in reply to SPEEDYX

Godfrey Cambridge Watermelon man....

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Sunday 08/09/2020 3:28 PM DST

SPEEDYX
SPEEDYX in reply to j-o-h-n

Yes I forgot about him

j-o-h-n
j-o-h-n in reply to SPEEDYX

That's why I'm here.............

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Sunday 08/09/2020 3:42 PM DST

SPEEDYX
SPEEDYX in reply to j-o-h-n

Yes we need you here for a long time...it is a real challenge to match your wit and knowledge...it reduces brain fog!!!

j-o-h-n
j-o-h-n in reply to SPEEDYX

You're the witty one.... I have a staff of five comedy writers....

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Sunday 08/09/2020 4:11 PM DST

SPEEDYX
SPEEDYX in reply to j-o-h-n

I am sure!!😂

monte1111
monte1111 in reply to j-o-h-n

Hope they have their green cards.

j-o-h-n
j-o-h-n in reply to monte1111

They don't need them... dem are rioters...

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Monday 08/10/2020 7:55 PM DST

"...it reduces brain fog.."

regarding myself --

NO brain + NO fog = NO PROBLEM

👍😄Keep riding!!!!

Till the cows come home

and since there ain't no cows 'round here -- no worries. 😄

Udder Genius

Dang, you just moooo-ved me

lincolnj8
lincolnj8 in reply to j-o-h-n

Ah I'm happy with a bowl of chocolate chip ice cream

j-o-h-n
j-o-h-n in reply to lincolnj8

That makes two of us..........

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Monday 08/10/2020 8:53 AM DST

Whimpy-p
Whimpy-p in reply to j-o-h-n

2 scoops !🥳

lincolnj8
lincolnj8 in reply to Whimpy-p

YES

Kaliber
Kaliber in reply to j-o-h-n

“ wet birds don’t fly at night “

Sweaty bats ? Close .....

Just say’in 😂😂😂

j-o-h-n
j-o-h-n in reply to Kaliber

You lost me...... what am I missing or are you hallucinating again?

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Monday 08/10/2020 11:05 PM DST

Kaliber
Kaliber in reply to j-o-h-n

Well .... you quoted “ the great guru’s meaning of life is “ wet birds don’t fly at night “ .... I said , sweaty bats do ... pretty close to wet birds .... right ?

I wish I WAS hallucinating, at least what I see wouldn’t be real ... but it is ..... unfortunately

Just say’in

j-o-h-n
j-o-h-n in reply to Kaliber

Sorry.... But by then in the posts I was thinking ice cream (my favorite subject)... It's also my senility settling in.....

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Tuesday 08/11/2020 11:02 AM DST

Kaliber
Kaliber in reply to j-o-h-n

Yayahahahaya 😂😂😂😂

Kaliber
Kaliber in reply to j-o-h-n

Yea sometimes its just better to kiss principal things and even then no one gets it. In a different post, I did a whole riff on a PBS public tv Travel show called Rick Steves in a French sidewalk restaurant and “ zero “ people got it or mentioned it if they did. For sure you didn’t. Maybe people don’t watch those travel shows like I do, or care ...dunno.

Stuck here in the house it seemed fanciful to think of travel in France and kick ole Rick Steves around a little .... whatever. Yayahahahaya. Energy in this thread seems like a lot of negativity and edgy people ... add stage 4 cancer and stuck in your house ... long enough .... it’s easy to see how things could wear on everyone.

💪💪💪✌️✌️✌️

j-o-h-n
j-o-h-n in reply to Kaliber

I didn't see that post, if I did I know I would have commented on it for sure. Is there any way you can post it privately? I know I would enjoy it.

CLICK ON THE TITLE ON TOP OF VIDEO TO LISTEN:

youtube.com/watch?v=5Qk9o_Z...

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Tuesday 08/11/2020 11:11 AM DST

Kaliber
Kaliber in reply to j-o-h-n

Actually you did comment on it ... the one where you said something like “ lunch , that’s just the appetizer “ ... my bad that you didn’t comment ..... you did. I’m pleading Lupron fog. ( add crawfish part here ).

The satirical part was I listed enough food for a small army ... just for a picnic, the food plus wine I mentioned would have been about $40 a mouthful. ...even left off the shaved truffles and Russian caviar. Yayahahahaya

I actually did have Small a picnic planned , sentimental QOL time with wifey. She took the wine and drank it in her bedroom ...I’m eating the cheese as snacks now yayahahahaya. She probably hangs out with your Ex Wife. Being trapped in the house for long periods probably messes with everybody.

Cancer surgery on my forehead ( 5” of staples and stitches out tomorrow ) , Covid stuck in house for months already, stage 4 cancer / adt .... wife getting testy / claustrophobia ... starting to wear on me too I guess yayahahahaya yikes ...

Later buddy 😂😂😂😂

j-o-h-n
j-o-h-n in reply to Kaliber

I guess your satirical part of the PBS travel show post went over my head... next time warn me so I can stand up....

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Tuesday 08/11/2020 2:56 PM DST

Kaliber
Kaliber in reply to j-o-h-n

Wifey and I went out this morning for walk ( me on the e-trike ) when we got back we started making some “ cookies “ for her ( I’m not allowed to eat them anymore ) . She can make three dozen fresh cookies disappear like magic yayahahahaya. Must be good’ens .

✌️✌️✌️✌️

SPEEDYX
SPEEDYX in reply to Kaliber

Choclate chip with pecans!

Kaliber
Kaliber in reply to SPEEDYX

Yummmmm .... chocolate chips, p-cans and Black Suger Rose ( 1gm per cookie in the batter ) ..... woowzie .... I’m drooling on my self .... nice and soft and chewy....hot out of the oven with a cuppa fresh ground Kona ... ooooooh mannnnn . Yayahahahaya

SPEEDYX
SPEEDYX in reply to Kaliber

Sounds Good except I like them crunchy....love the kona!!!

Kaliber
Kaliber in reply to SPEEDYX

Yes yes crunchy too ....they’re all good .

😄😄😄

Kaliber
Kaliber in reply to SPEEDYX

Every other pot I switch between the Kona and Jamblu ... the Japanese have fallen in love with Jamblu , making it scarce and driving up the prices. Love my coffee

SPEEDYX
SPEEDYX in reply to Kaliber

I like a smooth nutty coffee...always trying new ones...never heard of jamblu...2x week I have good old fashion perk....I have pyrex glass pots from 1940'snd 1950's

Kaliber
Kaliber in reply to SPEEDYX

Jamblu is the nickname for Jamaican blue Mountain coffee beans. Vintage coffee pots are kewl .. I like those glass ones you used to see in cafe’s in the 50s . You put the measured water in the bottom and coffee on top in the metal funnel like thingy on a paper filter. The heat drew the water into the top and it fell back into the bottom ready to drink. Back then city water didn’t have many chemicals in them. Not like today.

👍👍👍☕️☕️☕️

SPEEDYX
SPEEDYX in reply to Kaliber

You got it...Now we all now how to perk😄...NYC water the best!!

Whimpy-p
Whimpy-p in reply to Kaliber

I’ve been to Murpheys hill With my deceased brother Charley in the blue mountains. Of Jamaica. I cherish a photos of us together there. Great coffe . I once invested in their stock. My bro would smoke with the rastas. He went 15 times to Jamaica 🇯🇲

Kaliber
Kaliber in reply to Whimpy-p

Jamaica is like a lot of other places, but some great people and music there ..and that amazing bud doesn’t hurt yayahahahaya

💪💪💪✌️✌️✌️

j-o-h-n
j-o-h-n in reply to Kaliber

I love my cookies........ around 5'6" tall, slim(great bod), blonde hair, around 30 years old, nice legs, great dancer, great listener and married to a whimp of a guy who doesn't own any firearms......(Pecans not necessary)....

Now you know why my first personalized license plate (tag) was NAWTDEVL

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Tuesday 08/11/2020 3:04 PM DST

SPEEDYX
SPEEDYX in reply to j-o-h-n

😂.....Sounds like W.C. Fjelds... he like girl children around 18 20

j-o-h-n
j-o-h-n in reply to SPEEDYX

Like him..... I just love those chickadees.....

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Tuesday 08/11/2020 4:24 PM DST

Kaliber
Kaliber in reply to SPEEDYX

I liked them around 18 myself. Married 4 times , no wife ever over 18. Married my current wife when she just turned 18 ... she had a baby and was getting a divorce already .... I was 30. Still married to her 44 years later.

✌️✌️✌️✌️

SPEEDYX
SPEEDYX in reply to Kaliber

4th time a charm

Whimpy-p
Whimpy-p in reply to Kaliber

When I was 18 working at the Luckys grocery store I liked older women . Like 30 . They taught me a thing or two 😎

Kaliber
Kaliber in reply to j-o-h-n

Yayahahahaya ... see my speedyx reply ..

Whimpy-p
Whimpy-p in reply to j-o-h-n

Hahah😂😂😂

Whimpy-p
Whimpy-p in reply to Kaliber

Pure torture.

Kaliber
Kaliber in reply to Whimpy-p

Argggggggggh ... yayahahahaya yayahahahaya.

It’s hot here buddy ... already 38 days over 100f ... gonna be several days near 110f in coming 10 days and expecting 60 - 70 days over 100f before heat breaks . Bet you love those cooler new digs now ... it would probably been just as hot in your desert floor house.

😄😄😄😄🌈🌵🌵

Whimpy-p
Whimpy-p in reply to Kaliber

The Phoenix has had 333 days over 110 now breaking all times records . We don’t even have an ac here in the hills . No $300 ac bill either

Whimpy-p
Whimpy-p in reply to j-o-h-n

The positive!👍

Thats me all over, I google everything !!! Its my new catchphrase .

Hope you are ok Scott.

Take care everyone.

Whimpy-p
Whimpy-p in reply to 16starsky

✌️

Kaliber
Kaliber in reply to 16starsky

Google everything ....

I googled google ...It sent me to Yahoo and said don’t come back ....

16starsky
16starsky in reply to Kaliber

Very funny !

Kaliber
Kaliber in reply to 16starsky

Lol

Whimpy-p
Whimpy-p in reply to Kaliber

Haha . You can get your head caught in the web and never come out. I’d think that on line addictions and gambling must top the chart these days. Oh yah and the poor fools addicted to online porn are spending millions. The got caught up in on line porn as bachelor rv. A soul sucking on aste that was .That’s A problem none pc of the pc guys have . Fuck porn .. poor fools 😩

Whimpy-p
Whimpy-p in reply to 16starsky

Yep , no more arguments about anything. Just google it baby! ❤️❤️✌️

16starsky
16starsky in reply to Whimpy-p

I know , its amazing the stuff you can find out !!!!

There searching took a toll on their bodies😄

Me thinks that if I was there, our seated positions would be reversed.

🌻🙏💚❤🤗

Happy Sunday to you Whimpster, hope you and family are staying safe and cool🤙🍉

Whimpy-p
Whimpy-p in reply to Fanger1

Much better than the desert floor for summers. 😷

Fanger1
Fanger1 in reply to Whimpy-p

Alright Alright/////////////////////////////////////////////////😈

Whimpy-p
Whimpy-p in reply to Fanger1

🤙🏽😷

Hahaha...the power of tech.

Cool one dude 😎

Some days I struggle I wake up feeling sorry for myself and the day follows that course

When I truly make the effort to be mindfull it's much better

The happy I remember is far distant

The voice in my head never stops

There are brief moments when an event I love pops up

The hour and 10 minutes at the gym gives me the most peace and I pretty much forget my circumstances once I grab thise dumbbells

Having friends around that I love and are supportive also helps

My happiness is very dependent on circumstances

The day I was diagnosed changed my circumstances

My pursuit of happiness has just begun

Bless Whimpy

I wake up each morning nauseated and spinning . Been this way over five years. Can’t eat until noon. Then I’m much better. Mornings suck for me .But I get love and joy from this world still . I look at things from a child like Perspective.. Appreciating the little stuff much more than I did before . I lead an ego driven life fueled by T.. Before Thats over now . T gone ego gone just me and my adt 😳🤙🏽

Nicely written

Some time go, the Dalai Lama was interviewed by a "shock jocky" radio dude broadcaster.

With 3 minutes left to run on interview, DL was asked, "So what is the meaning of life?", which is a standard trick question for any supposed guru or religious expert.

DL just chuckled, "haha, meaning of life is to be happy, hahahah, and useful hahaha" and that left the radio dude to fill in for 2 minutes and 57 seconds. Well, if anyone listening was not yet aware, they might become aware that radio dude was both unhappy and useless, cos what he did all day was try to trick ppl and make 'am look stupid or bad, and generate yet more fake info and sensationalist bullshit most of us find appalling.

I thought "well, ya hafta be useful to be 'appy',"

Happiness depends on being useful, no?

But when I was introduced to these ideas, I retired from my working life where my business doing electronic repairs on everyone's junk paid very little. In fact the old age pension paid twice the net income I'd had for previous 18 years.

I was ECSTATICALLY happy when I retired, and told ppl I would not work for peanuts any more.

So I declared myself to be utterly useless and felt so happy. I could buy a coffee, or new pair of jeans and not worry about the price.

So the Dalai Lama Was Wrong!, ya CAN be real 'appy if youse is useless.

Ya just don't afta be a hero to make all of humanity happier or better off. There's a point to reached where whatever ya do won't make any difference, ppl are gona make all the mistakes in life that pp, like me would never have made, so its Their Problem.

So, Don't Wurry,

Be Appee,

Just try to minimize the amount of shit that happens to you and your loved ones, and its about all you afta do, OK.

After last 3 days of wonderful rains for farmers, one might think there wasn't a single farmer who wasn't 'appee, But no, now they worry about soil erosion and dams washing away and want $$$ from Gov to help them out, so why didn't they do their farming in a GREEN MANNER, and never have to whinge about side effects of good rains?

Some folks never get the meaning of life, and to me it seems none of us really know why Infinity and Eternity exist, or why our fragile little blue Planet Earth just happened to evolve. But we probably are no alone because thousands of other planets have been found, and there must be billions more, and we have not had any chance to speak with their inhabitants yet to find out about the meaning of life.

So meaning of life could be that it has no meaning. Its OK, it won't stop us caring about the other important ppl in our lives.

Patrick Turner.

Or perhaps the meaning of life is its own intrinsic wonder and beauty everywhere expressed in ever new forms and beings.

Once I heard that the purpose of life is to learn how to give and to receive love. I will go with that. It is the work of a lifetime.

As for happiness, the only true and lasting happiness is that which is unconditional and uncaused. Everything else is fleeting.

Nature just exists. True and lasting happiness and unconditional love is really rare because I've seen so much misery caused by ppl falling in love, then falling out of love, and love always has conditions and costs, and ends up being a deal with someone else. The meaning of this is unknown to me. I conclude nothing has to have meaning. We just don't know why Nature exists, even though us mammals have plans and reasons for our future survival. But this can change, when we drop atom bombs on other folks, they die, we live, take that you naughty other ppl. The banks win when thousands are out of work in a recession. You lose. I just don't see the meaning. A good Christian is supposed to support the idea that if you commit a mortal sin, you go to Hell for Eternity. Just where is the meaning? I see none, just hardness in human nature. But it is bearable because we all get hungry, and if I work for someone with money, he gives some to me and I can buy food, and issue of anything having any meaning is just all bullshit. You can't buy meaning.

Reality interrupts us thinking about meaning. Very inconvenient.

Why did the Big Bang happen? what happened before that? And don't be silly with me and tell me there was no time before big bang. Of course there was. Maybe an infinite number of other big bangs have been going on all the time for births and deaths of infinite number of universes. I just don't know the details. We are tiny, with little finite brains and the truth about Infinity and Eternity just won't fit inside our tiny brains.

Its OK because we sure can be happy while we are so dumb about things much larger than ourselves. We just borrow some atoms from Space for awhile. These atoms like each other to form zillions of molecules of amazing variety. I like most of my molecules.

I don't like my Pca molecules.

Take care of your molecules, aka yourself,

Patrick Turner.

Thank you for your thoughtful reply Patrick. I too love to learn and think about the physical universe at the most fundamental as well as at the cosmic levels. What we can know from physics writ large.

And yet I have also learned from my lifetime study and meditation practice that there is a more fundamental level of existence that is beyond the relative It cannot be demonstrated or proven objectively but it can be known, seen for oneself directly as the knowing subjective via true deep meditation ( not mindfulness). There unconditional love exists. As the mentor of my youth told me: “Think beyond”. That advice was the start of my most valuable journey.

Are you aware of being aware, Patrick? It is not a trivial nor bullshit question. Best regards, Paul

I definitely am aware of being aware. Especially if I hit my thumb with a hammer after missing thee nail. Or seeing a wife vamoose who was convinced she could not be a wife. To my knowledge gained over 73 years, there is not any evidence of "more fundamental level of existence that is beyond the relative", woteva that means.

So much of how ppl see and feel about what is in and outside of themselves is pure unadulterated bull shit, imagined krapology based on superstition. But as long as it is all benign, its harmless, so hence my tolerance of imagined spirits and gods and souls, heaven, hell et all. I just don't need or want all that stuff to clutter my brain. Seven Day Adventists have visited me and suggested the Kingdom of God on Earth will soon be established, and I just say I I just will NOT believe in any of it.

But if Jesus returned, say as a brown skinned bearded illegal immigrant male from Palestine who sneaked his way past our border police, he wood be most welcome, and I assist him to work out how to avoid immigration authorities and the ways modern living goes on as opposed to what life was like in AD33. Yeah, teach him how to use modern carpentry tools, get him to do a bunch of house repairs around here in returns for my lessons about life and avoid jail, and give him lessons on a laptop, so he can type up solutions to our world problems. I'd lend him a bicycle so we could share some time being out to enjoy blue skys.

But of course if a brown skinned middle eastern gal called Jesina turned up at my door, and could prove she was Jesus's sister whose come to save us, because Jesus was busy on another planet, yeah, that's OK, But shed get same treatment to integrate her into the modern world to avoid being crucified, or locked up for many years as a terrorist or illegal immigrant.

Alas I feel I will never get any chance to meet these characters I can imagine might exist, mostly because there is such a slim chance they do exist, and if they did, they'd maybe drop down in Bill Gates back yard 'coz that Patrick guy in Australia wood be a bit hard to get on with and expects us to work.

I'll go with being almost totally ignorant about Space, Time, Infinity, Eternity and God.

If tomorrow is fine I'll do another good cycle ride. Its very real to me.

Keep well, look after yourself,

Patrick Turner.

I love your writing. Yes? When Jesus returns! In our heart Jesus lives for those that believe .. I bought into this as a child . Prayer is my main asset . I’m very happy that you’re riding again . 😂

SPEEDYX
SPEEDYX in reply to Whimpy-p

If we just bring it down a very base concrete level....what do you have to lose....there is a possibility for eternal life!!!!....That should be enough for anybody....but there is so much more to it...a living relationship

I happen to feel that Jesus has been dead since he died violently on a cross because Romans did that to ppl who rebelled, or they didn't like, or were a nuisance. He didn't ascend to Heaven on 3rd day, certainly not without a rocket or space suit. Don't ask me what happened to his remains, maybe lost somewhere.

So IMHO, if a Jesus.2 turned up now, or say someone called Jesina, a lady from Middle East to preach again, they'd have huge difficulty doing any miracles to convince ppl to follow them because ppl have mobile phones which can make videos of every moment of their lives. Nobody gets away now with any story such as the loaves and fishes without evidence that it really happened. Anyway, if Jesus.2 did return, he'd be those who said he was full of fake info.

But ppl remember Jesus.1 as they guess he really may have been, and deify the man, and thus pray to him for help in life with cure for Pca, to get a win with lottery ticket, to get a better wife, etc, etc, etc.

I don't mind at all that the idea of who Jesus was is said to be in ppl's hearts. Hearts were once thought to be custodians of human thoughts and feelings et all but later found only good at pumping blood, and it took centuries to find out what the truth was about how our bodies work. Beliefs and ideas, and all we call human consciousness is inside our brain, not our heart.

The memory of who Jesus really was in terms of what he thought about and preached is all that is left behind and I don't mind when ppl say Jesus lives with me, because they simply accept what is remembered about him. They can go on to insist that Jesus does really live with them, and listens and responds to prayers, but this to me is all a benign fantasy that makes life more tolerable. I have NEVER seen anyone get what they prayed for, and maybe the opposite was what they got, and although I was told God was on our side in Vietnam, I still refused to accept being drafted. The Vietcong also thought God was on their side. All opposing warriors like to say some deity will help them win. Its all bullshit. If there were a few different Gods up in the sky some place, they'd be saying to each other "Look at those stupid ppl on Earth doing so much stupid stuff, and they pray to us, so ignore them!"

Look at the history of wars brought about by ppl who could not agree about theological matters. Millions have died of such idiotic concerns. So I just led a low profile existence and after turning 14 never went near a church to pray, because I believed that if I just worked and made other ppl happy, I'd get rewarded fairly with wages, then I was happy and so were other folks I worked for, and if there was a God, which I have always doubted, then he's free to make up his mind about where I go after Pca kills me in future years, and praying won't sway his decision. I cannot believe that I have a soul. After death, I'm just a bunch of molecules that Nature will re-cycle.

I still wish i could be a better man that I am, but I am just one of teeming millions who have no particular valid claim they are better than anyone else.

I don't have much of an answer for ppl who say they like to pray to Jesus or God, or meditate all day. It is at least harmless, but I never feel the need to pray. I tend to just be real about worldly things I discuss with my friends, never extremist, one eyed, and spend the rest of my time staying fit while the Medical Professions slowly drain my bank account. The bicycle leads me to a better life, not any God, and work in shed on very humble research on vacuum tube characteristics gives understanding to those enjoy using tubes to allow them to listen to good music.

I mainly like classical music now because it is inherently beautiful and mostly does not have ppl singing about the aches and pains of dealing with attraction to the opposite sex. Some operas are of course are woeful music when the words can be understood, all about the most terrible examples of human behaviors. Give me music without words, it is, IMHO, better than trying to pray; I could never stay focused on wtf I was praying about when I did a very long time ago before I liberated myself.

Must away to shed, then cycle soon,

Patrick Turner.

Hmm...

Hey Patrick, I've read your replies (twice) and here is my reply in a really condensed nutshell.

Its only my take and only applies to my life.

1) I do not believe in God (nobody can), however, I do have faith in God. Big distinction.

2) I'm not religious, however, I pray every day (not traditional canned prayers), I just send my thoughts of thanks, humility and need. Over the years many of my prayers have been answered (never prayed to win Powerball!).

3) You mention that nature "just exists". Every time I roll into my driveway, I look at the leaves, a squirrel or the birds. Think of my wife and family (and our little cat) and wonder in amazement, how did this collage of life come together? Atheists claim that there is no such thing as "intelligent design".

I beg to differ...

Best

Well, tour answer of extremely tolerable because you are not recommending I be tied to stake and burned because I am considered an unrepentant non religious person.

But how can you say you don't believe in God, yet have faith in God? I cannot have any confidence in any God being there to help me get through life without me believing that God exists. I don't bother any God to help me cope better because I see no evidence any God exists except as what society has collectively imagined God to be. What we imagine is NOT real. Nearly all humans evolved an agreed upon idea about religions and spirits and souls et all, and pity help anyone who said they knew better, or could not agree. Fortunately, I live in an epoch where burnings at stakes have been found to be stupid because Consumerism has become a preferable religion, and you can see "all the ppl puttin' on the agony and puttin on the style" very few now attend a church.

So you think tour prayers were answered? How many men have prayed for remission from Pca but died before they ever could say they prayed, but it didn't work?

All of Nature does just evolve, and it does not need any God or creator to make it happen. Athiests don't believe in the defined God in may ppl's minds because to define God is to be supremely arrogant. "Intelligent Design" is another bullshit concept because what is so intelligent about creating such a flawed species of so called intelligent mammal as us? Atheists are much maligned, but I know a few who are marvellous ppl, less pretentious and less hypocritical than many believers in God. Many Athiests will agree Jesus did live, and did give a message to us all. But they see no evidence he was God. Donald Trump ain't God. Many world rulers of past moved onto believing they were Gods, but no, they darn well were not, and there's no limit to some humans' ability to con all the ppl around them that thy are God. And to make sure there was no doubt, they'd hire an army to go around and kill all the ppl who disagreed.

Rivers of blood flowed due to disagreements over what exits or does not, and all that blood flow shows just how damn stupid humans are to believe in their own bullshit without any real evidence.

Existence and Nature just exists. Left alone by interfering humans, Nature continues to evolve new species and eliminate others, and Nature has no known imposed human qualities which allows us to make contact. Its just THERE. Accept or dominate it, exploit it, do whatever, and there may not be a reaction which anyone might like, or ever see coming at them.

We can be very good ppl without any mention or belief in God, and methinks the more we believe in goodness without God, the better off we can be.

Ppl need to remember the Bible and Old Testament and New Testament were written by some crazy ppl who were utterly ignorant of most basic properties of intelligent mammals and how they came to exist. Aborigines came to Australia with a set of primitive beliefs based on imagination and survived here for 60,000 years before Christ or Jews or Muslims ever evolved to dictate to other ppl to believe a certain way or be killed.

I had a good day in shed, as it rained all day. I didn't need or want God's help at any time. I'll get through my last years without prayer to any deity. But some years ago I went to a classical music concert in a modern small suburban Anglican Church on a Saturday arvo, and Baroque music was played by 30 musicians, and it was at a time I was still recovering from having both knee joints replaced in early 2017, and it was nearest thing to spiritual experience I ever had. Ever since Vivaldi wrote his famous works, people have had the same moving experience with well played music, and in those past times ppl were lucky to live to 40, but some had discovered good music which moved ppl to feel something indescribable.

But not one person in audience of 200 noticed I was alone, or said hello. So how un-christian is that?

People have beliefs, but so often I see they are no better for having them.

Patrick Turner.

Hmm... Søren Kierkegaard (1813–1855) considered to be the father of existential philosophy, explains this in his "3 stages of life".

The Religious as Third Stage on Life’s Way

Kierkegaard considers the religious life to be the highest plane of existence. He also believes that almost no one lives a truly religious life. He is concerned with how to be “a Christian in Christendom”—in other words, how to lead an authentically religious life while surrounded by people who are falsely religious. For Kierkegaard, the relationship with God is exclusively personal, and he believed the large-scale religion of the church (i.e., Christendom) distracts people from that personal relationship. Kierkegaard passionately criticized the Christian Church for what he saw as its interference in the personal spiritual quest each true Christian must undertake.

In the aesthetic life, one is ruled by passion. In the ethical life, one is ruled by societal regulations. In the religious life, one is ruled by total faith in God. One can never be truly free, and this causes boredom, anxiety, and despair. True faith doesn’t lead to freedom, but it relieves the psychological effects of human existence. Kierkegaard claims that the only way to make life worthwhile is to embrace faith in God, and that faith necessarily involves embracing the absurd. One has faith in God, but one cannot believe in God. We believe in things that we can prove, but we can only have faith in things that are beyond our understanding. For example, we believe in gravity: we feel its effects constantly, which we recognize as proof of gravity’s existence. It makes no sense, though, to say we have faith in gravity, since that would require the possibility that, someday, gravity would fail to materialize. Faith requires uncertainty, and thus we can have faith in God because God is beyond logic, beyond proof, and beyond reason. There’s no rational evidence for God, but this is exactly what allows people to have faith in him.

Here is the link that explains the three stages:

sparknotes.com/philosophy/k...

There are reasons why a few ppl choose to become a holy monk or priest or other holy person or a witch doctor or some other non productive parasite getting a free ride by not making anything that is real or tradable is often because they just cannot function in the secular world, which they see as too sinful and bad, and they just can't admit their own short comings and sinning, and they then go on to promote the religious life as the highest quality of life that is attainable. They also escape taxation.

I would propose those who claim to be the highest form of human existence by being deeply religious are in fact the lowest form, and dull, boring, mis-informed, ignorant, but at least mostly benign. But they won't get a $ from me. I'd tell 'em to go get a job ya lazy idiot.

I'm not going to spoil my Sunday by reading more about Kierkegaad because already you have described the one reason why whatever he says is flawed - he believes in God, who, afaik, does not exist except as an imagined entity in ppl's minds.

I commend you for your efforts to convert me to believing in God but what I see as Pure Unadulterated Bullshit ( PUB ) will not change how I think or feel about existence, or about God, but my personal capabilities will glide down to zero as I slowly or quickly degrade until one day or night my heart will stop, and I will be un-alive, dead, and soon completely un-existent as Nature quickly recycles my atoms. I will not go to heaven, hell, purgatory because I don't have a soul, and the places where we go after death are only imagined by ppl who just can't accept mortality.

A few ppl might remember me for a few weeks, and I cannot even make my website stay alive on internet for more than 2 years, except as an archived version, better than nothing.

Nobody handles pure freedom very well as you may feel, but I quite enjoy my sinless freedom I have now, and I feel quite happy although If Nature offered an option for be to be 25 again I'd accept it, but Nature hasn't been seen to ever do this at all, and just can only re-cycle us. But maybe one day immortality could be possible if our body is cloned, and our mind and its consciousness is transferred to the new body without us feeling any pain of transition. Smart medical ppl are needed, not God, not Nature, and they'll want a big $$$$ fee to make you live another 80 years in what is a new body. But you won't like being a newly made clone child but with your present consciousness and memories and qualities of an adult mind, and the other kids you meet will be terrified, because you'll be like Frankenstien's creature. Girls won't want to bonk you because although you appear handsome and young again, and can fix 'em up nicely, you have an old person's brain, and will wonder how ya got all that money at such a young age. So although immortality is ultimate freedom, it may well bring increasing problems as the centuries roll by and you are re-cloned again and again, and able to put off the evil day when its just not possible any more for some yet un-foreseeable reason.

I just don't bother reading or thinking about any kind of possible eternal future because I see not the slightest bit of evidence life after death can exist, and the science fiction versions of any future are only very slightly feasible.

But in 1908, Govt was able to promise they were gunna give ppl an old age pension if ya lived to 65. That got quite a few more votes in an election. But hardly anyone lived to get any pension at 65 in 1908, and life was so brutally short for 101 reasons, and ya usually died poor, and were quickly forgotten. But now we see vast millions living to 85, and many getting more stupid day after day, ie, age does not always bring wisdom, it brings the opposite.

During youth we have the opportunity to ditch the bullshit we believe in and try adopting a better known form of truth. This sometimes happens as we age, but some often get totally muddled up by any change. Maybe they become gooder or badder ppl, dangerous or less so, but I big change must always be related to REALITY, but then one man's Reality is another man's Bullshit, and wars have been fought with rivers of blood because of all this.

I should manage to cycle 50km+ today after yesterday's rain all day. It looks like spring here will be spectacular, and in fact its coming early with plum blossoms and wattle flowering, and nights are just not as cold. The magpies are already beginning to attack me when I cycle past their territory where they are nesting, and keeping eggs warm, and defending.

Patrick Turner.

Ignorance is bliss. Knowing too much is dangerous. How’s that bike riding going ?

treedown
treedown in reply to Whimpy-p

Maybe it's just about the journey in the end.

I need to know how to get best treatment for Pca. I refuse to be totally ignorant just to enjoy bliss; I do like to think about a conglomeration of ideas and things and not just feel that I exist. Bliss can be So Dull And Boring.

Its far more dangerous to be ignorant, than knowing too much, IMHO.

Overall, my cycling program is going OK with week after week intention to cycle 200km+.

But its mid winter, and I have had program interrupted by having to travel out of town for Lu177, and days of rain, but I still am managing enough km to keep string and fit enough to over take many other cyclists up to 1/3 of of my age and rarely get overtaken myself. Its years since anyone over 60 overtook me on any of my hundreds of rides of over 50km around my rather nice city and far flung suburbs.

I think I am a "Pinup Boi" at Canberra Hospital because I'm their healthiest stage 4 cancer patient. Its not really the kind of 15 minutes of fame I'd ever really want.

But my medical team should get a prize for keeping me alive so long and looking so well.

Had a nice day in shed, got good stuff done.

Ride tamorra, if it don't rain.

Patrick Turner.

Take care Patrick .. you’re an amazing guy .

Whimpy-p
Whimpy-p in reply to MateoBeach

Bravo Mateo!

Great writing ✍️. His eminence is correct. I agree. Happiness is the goal , being needed or being useful sure is important. Thanks 😊

Apart from the Dalai Lama, what other religious leader would say happiness and usefulness give meaning to our lives? But which personal condition follows the other? If we are useful, then this may make us happy. But if we can be happy unconditionally, maybe we might do things which lead to us being more useful.

The world has huge numbers who are grumpy and unhappy and are useless, even destructive, so what is the meaning of life for them? Does it have un-meaning? What is that?

But happiness and usefulness seem only to be personal mental perceptions and themselves don't have meaning because we don't know why all of existence exists.

It just does exist.

I spent most of my life pleasing others with a smile so I'd get paid by ppl happy with my work. My work ethic was "do or die, and don't ask why". Just pull finger out, get on with it, and just ignore all the bludgers and whingers. I've got through life without having any clearly defined religious faith, not even Buddhist, and I hold have any idea that a God might help me or punish me because theology is all a pile of brainwashing.

But Jesus the man probably was a just a very good man, also Mohammad, but since these men lived their basic message has been lost and largely replaced by hierarchical church rules on what we must or must not think, feel, say, or do or else we could be killed to make us conform. Its why I have not been to a Church to pray since I was about 14.

And if Jesus returned here at my house, and said, "Now Patrick, its time for you to eat my flesh and drink my blood", I'd refuse to do so, and tell him "Stop being silly, now just sit down here mate and I'll make us a nice sandwich. And Jesus, then you can just sit down here at my laptop and type what it is to be Christian without any bullshit, OK, and you'd then be useful, and that'd make both of us happy. And then if you wanted, post it up at FaceBook, and maybe it'd go viral. Then Jesus, you'd have to remain humble, after gaining fame for your wisdom, and not want $$$ for it. And don't get any smart ideas to start a large corporation such as Roman Catholic Church which bans its priests from ever marrying. They say they followed Jesus.1, but do have any idea how corrupt these corporations became?"

But Jesus might not like this and move into typical human Frank Sinatra mode and begin singing "I did it my way", which implied Frank was selfish, egotisical, and desired huge $$$ for having a nice voice. Mick Jagger screamed that he could get no satisfaction. I wondered, "What's up Mick? why can't ya get that?" Fleetwood Mac sang "...There ya go again you want your freedom" which meant someone was pissed off about an unfaithful lover. So the message in Western Culture is that there is no useful message. There are just so many ppl and ideas we might need to ignore completely to have any chance at being happy after yet another day spent being alive. Could anyone be happy, having to refuse so much of what ppl call living well?

17C forecast here today, so a nice cycle ride is possible. Sunny so far. I should have gone yesterday but it was just so cold and grey, I worked in shed for a good outcome instead. I don't mind the social distancing in this year of C19.

Patrick Turner.

The message had been lost . Western culture doesn’t have much of a message . Except consumption. There hasn’t been much of a change for love in 2020 years . I see you flying by on your bike and that’s your realm of joy. I’m just a passenger on this shop . Take care Patrick.🚴

A passenger in a shop? Maybe yes, the passenger in the ship called Consuma.

I feel I spent much of my life working hard, so no regrets because I am financially OK now. But I waited at the train station for the train of love, but it just didn't stop for me to let me on. That was ok also, when I later considered how expensive anything to do with love was.

2020 years? More like 40 million years if you examine our whole line of mammal evolution. Our genes could only propagate if they included strong feelings of lust and to care for offspring. Love died so often and so fast without the ladies explaining why, even though they swore they loved, but of course they didn't, and it was just brief lust. It was amazing just how neurotic ladies were over these issues. I just went to work, and I had customers to please, and if all the drama dames were not happy, it was mainly their problem, because any attempt of persuasion or spoiling a dame was seen as manipulation, or just too expensive respectively.

I have quite a very good life living alone. If any lady wanted to relate to me she'd have to prove there would be a betterment to both our lives, and this idea of a woman proving anything at all to any man is totally socially offensive to many females.

And now in this age of supposed gender equality, I would always want a say in how life would be lived and where $$$ would be spent, so I can predict accurately that no lady will ever be in my life again. This is OK. Its not a problem.

Cold grey day here, rained all last night, and again now at 10am, so its unlikely I'll do a ride today. I doubt it will fine up, so here I am online, but maybe will spend time in shed soon, away from the maddening modern world. I like my "escaping techniques" .

Patrick Turner.

Peace to you Whimpy. Today I find meaning of life walking thru the woods.

Whimpy-p
Whimpy-p in reply to Newyork6264

Me too!

Love the humor. We always need them. Peace Scott.

Nick

Whimpy-p
Whimpy-p in reply to Nicnatno

Peace Nic✌️

I would write more Scott but I'm too busy googling!

Stay happy. I hope to join you once I’m through with chemo.

Whimpy-p
Whimpy-p in reply to Stevana

We can hardly ask a kid a question anymore without this answer. “ google it!” Get the chemo over and back to recovery my friended . Take care 💪🤙🏽

Stevana
Stevana in reply to Whimpy-p

Roger that...sir.

Why do they call it The Big Bang? Maybe it was just A Little Bang. There are many meanings to life. Watching our children and grandchildren grow up is one, chocolate chip ice cream, two scoops is another. Enjoy.

Whimpy-p
Whimpy-p in reply to monte1111

2 for 2 . Hang loose monte1111..😎

j-o-h-n
j-o-h-n in reply to monte1111

To hear video click on the title on top of the video:

youtube.com/watch?v=1TS5tvb...

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Monday 08/10/2020 7:50 PM DST

monte1111
monte1111 in reply to j-o-h-n

That's the screen God saw when he created the World. Maybe he'll come back later and fix some of the loose ends ........... starting with prostate cancer.

j-o-h-n
j-o-h-n in reply to monte1111

Yeah..... next time he'll give it to women...

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Monday 08/10/2020 9:59 PM DST

monte1111
monte1111 in reply to j-o-h-n

I'm guessing you'll push your ex to the front of the line.

j-o-h-n
j-o-h-n in reply to monte1111

over the edge............................

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Monday 08/10/2020 10:30 PM DST

Whimpy-p
Whimpy-p in reply to j-o-h-n

So cruel dear sir. They have hormonal Cs already .

Whimpy-p
Whimpy-p in reply to monte1111

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

Thanks Scott these threads always bring me smiles!

Whimpy-p
Whimpy-p in reply to treedown

Thank you . I’m just looking for the light through the forest. 😂🤙🏽

Love ya buddy 🌈

Whimpy-p
Whimpy-p in reply to Kaliber

My uro told me “ I never promised you rainbows and butterflies. “ as he implanted gold up my ass as my poor wife looked on. ..

Kaliber
Kaliber in reply to Whimpy-p

Yayahahahaya ewwwwwwwwww .... awkward at the least. It’s those romantic memories we treasure yayahahahaya. Just imagine the stuff running thru the wifey’s head . Wow.

She couldn’t have such “ special “ moments with most other guys ....

I’m getting dressed to go to kaiser this morning ... gonna get my surgical sutures out this morning ... blood test for drugs and zometa infusion Friday afternoon .... then back Friday for my ole buddy Zometa. The fun never stops ...

😂😂😂😂😂

SPEEDYX
SPEEDYX in reply to Kaliber

You are the !!!INDESTRUCTIBLE MAN!!!

Kaliber
Kaliber in reply to SPEEDYX

Yea not so much ... check out my answer to whimpy below 💪💪💪💪✌️✌️✌️✌️

Whimpy-p
Whimpy-p in reply to Kaliber

Haha.. yah.. I’ve been a real charmer😔

Kaliber
Kaliber in reply to Whimpy-p

Ewwwwwww ... one thing tho .. I’ll bet the wifey never thought she’d be watching something like that take place. Yayahahahaya Those gold seeds match your 24kt personality buddy.

Back from kaiser ...things didn’t go very well unfortunately. Didn’t get the pre Zometa bloodwork and there won’t be a Zometa infusion Friday now ... that’s good things. Got the staples and sutures out but the 5” cancer surgery incision on my forehead is seriously infected. When last suture was cut out it popped open and brown bloody goo ran down side of my face ... medical helper looked a little green around the gills , grabbed my hand and held it. yayahahahaya yayahahahaya. Gonna need wound debrideing once a day and 8-10 dressing changes a day ... went on some new super antibiotics for a few weeks. Doctor taught wifey to do the work, guess it looked so bad ...made wifey sick. Kaiser will send in a nurse daily to do the work if wifey can’t handle the gore. I think she can. This cancer on my forehead has hung around like a bad odor. Just can’t seem to move on past it ... oh well. 💪💪💪💪🌵🌵🌵

SPEEDYX
SPEEDYX in reply to Kaliber

You will persevere a warrior fights my battles and claims victory with all the battle scars!!!!

Kaliber
Kaliber in reply to SPEEDYX

Yea .... I just tell them the scars are left over from motorcycle bar fights yayahahahaya.

✌️✌️✌️✌️

SPEEDYX
SPEEDYX in reply to Kaliber

You tell them and they listen🥊

Kaliber
Kaliber in reply to SPEEDYX

Yea that’s right .... better watch out yayahahahaya they’ll get tangled in my matted old yellow ( bromine Jacuzzi burn ) hippie pony tail or I’ll fall on them and then they’ll be sorry. Yayahahahaya. I do carry a Taser brand Pulse + and a lep flashlight as non lethal personal protection tho.

Just say’in 😂😂😂😂🌵🌵🌵

Whimpy-p
Whimpy-p in reply to Kaliber

I want a taser 😂

Kaliber
Kaliber in reply to Whimpy-p

Tasers are kewl but only deal with one perp at a time. Kinda expensive but legal in places where handguns aren’t. Nice for the wifey to carry in her handbag as well. Something else ... Google lep flashlights , specifically the weltool w4 and the acebeam w30 for a purse / pocket size and the acebeam w10 for the max effect. This technology is brand new, search those models in YouTube to see videos of what they can do. Great for self defense and alerting someone from a long distance.

Us decrepit old cancer guys can’t protect ourselves much from any perps ...easy prey in places. Both a taser and / or lep offer non lethal self defense ... legal everywhere. ( never shine a lep up into the sky or at a vehicle. )

Just say’in 💪💪💪✌️✌️✌️

Whimpy-p
Whimpy-p in reply to Kaliber

Brother I didn’t read this post until today? Omg brother . Scaring me . Mama Mia. Are you any better today ? Got to rid that infection. Wtf? Women are tuffer than men . This Is true . Though You’re one tuff bastard . I would have buckled along time ago with all that you e been through . Sorry you’re suffering so much 😩 Hope things improve 🙏😷

Kaliber
Kaliber in reply to Whimpy-p

Hey buddy , thanks for the nice thoughts . I appreciate it. Welp that thing on my forehead hasn’t gone anywhere ...... it’s ugly ... I am stuffing it full of clean gauze every day to keep it clean , it looks pretty nasty inside ... got a lab test back that says it not a bacterial infection. I just want to get this fixed and move on ... it just keeps hanging on like a life of its own. You’d think it was an awful infection, but lab says not bacterial ...guess it’s the skin cancer there out of control , dunno.

It’s like your post says buddy “ don’t worry ... be happy “ ...

💪💪💪👍👍👍🌵🌶

While we are here we can try to enjoy it. I allow myself 20 min/day to think about "IT" and then go on with my daily foibles. I find humor in most of my failings or make a game to overcome obstacles. I have found some very interesting ways of moving items up and down the stairs. No cameras please.

Whimpy-p
Whimpy-p in reply to Shepard

We do what we must ! ✌️

j-o-h-n
j-o-h-n in reply to Shepard

Sketches maybe?

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Tuesday 08/11/2020 8:49 PM DST

Whimpy-p
Whimpy-p in reply to j-o-h-n

Characters

Hmm...

Hey Scott, Great post!!

Varied discussions to the hilt and lots of good feedback!

Best,

AJ

There is so much suffering aboard APC ! More laughter is needed to balance the misery . Have a fine day westy ... 🌵😷