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It will probably surprise few of us that libido-reducing Firmagon has been found to be useful for treating pedophiles in a small Swedish study. They found that it had rapid onset of action (it is a direct GnRH antagonist). However, its effect on self-reported risk was far from complete, and we don't know if it will actually change behavior. It didn't increase their empathy or impulse control.

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I doubt that forcing them to have injections will be enough.

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Interesting!!

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erjlg3

I strongly think nothing will help..... but leaving the earth.

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I agree 1000% . Society should show no mercy on this one. Peace Jackie!😎

I'm guessing that there might be some who would gladly take the pill in exchange for avoiding a lengthy and unpleasant prison sentence. Compliance could easily be measured by periodic T tests. You might be on to something but the ACLU would likely oppose it strenuously.

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It's an injection, and it's very legal, but it's not a cure.

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It is not enough .

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Blackpatch

Kind of surprising to see this raised here, but have to admit it's a topic that crossed my mind more than once during Zoladex days... I'd previously wondered what the "chemical castration" one hears of as being applied to paedophiles really meant, and how compliance was monitored - but having experienced four of those three monthly injections, I came to the view that compliance would be no problem, and that the sentence would fit the crime quite well.

I don't know if this method is widely practised anywhere, but the biggest issue would surely be the inhumanity of subjecting men to almost certain depression and cardiovascular damage. I reckon ADT well and truly surpasses any "cruel and inhuman" punishment definition we could agree on.

Stuart

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I don’t think there is a punishment stiff enough for the pedophile..

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noirhole

Might bring our costs down from several thousand dollars to several hundred every6 months!

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Just chop the balls ..Shots are ridiculous .

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Currumpaw

Hey T_A!

Interesting! As much as what happens between the legs of pedophiles what happens between the ears leads to sexual assaults.

A functioning penis is desired but the sickness is mental, a psychopathology.

Removing one factor reduces the chances of aberrant behavior but I would never trust a child molester. It is also about control, being in a position of power in some cases or being unable to relate to those their own age in others.

Interesting though--thinking of some half remembered parts of old Woody Allen movies about how sex is dealt with in future societies--why did he come to mind?

Currumpaw

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😂😂

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Horse12888

If you Google this, you'll find that chemical castration for sex offenders is in use all over the world. It causes a reduction in sex crimes, since it removes libido, but it doesn't reduce the number to zero.

Yes, as suggested above, the ACLU is trying to ban its use in the U.S., arguing that it's tantamount to torture, but, predictably, they're running into the "get tough on crime" people.

I went on ADT about 6 months before IMRT; I needed to wait for radiation until the scars from another operation healed. When I met with my RO, he asked me how I was doing, and, through my tears I replied, "How the f*** do you think I'm doing? I got the same punishment that our society inflicts on our serial rapists and child molesters. I feel like s*** every second of every day. I desperately want to kill myself, but I can't because I have loved ones. At this point I understand this punishment, and yes, those bastards deserve it, but I didn't do anything wrong. I just want to f***ing die."

To my surprise, he was shocked to hear this. I didn't understand at the time that most men don't have SEs at the level I did.

Fortunately, I was able to get on antidepressants, and my T recovered nicely when I quit ADT half-way through my sentence.

Were not some rapist in the past offered a choice of freedom if they accepted castration? Seems cruel. Unless you knew there victims. Then I’d say off with the balls. I did it in hopes to thwart APC . Plus , I’m still on adt ... pedophilia is a crime that should revive the severest consequences. Castration is too good for them even . That’s a hard crime to be forgiven by any parent.

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Tommyj2

Depressing the ability to engage in sexual activity and to a lesser degree diminishing the urge addresses biological determinants but does little to mollify the psychological/behavioral determinants.......eg breaking an over eaters jaw will certainly diminish his ability to eat but does little to control the “root” causes of the behavior...... it works but it is far from a “cure”...... Still, a little is better than nothing

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j-o-h-n

Shoot... Now what am I going to do with my entire supply of lollipops?

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Friday 05/01/2020 2:10 PM DST

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Maybe you could trade them for the torches and pitchforks that seem to be in abundance.

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Spot on... except I think I'll keep the "All day suckers".....

youtube.com/watch?v=u8qDg4k...

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Saturday 05/02/2020 3:07 PM DST

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Gemlin_

I doubt that the idea is to force men with pedophilic disorder to take it. The idea must be to have something that can be given to help-seeking pedophiles and prevent those terrible crimes. What are the alternative treatments? Someone who thinks psychotherapy cures pedophile? No a chance.

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Chugach

A Mossberg is a cure! The goal for something that vile should be eradication of the ‘disease’

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PhilipSZacarias

Interesting. Lupron can be given in 3, 4 or 6 month shots which may be preferable. From my own experience, I have no desire for sex after 4 years of Lupron (and I love my wife even more). Multidrug therapy may be better. How about shock therapy or lobotomy...only half serious. As a condition of not being incarcerated, they should have no choice.

In the Merck Manual (Consumer Version) I found the following Drugs

Doctors in the United States usually use the following drug:

Medroxyprogesterone acetate, which is injected into a muscle

Medroxyprogesterone (a progestin) is similar to the female hormone progesterone.

An alternative is leuprolide.

Medroxyprogesterone and leuprolide stop the pituitary gland from signaling the testicles to produce testosterone. They thus reduce testosterone levels and the sex drive. Doctors periodically do blood tests to monitor the effects of these drugs on liver function, as well as other tests (including bone density tests and blood tests to measure testosterone levels). It is not clear how useful these drugs are in women who are pedophiles.

Antidepressants called selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) may also be helpful. They may help control sexual urges and fantasies. They also decrease the sex drive and may cause erectile dysfunction.

Drug treatment is more effective when it is combined with psychotherapy and training in social skills.

Drugs Mentioned In This Article

Generic Name Select Brand Names

Medroxyprogesterone

PROVERA

progesterone

CRINONE

leuprolide

LUPRON

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