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Heading to Heidelberg

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I submitted my online request for treatment yesterday, and in less than 24 hours, I was given an appointment for Lu177 treatment on Jan 31. That was much faster and easier than I expected. For those that have been treated at Heidelberg, could you please offer some travel advice?

Thanks in advance,

Rex

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cesces profile image
cesces

What caused you to choose Heidelberg over Bad Berka?

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Rexwaterbury in reply to cesces

Tall Allen told me that Dr Haberkorn is THE guy, and he is at Heidelberg. Also Dr Baum is no longer associated with Bad Berka. Also Heidelberg appears to be more accessible from Frankfurt , and they got back to me with the quickest appointment.

Honestly though, I think all of these German clinics offer the same treatment, more or less.

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GP24 in reply to Rexwaterbury

This is Prof. Baum's new address.

psmainfo.org/news/137-dr-ba...

Even closer to Frankfurt airport but the commuter train takes 45 minutes to Wiesbaden. A cab will need 20 minutes and it costs about 65 Euros.

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Tall_Allen in reply to cesces

GP24 said Dr Baum moved to Weisbaden anyway. Bad Berka is a shlep to get to.

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GP24

You fly to Frankfurt airport, in the airport building there is a train station. You take the train to Heidelberg which takes about an hour. You can buy a ticket at the machine before you enter the train. From the train station in Heidelberg you take a cab to the hospital.

From all of us that might follow in your footsteps someday with Lu177. Good luck . May you be cured .. 🙏🏼

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Blueslover in reply to

Best of luck

Keep us updated

Hugh

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Rexwaterbury

Not looking for a cure. A two year remission would be most welcome. I’m very interested to see if Dr Haberkorn will combine Lu177 with Ac225, and whether he will offer FAPI. Not sure if that is even available yet.

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Longterm101 in reply to Rexwaterbury

Keep us posted on the results

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snoraste in reply to Rexwaterbury

I'd be very curious what you can find out about FAPI. I was in Munich last week and was told they expect to offer it within a year.

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Rexwaterbury in reply to snoraste

I will keep all informed regarding the details of my treatment.

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lewicki in reply to Rexwaterbury

What is FAPI ?

Thanks

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Grumpyswife

That is so exciting and please keep us informed as we will be waiting for your report.

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mklc

wishing you all the very best and safe travels.

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tallguy2

Best wishes. May your proactive involvement in your care choices give you the years (or more) that you seek.

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snoraste

best wishes!

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Istomin

All best wishes!

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podsart

Good luck

Where did u get your PSMA test?

Did Dr Drake tell you his recommended option for you?

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Rexwaterbury in reply to podsart

Psma scan at UCLA. Dr Drake recommended either one of his immunotherapy trials vs Lu177 in Germany. He said there is more experience and safety with the Lu177 treatments. He usually refers to Bad Berka, but now that Dr Baum has left, I don’t know.

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podsart in reply to Rexwaterbury

Thanks

To be clear, he leaned more to the LU177 rather than his clinical trials because of the relative safety concerns?

Was it difficult to get PSMA in UCLA; I hear alternately that can get for about $3k or they are not offering it anymore outside a trial?

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Rexwaterbury in reply to podsart

That is correct. These immunotherapy treatments have an adverse side effect called cytokine release syndrome which can be quite dangerous. Also there is a longer track record for Lu177. Car-T and Regeneron are relatively novel treatments for prostate cancer.

It was very easy getting the Psma at UCLA. They send a referral request to your MO, and then they contact you as to whether you are a candidate. Wait time is just a few weeks. Cost is approximately $2800.

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podsart in reply to Rexwaterbury

Ps , did dr drake suggest taking a FDG scan in concert with the PSMA scan to assess PSMA avidity and if there might be non PSMA lesions present?

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Rexwaterbury in reply to podsart

No he did not. He felt the Psma scan could be compared with the recent ct and bs. Perhaps for more advanced disease with visceral Mets he might have recommended it. Heidelberg has not required an FDG scan either.

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podsart in reply to Rexwaterbury

Ok thanks

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podsart

Thanks

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skiland

What is the link of hospital and/or the email address to write them. Also, what is the cost there. It seems crazy how it can vary for it is basically the same treatment? Thanks! I probably will be following you there or ? shortly.

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Rexwaterbury in reply to skiland

ukhd.org. Treatment inquiry tab is at the bottom of the page. I just sent a payment by bank wire for 9800 euros, approximately $11,300.

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immunity1 in reply to Rexwaterbury

Rex, enjoy. It will be a breeze for you, compared to your chemo insults. =rob

Hey Rex! I’ve only been to Heidelberg twice as a young strong man. I had a beautiful trip each time. It’s the city of lovers they say. I’m sorry you’re not going on vacation there. Still , the castle is a wonderful view. Best of luck with lu-177 . May you get great results . I admire what you’re doing. I’m pulling for you . Good news for you could be good for me or others when needed. Thanks for posting. Please keep us up on events ?🙏 Best darn beer in Germany..

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mklc

ALL best wishes for a great result.

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captain2020

Can you give us update for Heidelberg LU177. I am interested in going soon! Thanks! How long do they require that you stay there.

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Rexwaterbury in reply to captain2020

Hospitalization for 48 hours. German law I understand.

I will give a full report. I really need some positive results as my disease has run amok since I finished chemo.

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skiland

Thanks. Wll look forward to reading more.

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skiland

Please let us know how it went and whether you would recommend it. Looking for best and most reasoable facility for LU-177. Thanks!

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