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Prednisone Dose for 1000 mg Zytiga (Abiraterone)?

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Just started Abiraterone on Friday and have been taking 5 mg prednisone 1x daily. Not sure where I got that dosing level but today I noticed the label on the prednisone bottle says 2x daily. Is there a preferred dosing level for prednisone? I’ve found both 5 mg 1x daily and 5 mg 2x daily on creditable sources online.

Thanks

Rand

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Tall_Allen

When taken for mHSPC, the dose is one 5mg capsule per day. If taken for mCRPC, the dose is two 5 mg capsules/day. Both are low doses for replacement of your natural cortisol depleted by the Zytiga. Replacement varies across individuals, so your oncologist may want to adjust up or down based on blood pressure and potassium levels.

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6357axbz in reply to Tall_Allen

Thanks once more TA. Why the difference?

Rand

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Tall_Allen in reply to 6357axbz

That's the way they designed the clinical trials that got abiraterone approved. Perhaps they thought that more steroid would be beneficial in more advanced cases?

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cesanon in reply to Tall_Allen

Why would the dose vary if you are taking the same dose of Zytiga?

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Hex40 in reply to cesanon

I was prescribed 2 5mg per day however the evening dose kept me from sleeping so bad that I went to 1 in the morning only.

in reply to Hex40

Same with ne, noticed the difference in just a few days...

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TEBozo in reply to Tall_Allen

Does 5 mg. make your face fat?

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Tall_Allen in reply to TEBozo

It's supposed to just replace the cortisol that Zytiga inhibits. It shouldn't have any side effects if it's the right dose.

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TEBozo in reply to Tall_Allen

Good news.

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Unusualmint45 in reply to TEBozo

Hi TEBozo

I've been on Zytiga plus 5mg/ day for 11 mo. and no side effects.

in reply to TEBozo

It made my body fat (+23 pounds), man had to start intermittent fasting per day and grab the battle ropes. I've worked from home for so long, that the other day had an office meeting, had to run out and get some pants that fits.

Bought a bunch with different sizes, have no patience for fitting rooms...

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6357axbz in reply to Tall_Allen

My MO confirmed today that for my stage 4 mHSPCa 5mg is his recommended dose, consistent with your advice and the info on the Zytiga website.

Perhaps some of you with similar disease characteristics as mine, who responded to my original post that you were taking 5mg prednisone 2x/day might want to rethink your dosage. Apparently some doctors automatically recommend 5mg 2x/day for folks starting out on Zytiga.

Thanks again for all of you who responded to my post on this subject.

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treedown in reply to 6357axbz

Mine did but I read the literature and told him and he said fine. Never changed it officially so Kaiser sent me double dosage for about 14 months. Good thing it's cheap.

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Magnus1964

I took 5mg of prednisone when I was on zytiga. My research doctor said that was the dosage to replace what zytiga takes out.

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6357axbz in reply to Magnus1964

Thanks to you Magnus, and to all the others who chimed in here, especially TallAllen. I find it very unique how, with this incurable (for now) disease, the experiences of other patients carry so much weight in how we navigate our treatment. It’s all a bit of a crapshoot.

Rand

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tallguy2

I very much appreciate your post. I am likely to start Zytiga in a week or two and your post has helped me be knowledgeable about the questions to ask, especially around the prednisone topic.

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noirhole

Two 5mg a day for me. Also had trouble sleeping so I take them both in the morning. No issues.

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gyancey in reply to noirhole

Boy I am glad I read this. I started taking my Prednisone a night for some reason and had a horrible time falling asleep. You have saved me a lot of sleepless nights!

Thanks for posting that tidbit.

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Unusualmint45 in reply to gyancey

I have taken zytiga for a year now and I take 5mg prednisone at the same time I take the zytiga. I guess they say you should take the prednisone with food because it's easier on your stomach, but so far I have had no problems.

This way I don't forget to take it.

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Unusualmint45 in reply to Unusualmint45

Also, I take the two together in the morning an hour before breakfast. Sorry forgot to mention.

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monte1111

Does 5 mg make your face fat? Funny. I know too much too long can give you moon face, and also you may be able to be a stand in for the Hunchback of Notre Dame. Oops. I guess that would be the Hunchback of Paris now. I am now weaning off of 10 mg for 19 months with Xtandi. Cut to 5 mg in Jan. and did notice increase in fatigue. Cut to one half 5 mg last Wed. and 3rd day out was like a trip back down chemo lane. Starting to feel much better now. My cortisol was not depleted because I was not taking Zytiga. Will take half pill for a month and then done with it. Quitting was at my request. Don't know why I was ever started on it. Was never on Zytiga. There are those here who have the answers that I do not. Good luck.

i take it 2x per day

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TommyTV

I’ve been on 5mg daily for 7.5 years. They taste bloody awful if you don’t get it down first go!

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Mathes72

That is what I took

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RangerTug

I am on Zytiga and have been since September 2017. I take 4 x 250 mg per day and 0.5 mg Dexmethsone per day.

I don't know what the difference is between Dexmethsone and Prednisone is. But I do remember queering my oncologist about the 0.5 mg dose when I had read others were on 5 mg of Prednisone. His reply was 0.5 Dexmethsone was correct.

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noirhole in reply to RangerTug

My wife said that dex made me a rude stand up comic. Everyone was a heckler.

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leo2634

I take 2 daily one after breakfast one at diner and 750 mg . Zytiga

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GoBucks in reply to leo2634

Why are you on 750 mg?

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leo2634 in reply to GoBucks

1000 mg. Was too much it was making my blood work out of whack so my Doctor cut it 750 and all numbers returned to normal. I am on this regiment 13 months now. So far so good. Leo

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GoBucks in reply to leo2634

Same thing happened to me. I stopped for 7 weeks. Then started 500 mg, then went to 750 mg. At 6 months now. Still zero PSA. I take 1 prednisone.

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DaC00tie

When I started 1000mg Zytiga I was also prescribed 5mg prednisone twice a day. I since changed oncologists and my current oncologist changed it to once a day. Like many others, to prevent it from affecting my sleep I take the prednisone in the morning. I’m not a doctor and I realize each persons situation is different. Therefore the best suggestion I can make is to discuss it with your doctor.

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PGDuan

I was started on 5mg 2 x day back in December. My liver enzymes ran up and I was feeling hungover so after a few weeks my MO reduced me to 5mg 1x day and I haven't had any issues ever since. Not sure how they calculate the dosage, but the 5mg hasn't caused any side effects I can notice. As TommyTV notes - be sure to get it down without tasting it!

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Cynthgob in reply to PGDuan

My husband’s face is fuller since start of 10 mg ores with 1000 zytiga . Been on it since the fall of 2018

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Luv2fish

Hubby took 5mg in the morning when he was on Zytiga. His onc was a researcher that had worked on Zytiga...

A very controversial topic when discussing the use of Prednisone with treatments for metastatic prostate cancer. And, in some cases, existing co-morbidities can be aggravated by use of any Corticosteroid.

In my case, I took 30 mg of Prednisone daily with other treatments. Dosage was 20 mg in morning and 10 mg twelve hours later. I took Prednisone for 180 days. I may be the only fit who has gained 80 pounds during chemotherapy.

I discussed the usage of Prednisone in the chemotherapy-hormone therapy trial I participated in during 2004. From my research medical oncologist: Prednisone is used in prostate cancer for its direct and indirect anti-cancer effects, including the lowering of prostate-specific antigen. Prednisone is also used for its quality-of-life benefits. It will help in appetite stimulation. I am sure they are other reasons and varying degree of dosage over, again varying length of time.

Side effect: weight gain. Benefit: killing the little bastards.

There is no substitute for not following advice from your pro. Everybody is different.

Gourd Dancer

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johnscats

Here in Ireland they have reduced the steroids dose to 1 a day across the board it's apperently the new norm here

in reply to johnscats

But you guys wash it down with a pint of Guiness...Lucky bastards.

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