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Long Term Vegetarian Diet Promotes Cancer and Heart Disease

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God provided meat and eggs and early humans ate plenty of both. IMO meat and eggs are not inherently bad...what is bad is the way the animals are kept and fed. Cows kept in staunches where they can not even turn around and then fattened in feed lots....chickens kept in cages where they can not move...and to top it off the animals are pumped full of steroids and antibiotics...how can the meat and eggs be healthy and also the animals produce a lot of stress hormones because of their living conditions. The way to go is free range grass fed beef without hormones and feed lots and eggs from free range chickens that are free to roam and eat bugs + a salad at dinner with Gator Blood as a salad dressing.

Gus

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Understanding the conclusiveness of studies is a complicated matter. Many variables may be involved that will differ between different studies, and one must fully understand exactly what the study has indicated. We who do not have medical educations will tend to misunderstand subtleties of what is being said, and may not know how to interpret each study in the context of what other studies have tried to determine.

Gusgold’s article is from a couple of years ago - here is one published this month that views vegetarian diets in a more favorable light:

“Patterns of plant and animal protein intake are strongly associated with cardiovascular mortality: the Adventist Health Study-2 cohort”

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/267...

I have access to the full text of the article. Over 81,000 individual’s records were examined. Here are a few quotes from the article:

“In the present study, a thorough analysis of specific protein dietary factors, derived by factor analysis, disclosed clearly contrasting associations of specific animal and plant protein factors on CVD outcomes. Our results show that high scores on the ‘Meat’ protein factor are associated with increased risk of CVD mortality, whereas high scores on the ‘Nuts & Seeds’ protein factor are associated with lower risk…Specific characteristics and lifestyles of the population, different types of dietary substitution and the background diets have made it difficult to clearly ascribe benefits to the type and source of protein and likely contributed to the lack of conclusive evidence relating animal and plant protein consumption to CVD risk…These results emphasize that general statements about plant or animal protein may lack specificity, and that greater consideration of specific protein food sources and patterns is required, as had been proposed by some authors. Specific characteristics and lifestyles of the population, different types of dietary substitution and the background diets have made it difficult to clearly ascribe benefits to the type and source of protein and likely contributed to the lack of conclusive evidence relating animal and plant protein consumption to CVD risk.”

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thevvy

Hey Nal ... do ya reckon me missus could make med into a handbag? That way I could still go shoppin with her and make sure she does't spend too much!!!

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Magnus1964

I am always skeptical and ask who sponsored the research. But I do believe you are right. If you HAVE to eat meat, then go the grass fed organic approach. I have been a vegetarian for 25 years. In the last 15 years I have added fish, some eggs and a little dairy in the form of cheese. All wild caught fish, organic eggs and cheese.

How do you know what God intended?

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j-o-h-n

As for me I'm always looking out free range women...YiPPEE I OHHH

Good Luck and Good Health.

J-o-h-n Monday 04/16/2018 2:06 PM EDT

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thevvy

Yeah ... That'll do it ... a clear plastic one .... that way they'll just give us the goods to get rid of me ...hahahaha

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gusgold

Bruce,

stop promoting BS

Gus

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Emak1

At the end of the day, the best diet is prob what I learned in health, 4 decades ago in middle school. Have a bit of each of the major food groups

Next, eat normal portions. US portions are astronomical compared to other countries and the calories your supposed to consume

Eat in moderation, meaning, yeah have some lean red meat once and a while, but not every day.

Big thing in the modern age, don't eat the 'refined' and 'processed' food. A nice 5 or 6 oz filet can be healthy, but not if it is stuffed with steroid, growth hormones, etc. Eating an apple that has natural sugars is different than a few sour patch kid gummies.

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GeorgesCalvez

I suspect that one of the reasons for prostate cancer is the background level of chemicals like chlordecone.

This and many other chemicals were sprayed around for decades so many men now in their fifties or later have long periods of exposure.

It is worthy of note that men in Gaudeloupe, an island heavily contaminated with chlordecone and other agrochemicals, have one of the highest prostate cancer rates in the world.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlor...

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