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Combination Of Chemotherapy And Methadone

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Hi everyone.

We recently heard from my aunt who is a GP in Germany about a combination of Chemotherapy and D, L Methadone which is very promising.

The D, L Methadone has to be especially manufactured. The dose is very low and has nothing to do with the dose used for drug substitution.

It was first discovered by Dr. Claudia Friesen, Oncologist and Chemist at the University of Ulm, that Chemotherapies work better when this low dose of Methadone is used.

Of course she went public with her findings. One doctor, Dr. Hillscher, took an interest in this and has been prescribing Methadone to his cancer patient for the past couple of years.

Of course there are no studies or clinical trials. The evidence is only anecdotal. However, in all cases they were able to report a dramatic decrease in mets, even in patients with brain cancer who had previously been told that they would not have more than a couple of months to live - three years on from that the lady who was shown in the report on ARD television, the public tv station, is still alive and her scans don't show cancer activity at all.

My husband and I spoke to our doctors here who, of course, are sceptcial and say that Methadone can only be prescribed as a very strong pain killer. We told them and emailed them the findings from Germany. And we are now hoping to be able to give it a go.

Just thought I would put it out there. You can google all this information.

Mel.

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mklc

Good morning.

Are there any support groups or prostate cancer help lines in Germany?

If you know of any, I would appreciate the information.

Thank you so much.

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MelaniePaul in reply to mklc

Unfortunately, I don't know of any. We are investigating this ourselves at the moment.

Te email address for the Methadone lady in Ulm is

cf-methadon-krebs@uni-ulm.de

but I have emailed them a good number of times now with no reply.

My husband and I would really like to try this, and if it is not available here or through the doctors here then we would like to get it from Germany.

Mel.

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mklc in reply to MelaniePaul

Hi Mel,

I goggled for Germany help lines for prostate cancer and found this phone number:

For calls from abroad and from domestic and foreign mobile phone networks , the chargeable phone number was used

+49 (0) 228-28 645 645

furnished.

The support groups can be very helpful (as you probably already know).

I just spoke to Prostate Cancer UK help line about using zytega and they were great.

It usually takes a bit of investigation as you probably know already!!

Best wishes for a good and positive outcome for your dear husband.

Warm regards,

Marguerite

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Neal-Snyder

Hi Mel,

If your oncologists are like ours, you won't get something that hasn't gone through clinical trials, unless you get it in a clinical trial. I hope this works out for Paul (in Germany, I would imagine). Please keep us posted!

Neal

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Holger1970

Hello,

I am from Germany and my wife got the pancreas diagnosis in July 2017. I searched aswell the internet after watching the report on ARD TV.

There is an english report on DW TV Deutsche Welle TV, the german external service formerly known as Deutsche Welle Radio on shortwave.

Google/ search:

fighting cancer with methadone.

There you are going to find the english report about Dr. Claudia Friesen...

My wife got immediately D,L-Methadone from our doctor. Our doctor gaves it officially as a pain killer, but also knowing it could be a booster during a Chemotherapy. Every doctor is allowed in Germany to give D,L-Methadone as a pain killer. But it is still very difficult also in Germany to find a doctor who gives this D,L-Methadone to their patients.

So, we are quite lucky.

But, D,L-Methadone is not a ready to buy product in Germany. It has to be made at the Apotheke/ Chemist.

D,L-Methadone does not work alone, it has to be taken during a Chemotherapy.

My wife is doing fine at the moment. Methadone only gives little problems such as to go to the WC, but there is also a medication to help.

But, every pain killer gives problems to go to the WC...

Methadone does not give problems to the Liver and also not to the Kidney.

Very important: It has to be started at a very low dosis. The maximum dosis should be total 35mg a day, if possible. Means at the morning and at the evening... each time 17.5mg = 1.75ml = 35 drops.

But it starts with 5mg at the very beginning!!!! = 2x 2.5 mg (1x morning & 1x evening) . After 4 days the 5th day + 2.5mg a day, means ... + 1.25mg each time at the morning and the evening.

Little by little, a bit more until a maximum dosis of 35mg per day, taken half... 17.5mg at the morning and 17.5mg at the evening.

If Methadone is taken with a Chemotherapy the patient has to see the doctor for the weekly control and if there is a problem.

Or Oncologist has no problem that my wife takes D,L-Methadone with the Chemotherapy.

D,L-Methadone has to be taken every day, aswell at the days where is no Chemotherapy.

There is no guarantee that it works. There is no guarantee of healing.

Every patient and every cancer is different. But there is nothing to loose, isn't it?

By the way, take your time if you have written en e-mail to Dr. Claudia Friesen. She gets around 200 e-mails a day from the german speaking countries Germany, Austria, Switzerland, aswell as in english from all around the world. It takes time to answer every e-mail!!!

claudia.friesen@uni-ulm.de

All the best of health to everyone.

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Est1990

Any news? have u been able to get the methadone here in the US?

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