Updated Info Regarding BIRM

When I first introduced BIRM, there was some skepticism, as not much information was available. Some here thought it a bit pre-mature, as there were no USA studies, or Clinical Trials. We did know that the University of Miami was granted Seed Money by the NIH. So at least someone/someone's thought there was some value. I stated that I was not recommending its use to anyone, that I was going to give it a try, to improve energy and reduce fatigue. So far it appears, after 9 days to be doing just that. My afternoon naps have disappeared!

NOW FOR NEW INFO

So I started digging into the claimed anti-cancer benefits, looking for info especially as to Pca. On 7/3/07 BIRM was granted a USA Patent, or the developers were, is more correct.

The plant base has been well known as a treatment for cancer in Ecuador. Studies in Rats, have shown that BIRM stops Prostate Cancer dead.

The Plant extract contains antitumor compounds with potent antiproliferative in Vitro, and in Vivo, against Prostate Cancer Cells. YOU CAN FIND THIS IN: Cancer Chemotherapy and Pharmacology: Volume 52 number 1/July 2003 59

Patent # is 7,250,180---reveals more of the story disclosing methods and compositions useful in treating Prostate Cancer. Also disclosed are methods for preparing compositions for administration to Humans for treating Prostate Cancer

The full statement and details can be read in full by going to our Govt. and looking up Patent 7,250,180 to read the statements in full.

AS AN ASIDE, I had resources that I completely missed! These resources were the 55 people who on Amazon gave the BIRM product 5 Star Reviews. So I sent out a Question to all users. The Question I asked. HAS ANYONE USING BIRM FOR CANCER, HAD THEIR CANCER PUT INTO REMISSION OR CURED? So far I have gotten back 5 responses. One cure for inoperable Lung Cancer, one cure for inoperable Kidney Cancer, one cure for Prostate Cancer, and a remission for Colon Cancer, and Melanoma.

That speaks volumes. I asked them to send me if they could send their dose rates/amounts, and their time frames of use. I expect more info, to come in from users.

Again I am just reporting, and still do not recommend the use of BIRM. As I tell here many times I am not a Doctor but play one at home. I hope the above information is useful.

Nalakrats

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  • Thank you for your dedication and professional research.

  • My Pleasure---This has become a Ministry for me. Hope to provide information for years while fighting my own disease.

    Nalakrats

  • What you are doing certainly works for me. My brain has stopped sleeping completely and my Oncologist dreads my visits! Next Torquemada session is May 9. I have a number of questions that she and her team must answer.

  • Have fun. I enjoy my tete a tete, meetings with my Docs.

    Nalakrats

  • Scruffy: How do you handle that "oncologist dread"? I felt I was almost escorted out of his office a few weeks ago. When I mentioned nitroglycerine patches, he admitted he hadn't heard AND WAS NOT INTERESTED IN READING THE PAPER i HAD! I know, I know, change MDs

    herb

  • First question you ask when getting an Oncologist is: Are you a believer and a participant in Integrative Medicine---this is a signal that both Homeopathy, and Oncology, are not mutually separate, and are used together where appropriate---and this includes alternative medicine.

    I insisted on this, everyone should. Or you keep looking!

    Nalakrats

  • Looking forward to hearing more!

  • I am looking forward to hearing from actual uses. Outside of this, I think I have exhausted all I can find on it. Understand if you can in Spanish, get into Ecuadorian Internet. So I continue to use---have more energy, is all I can report. Others with measurable PSA's if using, can measure. Again I am not recommending use.

    Nalakrats

  • I'm going to order it.

    Ordered the BIRM yesterday, $83 for two 240 ml bottles. I read other info on it, and why it's not on store shelves is beyond me. The history of it reads like a spy novel. Nobody wanted to give up on the secrecy of the plant itself.

    Joe

  • Since I have about 10 days on it, feel free to ask me questions, about use and what to expect. If you have a measurable PSA, I would do a 30 day PSA, to evaluate. I cannot, as I am undetectable. Again Joe, I am reporting and not recommending use. But I have had an increase in energy less fatigue, and my wife who had a terrible crud for 8 days passed it to me, and it was knocked out in 12 hours. Amazing.

    Nalakrats

  • Nal, why don't you think you're seeing a placebo effect? Psychological effect? Hey, either way, it's working! I am a chemist and will be checking the patent; maybe I can shed some light on it. But I remain pessimistic, or at least skeptical. :-)

    herb

  • I am a Published Chemist in Food Science, with 50 years of Natural Healing. Certain identified found chemicals I listed in a previous post, completed by An Alabama Certified Lab. And it has not killed anyone, that I can tell. And when you have live users email you with their positive results, regarding remissions, I felt safe to experiment. And I keep telling people I am not recommending this, just reporting. Mature adults, even those looking for a life line can make their own decisions.

    And I have reported increased energy, where my afternoon naps have been mostly eliminated. And my wife passed to me a really bad crud, she has been fighting it for 9 days--really bad. It attacked me and disappeared on its own in 12 hours without any other assistance. I was coughing up green/yellow, and 12 hours later it just went bye bye. And I have reported on this, though not as dramatically, before.

    Nalakrats

  • It will be close to 30 days on BIRM for me when i have next PSA test. I am dosing as recommended. 1ml 3x daily? Should I dose higher? Joe_Kam...what dosing at?

  • If you have the modulator --it is 2 mls ---2 to 3 times a day. At your dosage---which I do not know how you got to 1 ml, ---you may not have affected your PSA, but we do not know. That is why this BIRM is experimental for some of us, and why we call it Gator Blood.

  • I ordered the BIRM from Amazon. One eyedropper full is 1ml. I also have a syringe. So it 2mls. Ok. Thx

  • Thank you so much for sharing this. It is something we are definitely going to look into. Since we still haven't heard from the hospital in Germany and since my husband has very low energy-levels at the moment and we assume that Aberaterone stops working, it might be something worth exploring right now.

  • I am just providing info--no cures. But so far I personally have a good feel for what little information that can be obtained, and to go with it actual users, claiming remissions, of different cancers, who have communicated to me directly. Out of 55 users, only 5 responded.

    There appears to be a lot of info in Ecuador, But I have not been able to hook into it. So it is just one of those shots in the dark, but I like what I feel so far.

    Nalakrats

  • Nal,

    I also noticed increased energy. I have been using Gator Blood for about a week...yesterday I was swimming in my pool and I can now stay submerged for 60 minutes before coming up for air.

    Gus

  • I think you meant 60 seconds.

    Nalakrats

  • No 60 minutes...I also have a craving for raw meat

  • Under water for 60 minutes means you have gills and are subject to being eaten by my Gator.

    Nalakrats

  • Have you grown a hard carapace and giant teeth?

  • How long has he been on Abiraterone?

  • He has been on Aberaterone since June 2014. It is slowly losing effect. So now either Chemo or LU177, popular in Germany at the moment, and at the moment we are researching other things to try. So Birm sounds really interesting. In a way...

  • Thanks. My Onco started me on Zoladex 3 years ago and still on it. After 11 months had 10 cycles chemo no probs. 5 month break (still with Zoladex) and Abiraterone since Sept '16. PSA now 0.04. Next tests May 9.

    My lead Onco responsible for 7 London hospitals and for the Stampede trial. She's great, hard but realistic. Look first I suggest to tried and tested.

  • Go to Amazon, plug in BIRM, and read the comments of the 5 Star reports, by individuals. Many used while on Chemo--claiming reduction of the bad effects of Chemo. So there seems to be a bit of a protocol to use in combo with Chemo--Lu-177 is radiation. Do not know much about it, as the expert is in NYC. Forgot his name. But popularity is increasing.

    Nalakrats

  • Nal, I just quickly looked at the patent. A lot of it is fluff used to cover all bases in case it does work; not uncommon! The one human example, no. 22, I think, is so involved/convoluted with conventional treatments that I wouldn't try to analyze it without a lot more info. There is also a passing note concerning toxicity, about half way down in the examples in the patent, that concerns me. It suggested to me that Max dose may be close to toxicity, which is often a problem with cancer drugs. Separately, the dose given to rats seems to be high, but I'd need to have more info about the amount of actives in the 1ml injection.

    I tried to access the Birm.com website, but couldn't. Were you able? How/where were you able to buy the product? Online? I haven't had a chance yet; are there other BIRMs in use/research?

    Herb S.

  • There is a concentrate of this product used in Ecuador for bad cases of cancer, that is 7 fold, in strength. It is hard to get, you have to get it from Ecuador.

    I buy mine at Amazon---the first one that shows up---this one is the Modulator of the Immune System, the 2nd one is a booster. All people who used BIRM on Amazon, I asked for them to give me their stories of success---out of 55, 5 star reviews, I only got back 5--all had remissions. Some posters go back to 2007, and 2011, they could have died of old age by now. It is a crap shoot no doubt. But there is something fishy, as how the money to further research, this at the U. of Miami, got obtained from the NIH. I do not trust the Gov't. I had too many wars with the FDA, and seen Drug companies influence decisions, or prevent them.

    And Gusgold reported in tonight indicating he is feeling increase of energy. So I go on--My Geneticist is working on finding me a specific blood test I am looking for. It is rare. It deals with Nano Chip counters, placed in a flow of blood stream, that counts cancer cells/liter.

    Nalakrats

  • Hi Nal! Is this BIRM the atiflammatory? I know you're not a doc. I'm wondering if women use this also. I have make inflammation and continue to search for safer anti flam in place of predisone. Thanks for all you do ;)

  • I use Zyflamend[New Chapter] for inflammation reduction. Also use of Curcumin reduces inflammation, and I also use. And the Discoverer of BIRM claims that BIRM reduces inflammation. My C-Reactive Protein---measure of inflammation---- was already Zero, before I started experimenting with BIRM. I am still not recommending it, as the info is sketchy, but positive, and I am experimenting on myself, for the killing of micro-metastasis. But, have not found a way yet to measure. Working on it though. But no doubt there is an energy uptick, after a week.

    Nalakrats

  • Thanks so much Nalakrats. My C reactivery protein is always elevated. I'll keep an eye out on BIRM. I've been using Curcumin for over a year and will continue. Wish you all good :)

    Jackie

  • I think Zyflamend is a big reducer of inflammation. I do not have empirical proof---but I freshly took it for 8 weeks before my blood test. Not proof, but enough to scratch your head.

    Nalakrats

  • Nalakrats,

    Do ypu take 2 or 3 Zyflamends per day?

    Rich

  • Actually 4--2 with Breakfast and 2 with dinner.

    Nalakrats

  • Thank you for your reply.

    Rich

  • you can buy BIRM concentrate at their site but $126.00 wow! I read a post from a woman in Ecuador and she said over there it goes for $14.00 US a bottle. They have big Gators in Ecuador..Nalakrats should go there and bring back a couple cases of BIRM concentrate

    Gus

  • I use to travel there every 6 weeks when working, I can try to see if my agent, who worked for me in Ecuador, is still around, and can buy and ship to me. I hated the fights to Ecuador. Atlanta to Miami, to Quito. I will put out some emails, and see if I can get.

    Nalakrats

  • Nal,

    we need the concentrate...thats the one that kills cancer cells

    Gus

  • Can you imagine, a taste 7 times more nasty. I got first email out to Ecuador.

    Nalakrats

  • Should make a good tenderizer for gator meat

  • My current situation is a Rising PSA; I am on no treatment and take no drugs other than baby aspirin and 5 mg Lipitor.

    I had RP 06/11 w/ PSA undetectable result, PSA Relapse (0.2) 11/13, completed 38 Rad Sessions 9/15 with PSA undetectable result, now PSA to 0.1 2/17. Found this forum and another and put together an extensive supplement program which I started March 01 and then added BIRM on 4/17.

    I sound like a good candidate to watch for BIRM effectiveness except if my PSA does not raise or maybe goes back to undetectable there will be too many other reasons this may have happened. Radiation last gasp PSA spike, megadosing of Vitamin D/K-2 or possible effectiveness of the other supplements I am taking.

    I am scheduled for my next PSA test on May 03rd and results a week later. I will update my result to this string. Please note that I am a risk taker and would never advise or condone my use of supplements to anyone.

  • I have a bigger problem, I am still undetectable. But, my Docs. claim that whatever I am taking--my ADT-5, and a multitude of targeted supplements, is keeping my nasty Pathology in check. BIRM can go after Dormant Sleeping Pca cells, according to the Inventor's Literature. So I am seeking a way to measure dormant cells in the blood, One method, very new, is to put a nano chip filter screen in a vessel and count the cells, as they come by. I have my Geneticist, and Onc. looking for me. Sounds expensive if we find it. So far my energy increase and fatigue reduction is occurring. And that may be all I get.

    Nalakrats

  • No supplement I know of has ever lowered PSA...so if your PSA goes down near 100% chance it is the BIRM

  • Gus, Good to know. Only other reason I heard PSA might go down without treatment would be a detection of PSA from a mutating cell dying from the radiation.

  • That is what I hope your use will show after 30 days.

    Nalakrats

  • Kenny's PSA had started to climb last summer from .03 in June (immediately after ADT) to 1.6 in September. He started on bloodroot pills (Black salve) and his PSA immediately dropped to 0.2, where it remained for 3 months, without further ADT. It is now climbing again, in spite of the pills. However it DEFINITELY caused his PSA to drop for about 4 months. None of the other supplements that we have tried have shown this effect.

  • streaker,

    that is a very good result as I have never come across a supplement that lowered PSA

    Gus

  • We have one who responded on Amazon, taking BIRM, that claims complete cure. He may be from Ecuador, having used the 7X version---that you have to get directly from Ecuador. I have an agent in Ecuador, that use to work for me. You can buy down there over the counter at the Pharmacy. But Ecuadorian Law limits the amount of times you can purchase. Wonder what that is all about. I hear, you can get BIRM, for 14 Dollars down there.

    I am working on this.

    Nalakrats

  • Although I enjoy increased energy and fatigue reduction I of course am hoping for the death of the sleepers. Best wishes and thanks for this information and your good work. I would be less hopeful without it.

  • I am working on a particular Nano-Chip Blood test. The chip goes in a vessel and counts cancer cells, regardless if they are sleeping or not. This very brand new, and I cannot nail it down, as to where, and how, and who pays.

    Waiting on an email.

    Nalakrats

  • Hey Nal,

    I also read the five negative responses, bad taste, no shit, it a freakin root. But in the literature that is available, its states plain as day that it doesn't inhibit all types of cancer cells. So, it may not work for everybody. For $83 I can try it and see for myself.

    Joe

  • 47 dollars at Amazon. I am working on info as to a 7 fold concentrate available only directly from Ecuador. I have ex-agents that worked for me living down there. One respondent says, it cured or put his Pca in remission. So I do not know--I am just adding it for the energy boost, and the reduction of fatigue right now. Some of the respondents said it knocked out the side effects of chemo. Something to think on.

    Nalakrats

  • of the 55 users who tried BIRM on Nals rec, there are 5 positive replies...for some crazy reason the other 50 users traveled to Florida..jumped in a Gator infested lake and tried to mate with a female gator, even though they were on ADT and couldn't get it up...naturally they were torn to shreds screaming Nalakrats you dirty SOB

    Gus

  • Some of the original posters posted 8 years ago and more. The newest was I thing 2014. They could have died from Gator Old Age, or after the BIRM, killed their cancer, the BIRM, then Mummified them. Anyway 5 have survived with good results.

    Nalakrats

  • By the way my Geneticist just emailed me and said there are companies that can measure circulating Tumor cells in the blood, so I am waiting on names. If not too expensive, I would have a way to measure BIRM's effect also. Expect the test is thousands. for that if that much I would rather not know.

    Nalakrats

  • Nal,

    Measuring circulating tumor cells has been around for awhile...good chance your ins will pay for it. When I take the BIRM in about 5 minutes I get real hot and start to sweat...you have anything like that

    Gus

  • Well Hells Bells I did not know---I understand I might be able to measure dormant cells. If you take it with a half full belly of food, I eliminate the effects that you get. I got the same initially, a warm feeling going up the side of my head, and breaking out in a bit of brow sweat. It certainly lets you know it is doing something. Might kill a Gator.

    Nalakrats

  • Nal,

    check this out...this is common on BAT after 6 months

    Gus

    healthunlocked.com/advanced...

  • Nal,

    remember that study on gator meat and PCa

    search.proquest.com/openvie...

    I just ordered some gator meat..gonna take it with Gator Blood

    cajungrocer.com/farm-pride-...

    Gus

  • Quest Laboratories, has a test that measures CTC's[Circulating Tumor Cells]. It counts cells per 7.5 Mls. You want to be less than 5 is all I know. Going to ask my Uro in May or my Onc. in June to do the test.

  • Hi everyone.

    I have a friend here in Dublin who is a GP and originally from Spain. I will let her have a look for us. She will even be able to translate the website for us and so forth. And as to the price, well, if we could get the stuff directly from them, that would be great. I don't mind what it costs, as long as it makes my husband get better or stay well longer.

  • If you know someone in Ecuador, who can buy it there, it is 14 dollars. But I also understand, that citizens are limited to how much they can buy per year.

    Nalakrats

  • Hi again.

    We too have our next appointment with the oncologist on 9 May 2017. We have a list of things here that we want to ask him regarding Chemotherapy, further hormone treatment and his opinion on LU177. We are also excited to see what the result of yesterday's PSA test is going to be as Paul has been on this cellular complex from DoTerra for a while now. If the PSA level hasn't decreased or if it has even gone up, we will stop this cellular complex and try something else, possibly Birm or something else along those lines. We would love if the doctors from Germany got back to us about LU177, but we haven't heard anything yet. You certainly wouldn't want to be in a hurry! It is incredibly disappointing! So everything is still very open and uncertain at this point. But I want to say that this forum gives me so much hope that there are things out there we can try, things we haven't even heard of yet, research on stuff we are not aware of... Yes, there is hope. We just have to keep looking and, perhaps, even trying.

  • If you go to Google and Search LU-177 you will find one sight indicating a doctor in Manhattan, who is using this extensively. I cannot remember his name but Adam, something rings a bell. And there is a telephone number where you can call his office, and start a communication. I have a friend in Florida, who has made contact.

    Nalakrats

  • My PSA result received today of 0.1 was the same as it was 3 months ago. Been taking BIRM for 3 weeks prior to the test. It will be interesting to see what my next PSA Test shows. I am taking every supplement I can find for Pca and on a high dose of Vitamin D3 (30,000 i.u.) plus K2 as well. My last increase from 0.1 to 0.2 was 11 months; hoping to beat that period this time.

  • Would love to see your next one to be <.1---which is considered undetectable. I believe by intuition, that if BIRM is effective, it may take a couple of months--Betting it keeps you where you are in check.

    Nalakrats

  • Definitely hoping for undetectable next round. I will stick with my daily supplement regimen along with daily BIRM and report back in 90 days. Thanks and hope all is well with you.

    Moe

  • On a fishing vacation--so all is well when I can fish 10 hours a day.

    Nalakrats

  • Good fishing! Hope you catch the limit!

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