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Does anyone else get memory problems from bisoporol, I was fine on it but this past 4/5 months I’m having really bad memory problems and bouts of tearfulness and it’s very upsetting. Is there and alternative beta blocker that does not affect memory or would calcium channel blockers be better and what’s the side affects with those.

I’ve posted a few times and no one has answered, I would be very grateful if some advice could be thrown my way please.

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No personal experience because I do not tolerate beta blockers, however, as a class of drugs, they are often associated with memory loss.

Definitely something to speak to your doctor about -- and yes, a calcium channel blocker like Diltiazem may be a good alternative.

Jim

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Electricblue1 in reply to mjames1

Thank you , can you drink on calcium channel blockers.

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mjames1 in reply to Electricblue1

Exerpt below from the NHS UK website, but I would double check with your doctor.

Yes, you can drink alcohol with diltiazem. However, it's best to not drink alcohol for a few days after starting diltiazem or if your doctor increases your dose. Wait until you know how the medicine affects you.

Drinking alcohol can increase the blood pressure-lowering effect of diltiazem, which can make you feel dizzy or light-headed

Jim

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jeanjeannie50

My memory has become really bad too and I blame it on two things:

My beta blocker Metoprolol (stopped taking my morning one recently and feel so much more alive).

The low strength sleeping tablets I've been taking for years.

Of course it could just be me getting older!

Jean

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Electricblue1 in reply to jeanjeannie50

Hi Jean, I’ve been on it a while now and had no side effects apart from hair thinning but all of a sudden I’m getting memory loss here and there and it’s really distressing. Do all beta blockers do it or are there some beta blockers that don’t cause memory loss.

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jeanjeannie50 in reply to Electricblue1

I'm seeing my GP in June to discuss trying a different beta blocker. Will let you know if I get good results from a different pill

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pip_pip

Hi. I've been on Bisoprolol for very very long time,and wouldn;t be without it, and it does/can affect my thinking at times, but I never noticed any memory loss which I associated with it.

Might not be Bisoprolol related. ? Worth checking I think, much as we don't want to.

Phil

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Electricblue1 in reply to pip_pip

Hi, I called the arrhythmia nurse and she confirmed it is bisoprolol. I get times at work when I just can think straight and get forgetful.

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I don't know if there is a correlation however I am indeed forgetting names, I tend to run through them when in bed, whole casts of tv soaps lol so, it could be Bisoporal, or it could be any of the other drugs I am taking or it could just be old age. It might be an idea to run this by your GP/Pharmacist or cardiologist, I have found pharmacists very knowledgeable as they are dealing with drugs all day long and know the contraindications and yes, there are alternatives that can be taken.

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Electricblue1 in reply to opal11uk

Am I correct in thinking the only other alternative is calcium channel blockers.

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opal11uk in reply to Electricblue1

This is a discussion you need to have with your specialist/GP/Pharmacist because sometimes its a case of trial and error, what suits and what doesn't, we are all different, I am ok on the drugs I take at the moment and I think I mentioned I tried to reduce mine quite a bit and ended up in perm.A/F and heart failure so, I personally, would not recommend self medicating so go through your medical team and they will give professional advice. Good luck x

Hi, this query has surfaced a few times on here. I replied as follows to someone about a month ago - "I too noticed a quite profound loss of memory a couple of years back. I often complete the various General Knowledge crosswords in the papers but found that things I definitely knew, I couldn't recall the word or name. Infuriating! I looked in to the many meds I was taking at the time, including (the 'max' dose of 10mg of) Bisoprolol and asked for this to be reduced. It was agreed that 5 would be sufficient, but over time, I titrated this down to nil. My Cardio Specialist was relaxed about this, and my memory improved noticeably, and with no change to my permanent but asymptomatic AF, which I ignore now. So, maybe ask the question of your EP."Naturally, these drugs affect people in different ways but it's certainly worth investigating an alternative and see if your memory improves. Good luck

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Electricblue1 in reply to WhitstableWanderer

I have symptoms with my AFIB and it can be quite bad and I drive a lorry, I’ve been getting lost a lot lately and it never used to happen on bisoprolol. I am going thrall of stress at the moment so don’t know if that would affect the way the pills are. I wish I could come of all my medication .

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Vonnegut

As we have found, we are all different! The lowest dose of Bisoprolol was too much for me to take daily so I was told to stop it by the pharmacist who showed more interest than the doctor at my surgery, after only three days! I was prescribed Flecainide by an EP we saw privately, after I had acquired a smartphone and Kardia and sent him a reading of my heart in AF, to take as a PIP and later to take regularly twice daily when it has prevented episodes so I no longer take anticoagulants which all disagreed with me as I am not at risk of stroke if not having AF episodes. We are all different though and hope you find what works for you

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Electricblue1 in reply to Vonnegut

I too come off my blood thinners as they say I don’t need it yet and had a bad accident while on them and had internal bleeding and it scared me. I still get regular problems with my AFIB but the arrhythmia nurse said it was ok, I am thinking of taking a natural blood thinner.

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Vonnegut in reply to Electricblue1

An arrhythmia nurse! We don’t seem to have any of those round here. The EP we saw said that one was only at risk of stroke if an atrial fibrillation episode went on for a long time with a high heart rate and that only happened to me after I’d gone to a spa with sauna etc which I wouldn’t have done had I known I had a heart condition! It was the day I finally got diagnosed! An older friend of mine nearly died as she had been put on the full dose of an anticoagulant rather than the half dose which is appropriate for older people, had a lot of internal bleeding and then had problems with a blood transfusion, and nearly died. I always read the information leaflet and that said that older people should be on the half dose. When I pointed that out, she told her doctor who told her to thank me!!

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Electricblue1 in reply to Vonnegut

I was on Edoxoban and originally on 30mg which I was happy with but they told me it was not strong enough to do its job and put me on 69mg which is when the problems started. What is half dose in mg .

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Vonnegut in reply to Electricblue1

34 and a half!Weird! Difficult to ut in half that accurately!

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