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Helicobacter Pylori is it connected to thyroid?

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I have a very uncomfortable burning pain in my chest which spreads to my breasts, and my sternum burns if I press on to it. I also belch a lot. This morning I had an endoscopy, and a biopsy from my stomach. All was fine except that I am positive for helicobacter pylori.

Would like to know if anyone else with low thyroid/no thyroid has this, and how they treated it? Also is it connected to thyroid conditions? Would welcome any opinions please?

Thank you

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Heloise

Yes, I think it is according to Dr. Clarke and functional medicine.

youtube.com/watch?v=14aoImF...

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Margo

Thank you Heloise, will watch this evening.

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Many hypothyoid patients develop digestive problems.

This is a link and Nottingham University have done research on this 'gum'. Only availabe from Chios in Greece and it is used in many medicinal meds as well as in chewing gum.

Medicinal use

Mastic shrub — Pistacia lentiscus

Mastic has been used as a medicine since antiquity and is still used in traditional folk medicine of the Middle East. In ancient Greece, it was given as a remedy for snakebite, and, in India and Persia, it was used to fill dental cavities. The first-century Greek physician Pedanius Dioscorides mentions the healing properties of mastic in his book De Materia Medica. Hippocrates wrote that the mastic is good for prevention of digestive problems and colds, and Galenus suggested that mastic was useful for bronchitis and for improving the condition of the blood. In medieval times, mastic was highly valued by sultans' harems as a breath freshener and a tooth whitener.

Mastic contains antioxidants and also has antibacterial and antifungal properties.[4] A Nottingham University study published in the New England Journal of Medicine claims that mastic can cure peptic ulcers by killing Helicobacter pylori bacteria.[5] Other studies have indicated that mastic has only a modest ability to eliminate H. pylori but have also suggested that refining mastic by removing the polymer poly-β-myrcene may make the active components, particularly isomasticadienolic acid, more available and effective.[6] Mastic may also have some value in preventing tooth decay[7] and gingivitis[8] as chewing mastic reduces oral bacteria.

One study found that high consumption of Chios mastic powder results in decreased levels of total serum cholesterol, LDL, total cholesterol/HDL ratio, lipoprotein (a), apolipoprotein A-1, apolipoprotein B, ALT, AST, and GGT.[9] Mastic oil is widely used in the preparation of ointments for skin disorders and afflictions.[citation needed] It is also used in the manufacture of adhesive bandages.[citation needed]

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Margo in reply toshaws

This is amazing info' Shaws. I had seen very briefly that Dr. Mercola was recommending the mastic shrub. Was going to look at all the information later.

Thank you so much, I will certainly be investigating this.

Astonishing, the consultant that did the procedure, mentioned anti biotics or just leaving it. When I mentioned maybe it could be due to thyroid problems he sneered. When I mentioned natural remedies, his eyes rolled to the ceiling. Then he just happened to mention that he works for a pharmaceutical company. Quelle surprise!! I didn't say too much more as he was doing the procedure and may have taken the opportunity to give me a slight bash in the giblets!!

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shawsAdministrator in reply toMargo

I have used these - they don't have a particular flavour are hard but soften in your mouth.

amazon.co.uk/Small-Mastic-M...

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Margo in reply toshaws

Hello Shaws,

I took the antibiotics, and am on the last Ompremazole tomorrow.

The Mastic gum has just arrived from Greece, I got them on the site you recommended. However, I have 4 packets of the stuff and don't know what to do with it.!! Would you mind telling me how the best way to take it in your opinion?

Thank you

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shawsAdministrator in reply toMargo

I just use it like chewing gum. I put a few pearls in my mouth then after a while spit it out.

Extract:-

Originally a liquid, mastic is sun-dried into drops of hard brittle translucent resin. When chewed, the resin softens and becomes a bright white and opaque gum. The flavor is bitter at first, but after some chewing, it releases a refreshing, slightly pine or cedar-like flavor.

The word mastic is derived from the Greek verb, μαστιχειν "to gnash the teeth", which is the source of the English word masticate.[1] The word mastic is a synonym for gum in many languages.

uk.ask.com/wiki/Mastic_%28p...

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Margo in reply toshaws

Thanks for this info' Shaws. I am chewing as I type, how many times would you recommend to have a chew per day?

(bit wary about chewing, reminds me of last year when I chewed a toffee and it removed a filling. It cost me £50 to replace!!)

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shawsAdministrator in reply toMargo

I don't know the recommended number of chews I just hope you don't lose any more fillings.

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Just for your information, this is from STTM re acid.

stopthethyroidmadness.com/s...

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Margo

Brilliant thanks again Shaws. I have a lot of reading and video watching to do tonight.

What a great site this is!

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galathea

Don't mess about with helicobactor pylori, if you don't get rid of it with a course of two antibiotics combined, it can easily lead to stomach ulcers. Helicobactor p gets a hold when you don't have enough stomach acid.

My mum didnT know she had hp, or a stomach ulcer... The ulcer bled this year and she threw up 2 litres of blood. ( in my hallway). And was rushed off to hospital in an ambulance. The doc said normally only a 10% survival rate if people collapse alone.

Mum now fine, they cauterised the ulcer and she s now taking betaine hcl o increase acid. However her doc thinks she should suppress avid and I am in the middle of writing to her....

Good luck!

G

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Maryam_1

yes - do you hair loss?

i have hair loos and H-pylori and hashimoto

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Margo

No I don't recall hair loss Maryam_1

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