Pneumonia jab v COVID 19 ?

[quanglewangle]

Hello everyone

At the instigation of our GP surgery we had a Pneumonia jab.

My questions are (perhaps belatedly but now very relevant) -

What was the purpose of the jab?

How likely is it that this may assist us in the event of contracting COVID 19 ??????

[checkmypulse]

Just to be clear I am not a medical person, but in relation to your second question the many various 'experts' I have heard on the media have all been unanimous in that this Pneumonia jab from GP will have no impact on the progression of the virus in someone who is infected as it is a different strain. Not good news I know.

[Maggimunro in reply to checkmypulse]

Apparently the pneumonia caused by covid19 is viral not bacterial. I suppose the thought could be that it may stop a secondary bacterial infection. Don’t forget the pneumonia jab can help stop sepsis and meningitis too.

[Desanthony]

The pneumonia jab will protect you from the pneumonia going around at the time the jab was brought out is how I understand it and probably some that they envisaged would be going around. Same as the flu jab its the ones they know and some of the mutations they think might come up in that year. Obviously more complicated than just that. No one envisaged this so there is, as yet, no vaccination against Covid 19 and any vaccinations we have had will have no impact on this virus.

[10gingercats in reply to Desanthony]

I was told by GP practice the pneu. jab was a one time,for life, protection?

[Desanthony in reply to 10gingercats]

Don't know about that. I think the last time I had the pneumonia injection was about 2015 same time as my wife and her Respiratory consultant said that people such as her should have one every 10 years due to their lung conditions. However, a new vaccination may have been found that does last for life which will be brilliant. No help with Covid 19 though or with any form of Viral pneumonia which my Aunt died of a few years ago despite having had the pneumonia vaccination.

[Billblue in reply to 10gingercats]

Correct comment

[BobD Volunteer]

No help at all as it is for bacterial pneumonia not viral. Nice try though. I had it when I reached the age too.

[jeanjeannie50]

The pneumonia jab won't help at all with the with the Covid19 virus.

Johns Hopkins University has sent this detailed note on avoiding the

contagion:

* The virus is not a living organism, but a protein molecule (DNA) covered

by a protective layer of lipid (fat), which, when absorbed by the cells of

the ocular, nasal or buccal mucosa, changes their genetic code. (mutation)

and convert them into aggressor and multiplier cells.

* Since the virus is not a living organism but a protein molecule, it is

not killed, but decays on its own. The disintegration time depends on the

temperature, humidity and type of material where it lies.

* The virus is very fragile; the only thing that protects it is a thin

outer layer of fat. That is why any soap or detergent is the best remedy,

because the foam CUTS the FAT (that is why you have to rub so much: for 20

seconds or more, to make a lot of foam). By dissolving the fat layer, the

protein molecule disperses and breaks down on its own.

* HEAT melts fat; this is why it is so good to use water above 25 degrees

Celsius for washing hands, clothes and everything. In addition, hot water

makes more foam and that makes it even more useful.

* Alcohol or any mixture with alcohol over 65% DISSOLVES ANY FAT,

especially the external lipid layer of the virus.

* Any mix with 1 part bleach and 5 parts water directly dissolves the

protein, breaks it down from the inside.

* Oxygenated water helps long after soap, alcohol and chlorine, because

peroxide dissolves the virus protein, but you have to use it pure and it

hurts your skin.

* NO BACTERICIDE SERVES. The virus is not a living organism like bacteria;

they cannot kill what is not alive with antibiotics, but quickly

disintegrate its structure with everything said.

* NEVER shake used or unused clothing, sheets or cloth. While it is glued

to a porous surface, it is very inert and disintegrates only between 3 hours

(fabric and porous), 4 hours (copper, because it is naturally antiseptic;

and wood, because it removes all the moisture and does not let it peel off

and disintegrates). ), 24 hours (cardboard), 42 hours (metal) and 72 hours

(plastic). But if you shake it or use a feather duster, the virus molecules

float in the air for up to 3 hours, and can lodge in your nose.

* The virus molecules remain very stable in external cold, or artificial as

air conditioners in houses and cars. They also need moisture to stay

stable, and especially darkness. Therefore, dehumidified, dry, warm and

bright environments will degrade it faster.

* UV LIGHT on any object that may contain it breaks down the virus protein.

For example, to disinfect and reuse a mask is perfect. Be careful, it also

breaks down collagen (which is protein) in the skin, eventually causing

wrinkles and skin cancer.

* The virus CANNOT go through healthy skin.

* Vinegar is NOT useful because it does not break down the protective layer

of fat.

* NO SPIRITS, NOR VODKA, serve. The strongest vodka is 40% alcohol, and

you need 65%.

* LISTERINE IF IT SERVES! It is 65% alcohol.

* The more confined the space, the more concentration of the virus there

can be. The more open or naturally ventilated, the less.

* This is super said, but you have to wash your hands before and after

touching mucosa, food, locks, knobs, switches, remote control, cell phone,

watches, computers, desks, TV, etc. And when using the bathroom.

* You have to HUMIDIFY HANDS DRY from so much washing them, because the

molecules can hide in the micro cracks. The thicker the moisturizer, the

better.

* Also keep your NAILS SHORT so that the virus does not hide there.

[rc-k in reply to jeanjeannie50]

Jeanjeannie that is far and away the most helpful and informative description of the virus and how to avoid and combat it that I have seen anywhere. I will be sharing it with everyone I know. Thank you, more than I can say, for posting it.

[Visitingcat in reply to jeanjeannie50]

Fantastic information, thank you so much 😊

[Deb1838]

I am not a medic but I did hear from a dr on the radio that it won’t stop you getting pneumonia but it will help with the second stage of the pneumonia. Not sure if that is true or not, so much information about and how much is true, I have no idea 💡

[Peileen]

Hi quanglewangle there are over 100 types of pneumonia apparently and the pneumonia jab protects from 28, according to Google. I had a terrible chest infection in the summer requiring several courses of antibiotics and a chest Xray to check on heart and lungs. It did clear eventually and I am now wondering if I hadn't had the pneumonia jab if things might have got a lot worse. So many elderly people and younger of course succumb to pneumonia after chest infections that getting the jab is only common sense. Of course Covid 19 isn't of the influenza family so that jab won't help. It does what they call a some kind of storm on the vital organs. I don't know if its effects on the lungs are similar to pneumonia or as I've heard said they get dried out. An interesting post giving us lots to think about.

[quanglewangle]

Hi

Thanks to everyone for the replies.

So - while the jab won't affect COVID19 it may help with other bacterial and secondary infections.

Meanwhile we should all continue to be sensible and follow the latest advice.

Sadly our GP has the bug so because we are in the middle of a lot of sheep country there is no surgery for miles in any direction..... Isolation squared!!!

Good luck everyone - I'm off to see what comes out of the freezer today - lucky dip!!!

Xoxox