For What It Is Worth Here Is and Article and Video from Dr. Michael Greger, who advocates a vegan diet

[MikeUSNA64]

How Effective Is Chemotherapy for Colon, Lung, Breast, and Prostate Cancers?Written By Michael Greger M.D. FACLM • July 14, 2022 

The article includes data on the effectiveness of chemotherapy in treating prostate cancer

nutritionfacts.org/2022/07/...

[jazj]

I've read his book and blog and switched to Vegan after diagnosis with occasional fish. After consulting with two Integrative Medicine specialists at two of the top centers for cancer research in the country, they both said the same thing. They do not recommend a Vegan diet but it can't hurt. I loosened my diet a little more to have the occasional chicken breast, or even a hamburger once in a blue moon. What's life worth if you don't "live a little." They said keeping your BMI under 25, exercising regularly, lowering stress, and avoiding alcohol as much as possible were the top 4 things you can do that studies show make a significant difference. As far as diet, any well balanced diet that has a high portion of fruits and vegetables, especially cruciferous vegetables and small portions of animal protein is wise while trying to avoid fatty animal protein and high-fat dairy.

Personally I also avoid high choline dietary sources (eggs).

If you're not doing vegan for animal morality or environmental reasons, I think it's too extreme for the little benefit.

[dhccpa in reply to jazj]

Sounds reasonable. How about days where you only consume fatty meats, fatty dairy, or both, but still keep caloric consumption within caloric expenditure?

[jazj in reply to dhccpa]

That's a good question I have no idea the answer. That also is similar to the question, what if I stop taking my supplements for 3 days leading up to my PSA test to make sure they aren't masking my PSA - do I risk cancer resurging in those 3 days? No one has a clue and I don't think there's even a way you could prove these things one way or the other.

I've got some antioxidants lying around that I don't take daily, like Curcumin and Pomegranate extract. If I plan on having a couple glasses of wine, or a hamburger, I take the antioxidants before and after as good measure. No idea if it makes a difference but there's no big downside I can think of in doing it.

[dhccpa in reply to jazj]

Yep. I have the same daily issues with consistency.

[rocket09]

You have to be a sceptic on his writings as he is big into the animal rights movement and seems to want to put an end to eating animals. Balanced diet is best , only my opinion.

[dhccpa in reply to rocket09]

You have a point, but everyone defines "balanced diet" differently, and everyone thinks they are on one.

[jazj in reply to rocket09]

Ah ha! I didn't know that but it all makes sense. My gut kept telling me when I read his stuff, gee this guy is knowledgeable but he kind of really seems to have a hidden agenda as he definitely is cherry picking the studies he references.

[DonUSNA73]

Hi Mike! Sorry we have to meet this way sir, but good to see an alum aboard. I'm a follower of Dr. Greger so thanks for sharing.

[j-o-h-n in reply to DonUSNA73]

Your first post since you joined on March 17, 2016. Did they finally let you out of the brig?

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Friday 07/15/2022 5:12 PM DST

[DonUSNA73 in reply to j-o-h-n]

Not the brig...a very long patrol. Submerged.

[j-o-h-n in reply to DonUSNA73]

Tin can............ Hmmmmmm dive dive dive.......

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Friday 07/15/2022 9:56 PM DST

[j-o-h-n in reply to DonUSNA73]

Okay here it comes:

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ALL INFO IS VOLUNTARY, but it helps us help you and helps us too. When you respond, you should post your response in the bio section on your home page for your use and for other members’ reference.

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THANK YOU AND KEEP POSTING!!!

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Friday 07/15/2022 5:15 PM DST

[DonUSNA73 in reply to j-o-h-n]

Added. I think.

[j-o-h-n in reply to DonUSNA73]

Good enough!!! Thanks.........

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Friday 07/15/2022 9:58 PM DST

[MikeUSNA64 in reply to DonUSNA73]

Best wishes - started adding tomato paste to my post morning workout drink

[DonUSNA73 in reply to MikeUSNA64]

Good idea! I’ve started adding beans and barley to my post morning workout overnight oats.

[j-o-h-n]

How do you know if someone's vegan? Don't worry they'll fucking tell you.....

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Friday 07/15/2022 5:25 PM DST

[Cooolone in reply to j-o-h-n]

😂😂😂

[Teacherdude72]

In the early 1990's there was an article in a popular Canadian magazine about a dentist going all vegan mostly seaweed based that was Cancer free until he got tired of the dues.Life magazine has a similar article a few years later. Got to wonder?

[Cooolone]

And all those studies that have failed to show any dietary efficacy in remediation of cancer cells must be wrong then! Lmao!

I have yet to find a legitimate study, with controls, that can exhibit any efficacy via diet, in controlling cancer!

Steve Jobs tried that too...

Remember how little anything that happens to mice, or in a petri dish, translate to actual reality once in a human body!

Regards!